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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    oh man there was this british reporter on NPR monday that was basically saying that the isreali's had infiltrated Iran's nuclear program by setting up straw companies that would supply iran with materials. Then they would be able to know their operations and, after a while, start supplying them with faulty equipment so as to slow the process. Also that they had assassinated several iranian nuclear scientists.

    The whole thing sounded like something I would read on some bat shit internet site I couldn't believe an actual reporter was saying this stuff.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Langly wrote: »
    oh man there was this british reporter on NPR monday that was basically saying that the isreali's had infiltrated Iran's nuclear program by setting up straw companies that would supply iran with materials. Then they would be able to know their operations and, after a while, start supplying them with faulty equipment so as to slow the process. Also that they had assassinated several iranian nuclear scientists.

    The whole thing sounded like something I would read on some bat shit internet site I couldn't believe an actual reporter was saying this stuff.

    I think reporters need to realize that when you report infiltrations of an enemy nation's nuclear program on national radio, it kinda ruins the secret

    that is pretty cool though

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    SyphonBrueSyphonBrue Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Langly wrote: »
    oh man there was this british reporter on NPR monday that was basically saying that the isreali's had infiltrated Iran's nuclear program by setting up straw companies that would supply iran with materials. Then they would be able to know their operations and, after a while, start supplying them with faulty equipment so as to slow the process. Also that they had assassinated several iranian nuclear scientists.

    The whole thing sounded like something I would read on some bat shit internet site I couldn't believe an actual reporter was saying this stuff.

    Aside from the whole assassinating people thing, that sounds pretty awesome and smart

    which of course means no government could have pulled it off

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    No the assassinations make it sound more awesome

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I would just like to say that I think we should get away from portraying the insectoid aliens in video games as the bad guys

    I mean, just once I'd like to meet some giant insects that wanted to be allies, and not eat my brains to feed their hive-maiden

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    SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    Langly wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
    Meiz wrote: »
    Buffons, the lot of you.

    heh

    this is pretty much priceless

    if kovak hadn't given me such a good sig line i would take this one

    Suppose we have a computer game, with linear game play, and we drop a black character into it. What is the probability that the black person will be interpreted as a racial stereotype?

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    If you were a space adventurer and you met a friendly race of bug people

    do you think you could find a female bug person sufficiently sexy to fuck?

    edit: this was to Olivaw of course though anyone else may tackle it if they want

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    If you were a space adventurer and you met a friendly race of bug people

    do you think you could find a female bug person sufficiently sexy to fuck?

    edit: this was to Olivaw of course though anyone else may tackle it if they want

    It depends.

    Are we going the "Somewhat realistic, giant mantis woman from Buffy" route or the "Why does a humanoid female reptile need breasts"-esque route

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    SyphonBrueSyphonBrue Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    this is suddenly getting uncomfortably close to furry talk

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    jwalkjwalk Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Is the black guy a zombie? Because it's always OK to shoot zombies.

    Always.

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    SyphonBrue wrote: »
    this is suddenly getting uncomfortably close to furry talk

    We're called "exoies" I'll have you know

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Furu wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    If you were a space adventurer and you met a friendly race of bug people

    do you think you could find a female bug person sufficiently sexy to fuck?

    edit: this was to Olivaw of course though anyone else may tackle it if they want

    It depends.

    Are we going the "Somewhat realistic, giant mantis woman from Buffy" route or the "Why does a humanoid female reptile need breasts"-esque route

    Whichever way you wanna swing it, bro

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    GrathGrath I'm a much happier person these days Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    If capcom was being racist, there would be a couple white non zombies running away while everyone was infected, or possibly a bunch of nameless white people that were infected and instead of shooting them you're tryinc to cure them. That and you know the huge amount of other games they've made this being the FIRST one that there are zombies that are black. Theres also the whole thing about how they show a white girl get infected and that writer is trying to claim THAT is racist. He's only saying it because its a woman and not a man. That makes the writer of that article sexist.

    The racist people are the people who look at this game and think "OH THATS RACIST" as opposed to the rest of the population that goes "oh cool a resident evil game set in africa"
    It goes back to GTA and the whole "KILL THE HATIANS" thing. Some groups cry more about possible bits of racism than others. There were no complaints from any other group that had a gang in the game. They all had similar outcomes (IE killing them brutally)

    Racism sucks, I don't consider myself racist in the least. I didn't see a problem with GTA:SA when I was killing white dudes as CJ from Grove street, infact nobody did except for maybe crazy KKK members who's brains don't work quite right.

