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Kerbob97
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First off - No it is not totally true to the PnP game.
But it is fun as hell. I totally play FPS with a different strategy now. There are a ton of combinations available, not to mention to win, you have to learn to play as a team. If there is any interest, I will post some stuff from the beta site, and some screenshots and such.
The Team Fortress 2 conversation made me realize that Shadowrun is really closer to that than the Counterstrike comparisons that have been thrown around. You really have to figure out a char type and a load out for that character that fits your style. Once you do that the game is a blast.
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Click on the Shadowrun Link - looks much nicer than the beta!
But it is fun as hell. I totally play FPS with a different strategy now. There are a ton of combinations available, not to mention to win, you have to learn to play as a team. If there is any interest, I will post some stuff from the beta site, and some screenshots and such.
The Team Fortress 2 conversation made me realize that Shadowrun is really closer to that than the Counterstrike comparisons that have been thrown around. You really have to figure out a char type and a load out for that character that fits your style. Once you do that the game is a blast.
***Achievements added***
Shadowrun Achievements
New footage
G4 Footage
Click on the Shadowrun Link - looks much nicer than the beta!
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and damn but I am going through withdrawl pangs. I keep trying to teleport through walls and calling for a tree.
While I'd have preferred that this were an RPG/Action RPG, or at least named differently, it does by all accounts look promising. Retail purchase level of interesting I'm not sure of, but when the MP demo comes I'll be on it darn fast indeed.
Anything that differentiates it further from CS is welcome, too.
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Lots of people feel this way. But, look at it this way...
If this game is a hit and people like the setting, you can expect to see more games using the license on the way. If anything, fans of Shadowrun should really be supportive of this project or else nobody is going to gamble on the franchise again.
So let's hope for the best! Shadowrun on the Genesis was simply awesome.
Warframe: TheBaconDwarf
Cs= same thing over and over and over and over and over and o....
Shadowrun reminds me of the really good days of Team Fortress.
TFC=Shadowrun
Rocket jump= teleport or glider but oh so much better.
classes with distinct advantages= yes please
unique fast gameplay
turret = summon/strangle
medic med station= tree of life
spy insta kill = katana w telport
scout speed= wired reflexes
heavy weapon guy = troll (but damn if the troll isn't more fun)
sniper = sniper or rifle with enhanced vision
but it is much better in my opinion.
Plus from everything I have heard competitive PC and consolers are pretty much equal.
I'm jazzed.
Warframe: TheBaconDwarf
Not an RPG what a tragedy etc. Hopefully this does well enough that a true cyberpunk RPG is made again.
The gliding seems pretty cool. I was very skeptical of this game since I tend to dislike most games designed from the ground up to be an "FPS" (especially an online one) but this seems more interesting the more I see of it.
I wonder if wire reflexes will function as they do in the RPG or if they'll just let you move faster. I missed it if there's any footage showing this.
At first, I was really upset that there was no Storyline. But then I started playing the game. There is definitely a learning curve, but once you determine which character is the best fit for you, and the appropriate loadout for your style. The game rocks!
I started off as an elf, (similar to a scout- fast, self healing, skinny and tall) they can use any weapon but they take performance hits for the heavier stuff. Great for rushing in and snagging the flag, but still a capable head to head character.
Then I switched to the dwarf. (reminds me of the demo guy) Was not my cup of tea, but in the right hands deadly.
Then I tried human. Great all around character. Again in the right hands - deadly.
Finally, I tried the big, slow troll. And fell in love! When you get the right loadout down you are virtually unstoppable one on one and can take on 2-3 other characters at a time. And when you get the minigun sped up and firing. *shiver* :twisted: "heeeeeeeerrrree little elfies, I have a present for you!"
damn. I can not wait. I honestly would trade my halo3 beta for some more time playing Shadowrun.
You have to totally change your gameplay style to succeed in this game. New thoughts, strategies etc.
Plus teamwork is an absolute must!
If it's reasonably priced, I'll pick it up.
Oh Im not debating the quality or playtime of these maps.
but I cant justify 70$ Canadian for 9 maps and Multiplayer only.
MacHalo
changed to :
Halo "Not 3rd person" horrors!
and then:
Halo2 "Arbiter? Big Monkeys! WTF?"
and then:
Halo RTS "Who what now?"
and:
Halo3 "shield balls and more apes??"
Halo was an unknown back in 99. It has changed and grown and now it is one of the biggest names and powers in the industry.
I went into a gaming shop the other day and asked about Shadowrun and if they had any pnp games. The young kids were all O_o and finally the manger (mid 30s) said "Nope - D&D, Warhammer 40k, and LOTR"
Give this thing an honest unbiased shot and you should be pleasantly suprised.
Pretty much what I intend to do. I'll be darned if I'm going to let a title make me miss out on a fun game.
Come to think of it, a Splinter-Cell-esque SR FPS would be rather neat. You could even have other runners in the game, with the ability to take control of their senses to get an idea of what they're doing and remotely send commands.
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Warframe: TheBaconDwarf
Basically it's similar to what you are talking about, when dead you can ghost behind the living with a third person view that you have control over. You can then give them info and watch their backs as it were.
At first I thought "Cheater!" but then it's kind of cool: everyone yells watch out behind you! and the player is looking around trying to figure out wtf!!?!? Keeps you involved in the game while you are waiting for the next level. Plus it helps for the rez feature too.
Hey that's pretty neat. Great way to cut down on the boring time between being killed and respawning.
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One of the coolest potential features to me is Summon.