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited February 2009
    they should have just made them all white africans, that would have been a much better solution

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    MeizMeiz Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    A version of RE where you're fighting albinos.

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    so what brought about this particular strip?

    this RE5/racism business has been out in the open for a while now

    Did they get an early copy?

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    If you were a space adventurer and you met a friendly race of bug people

    do you think you could find a female bug person sufficiently sexy to fuck?

    edit: this was to Olivaw of course though anyone else may tackle it if they want

    Depends

    Is she black?

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    If you were a space adventurer and you met a friendly race of bug people

    do you think you could find a female bug person sufficiently sexy to fuck?

    edit: this was to Olivaw of course though anyone else may tackle it if they want

    It depends.

    Are we going the "Somewhat realistic, giant mantis woman from Buffy" route or the "Why does a humanoid female reptile need breasts"-esque route

    Whichever way you wanna swing it, bro

    I am compelled to bring this gag to its conclusion but the bile rises every time I try to hit the Submit Reply button

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    If you were a space adventurer and you met a friendly race of bug people

    do you think you could find a female bug person sufficiently sexy to fuck?

    edit: this was to Olivaw of course though anyone else may tackle it if they want

    Depends

    Is she black?

    Nah man she's green or some shit

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    If you were a space adventurer and you met a friendly race of bug people

    do you think you could find a female bug person sufficiently sexy to fuck?

    edit: this was to Olivaw of course though anyone else may tackle it if they want

    Depends

    Is she black?

    Nah man she's green or some shit

    Hmmm

    No

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    SyphonBrueSyphonBrue Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    If you were a space adventurer and you met a friendly race of bug people

    do you think you could find a female bug person sufficiently sexy to fuck?

    edit: this was to Olivaw of course though anyone else may tackle it if they want

    Depends

    Is she black?

    Nah man she's green or some shit

    green bugpeople looooooooove lemon-lime soda and baked chitin

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    If you were a space adventurer and you met a friendly race of bug people

    do you think you could find a female bug person sufficiently sexy to fuck?

    edit: this was to Olivaw of course though anyone else may tackle it if they want

    Depends

    Is she black?

    Nah man she's green or some shit

    Hmmm

    No

    Ok she can change colors and be whatever shade you want her to be, racist

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    SyphonBrueSyphonBrue Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    red bugpeople drive like this

    but green bugpeople drive like this

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    SicariiSicarii The Roose is Loose Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Meiz wrote: »
    Aren't there still tribes in Africa though? I mean, last I checked, the discovery channel hasn't run out of material that introduces one to their culture and way of life.

    Hate to go all PC here, but since we are having this discussion, its generally not considered acceptable to refer to African groups as tribes. It's an antiquated colonial mentality that's inaccurate.

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    DagrabbitDagrabbit Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    RE5 a game where you spend the majority of your time (in single-player) playing as a white guy shooting black people in the head. There's a fictional justification (they're zombies in Africa!), but it's still racially insensitive and in bad taste. Were the people making it racist? I can't say, I don't know their intentions. But for an outside observer, it's not exactly crazy talk to think that the game is racist.

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    TunnelRunnerTunnelRunner Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    It's a Capcom game, though, meaning it was Made in Japan™.
    So just remember that all the white people are actually japanese people.

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    Volucrisus AedriusVolucrisus Aedrius Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Hoooohhhhly shit that Louis Armstrong thing.

    I don't, I don't even know how to feel about that.

    Goddamnit, Japan.

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    Nitram250Nitram250 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    My question is "why would capcom even think this would fly in America."

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    SyphonBrueSyphonBrue Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Dagrabbit wrote: »
    RE5 a game where you spend the majority of your time (in single-player) playing as a white guy shooting black people in the head. There's a fictional justification (they're zombies in Africa!), but it's still racially insensitive and in bad taste. Were the people making it racist? I can't say, I don't know their intentions. But for an outside observer, it's not exactly crazy talk to think that the game is racist.

    No, the racially insensitive thing is you thinking it's racially insensitive, instead of just one person shooting other people; not one white person shooting black people. Do you think it's racist when you play the black guy in San Andreas and shoot lots of white people?

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I love this comic so much.

    Also, so much for overcoming our racial boundaries. A zombie is a zombie is a zombie. An unstable region is an unstable region is an unstable region.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    I'm just confused why people are expecting a game developed in Japan to be racially sensitive.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4QB7cHdVfs

    hahahahaha

    I love how this guy
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    is the only person in the entire video that seems to be thinking what we all are

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    SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I mean, just having a white dude kill some black dudes isn't really racism by itself, especially if those dudes are also zombies.

    But having black dudes running around in grass skirts and shit? That's pretty fucking racist.

    I haven't been keeping up with the game though, all I know is from the comments in here.

    Basically, when is the newspost getting posted?!

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    Zetetic ElenchZetetic Elench Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    SyphonBrue wrote: »
    Dagrabbit wrote: »
    RE5 a game where you spend the majority of your time (in single-player) playing as a white guy shooting black people in the head. There's a fictional justification (they're zombies in Africa!), but it's still racially insensitive and in bad taste. Were the people making it racist? I can't say, I don't know their intentions. But for an outside observer, it's not exactly crazy talk to think that the game is racist.

    No, the racially insensitive thing is you thinking it's racially insensitive, instead of just one person shooting other people; not one white person shooting black people. Do you think it's racist when you play the black guy in San Andreas and shoot lots of white people?

    Yeah, see, this comes up a lot. The "NO, JOHN. YOU ARE THE RACISTS!" argument just doesn't really work, because simply recognizing that "white dude comes to Africa and shoots lots and lots of violent black people that are portrayed as other" plugs into some historically racist images is not itself racist.

    You and I know that the black dudes are violent and portrayed as other because they're fucking zombies, but that doesn't make it racist to point out that it resonates with imagery that has HISTORICALLY been produced from racist sentiment.

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    SyphonBrueSyphonBrue Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    SyphonBrue wrote: »
    Dagrabbit wrote: »
    RE5 a game where you spend the majority of your time (in single-player) playing as a white guy shooting black people in the head. There's a fictional justification (they're zombies in Africa!), but it's still racially insensitive and in bad taste. Were the people making it racist? I can't say, I don't know their intentions. But for an outside observer, it's not exactly crazy talk to think that the game is racist.

    No, the racially insensitive thing is you thinking it's racially insensitive, instead of just one person shooting other people; not one white person shooting black people. Do you think it's racist when you play the black guy in San Andreas and shoot lots of white people?

    Yeah, see, this comes up a lot. The "NO, JOHN. YOU ARE THE RACISTS!" argument just doesn't really work, because simply recognizing that "white dude comes to Africa and shoots lots and lots of violent black people that are portrayed as other" plugs into some historically racist images is not itself racist.

    You and I know that the black dudes are violent and portrayed as other because they're fucking zombies, but that doesn't make it racist to point out that it resonates with imagery that has HISTORICALLY been produced from racist sentiment.

    The first step to getting past racism is to stop thinking everything is racist.

    You can shoot millions of white people and it's perfectly okay, but the second someone goes to Africa it's OMIGODRACIST?

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    SicariiSicarii The Roose is Loose Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I don't think you understand the sentiment he is arguing. Also newspost was not as interesting as I hoped it would be.

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    So your argument is that the best way to not be racist is to completely ignore the possibility that other people might be racist.

    Man, you are eleven kinds of stupid.

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    DavoidDavoid Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    If we don't ever look at a problem, it ceases to exist? I guess?

    I don't understand the logic there

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    SyphonBrueSyphonBrue Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    So your argument is that the best way to not be racist is to completely ignore the possibility that other people might be racist.

    Man, you are eleven kinds of stupid.

    That's....that's not what I said at all.

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    SicariiSicarii The Roose is Loose Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Every videogame should be a white guy shooting black people so that we....as a society can get over it.

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    SyphonBrueSyphonBrue Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Sicarii wrote: »
    Every videogame should be a white guy shooting black people so that we....as a society can get over it.

    This is also not what I said.

    What I said is that it's stupid to automatically think that just because it's a white guy shooting some black guys that it's racist.

    But please, keep strawmanning.

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