Basically you summon a demon to either guard an area, or to attack a target.
It wasn't perfect in the beta, but from what I understand it is much better now. I have seen a summoned tear through a team that wasn't playing together. Took out 2 elves and a troll. Started with an elf and while it was pounding on the elf, the troll and other elf came out to help with the flag. They are all shooting at the summon and hitting each other. The summon finished the elf, killed the troll, and the elf just started running for it. The summon took off after the elf and beat the bejeezus out of it. Meanwhile, I am narrating this to the rest of the team while hiding next to a tree of life regaining health from near death.
In final the summon should be a force to be reckoned with.
(That is; do you die before even knowing who shot you?) No news on demo-date?
edit: Or to rephrase the question less specifically, how much is there in the way of cyber/bioware options? Are there phys-ads and their abilities as well? What about magic?
I mean, I know there's races, but beyond that, I have no fucking clue how much of the games character creation stuff is in the game.
tech options - smartlink (extra scope, id targets, no friendly fire), enhanced vision, wired reflexes, antimagic generators, glider
weapons - pistol (think Halo1 - no scope unless you have smart link, but used correctly... :twisted:)
SMG, rifle, shotgun, katana, minigun, sniper rifle, rocket launcher
so far as I know no character look customization, but you have an insane amount of flexibility btw your choices of tech, magic, race, and weapons.
I'm hoping since it's a Microsoft developed developed title it'll be $50 like the rest of them. If not, even I'm going to have a problem justifying $60 for nine maps. That's just a bit much for me to swallow, and I've been one of the big supporters of the game around here.
I beat Halo2 the first day I had it. Since then I really only played through in coop a few times. Other than that it was allllllllll MP.
So if they spent more time on making the MP tighter, I am really ok with it I think.
And the thing with the MP maps is that due to teleport they are 100x more complex. I was still figuring out new strategies up until the last day using glider or teleport.
"S is like TFC" vs "SR is like TFC", which makes more sense?
There are some really good looking ones in there. Brother from another Mother? lol
This game is highly dependant on Teamwork. Occasionally, you can pull off a 1 man win. But when you add in rez, it gets extremely near impossible as you can manage to take a guy out, and his teammate rezzes him and you get wiped pretty easily. I have actually seen some pretty dominating Mob tactics that are pretty impressive.
Basically you rush in with 4-5 elves, and a troll, all equipped with rez and smartlink (can't shoot your teammates) and are pretty much unstoppable. One char goes down, and he pops right back up.
Shades of zombie fighting almost. scawwy!
At any rate, when team play is so important/required does it make the game unplayable for casual type play?
Do the metas (elves, dwarfs, trolls) have their natural augmented vision? (Lowlight/nightvision for the skinnies, thermo for Stumpy and Brumby)
And I don't plan on playing this. Mainly because my connection is shitty and unless there's bots available (intelligent ones) I CAN'T play. I will however purchase this game.
The bots? Gameplay wise - firefights they are pretty good, they have levels from easy to expert/insane, and you have a pretty well integrated comm system that they actually follow pretty well. When lag was insane, I would play local with bots and it was a tough but fun game.
They will try and block the flag from being scored, but in the beta, they were ... Ok about it, but didn't know all the trick scoring methods. But at the same time, they would score the flag pretty well.
At the same time, there are times I would rather have played with bots than humans when they have no idea about teamwork. At least the bots generally try and rez you.
Also, I think they said the bots were being improved for retail as well. I would say that the bots were better than the PDZ bots.
I never played the original Shadowrun (Nor knew about it, forgive me) so I won't have any of the 'OMG, they killed Shadowrun' problems when playing.
I'll rent it first though, if MP turns out to be good/solid I'll buy it.. for Vista or 360, I'll see which version I like the most.
The Shadowrun beta was a blast. I went in with a negitive opinion of the game and all I can say is give it a chance. My relationship with this game was the exact opposite of what it was with Gears. Gears grabbed me hard initially but as I learned it I got frustrated with the lack of depth, the host advantage, and the way games began to feel repetitve. With Shadowrun there is a learning curve but once you learn it the game has almost endless depth. I played 2 maps for 3 or 4 hours a day and if the beta was up now I would be playing it.
The game is often referred to as a FPS with RPG elements but I think it makes more sense to call it an FPS with RTS elements. You have money that you get each round, manage, and collect with kills, ressurects, ect. Then you progress through a sort of tech tree buying upgrades to create your build. Like an RTS alot of the game is weighing building to be effective now or saving resouces for later. Like an RTS you buy all of this stuff and then when the game is over you buy it again. The buying is a huge part of the game. Then you add in the fact that you can give money to teammates and things get really cool. Its awesome when a team picthes in and one or two guys are just super powered in the first round.
A few of my favorite Shadowrun moments:
Porting into a room with 3 guys and proceding to get all nightcrawler on thier ass with quick ports and shotgun blasts. End result two dead by my gun and one dead by friendly fire.
Being chased in a basement by an elf, I run to a dead end, throw a grenade off the wall in front of me as it bounces back at me I teleport through the ceiling and kill the elf.
Step out side and a sniper headshots me. I play as a dwarf and one of their advantages is that headshots only take half my health. I throw a tree and heal up. I call out sniper and someone else spots him for me. When you hit up on your d-pad it calls out what you see to your team automatically. He is in the sniper tower about 200 yards away. I run back out throw a grenade and then use Gust to launch it homemade-genade-launcher-style into his nest. One dead sniper.
Hahaha, that sounds pretty great.
I really want this game.