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Stewart vs Colbert

MisanthropeicMisanthropeic __BANNED USERS regular
edited May 2007 in Debate and/or Discourse
Who is funnier?

On their personalities alone, I would say Stewart is smarter and funnier. But taking their shows as a whole, I would say Colbert is funnier because his show is all about him, rather than Stewart's show which is 50/50 himself and his corospondants.

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    WyndhamPriceWyndhamPrice Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    The main difference between Stewart and Colbert is that Stewart is being himself on the Daily Show and Colbert is playing Stephen Colbert, a persona that he has developed specifically for the Colbert Report. This allows him to be a bit more obnoxious and "big" and sometimes funnier than Stewart's quick and snippy remarks.

    Honestley they're equal to me.

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    PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    the shows are completely different

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    MisanthropeicMisanthropeic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Podly wrote: »
    the shows are completely different

    They're different, but completely different?

    Come on now

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    Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Colbert's interviews are far superior. And he does more of them.

    I love them both, but if forced to choose, I'd stick with Colbert.

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    Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I think they're both equally funny, but as someone else mentioned, Colbert getting the whole show to himself makes for a funnier program overall than TDS, as it's often held back by unfunny bits (although, sometimes, they're fucking gold)

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    Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator mod
    edited May 2007
    I find Colbert's show a little more dynamic and entertaining, but because he's stuck "in character" I feel that his capacity to really interview guests in an interesting manner is diminished.

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    RoanthRoanth Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Stewart's primary advantage is his ability to attract bigger names for interviews. Otherwise I think in terms of content, interview skills, and quality of material Colbert is far superior. Plus Americone Dream is fucking delicious

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I treat it as essentially the same show. As in, an hour long Daily Show.

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    Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Irond Will wrote: »
    I find Colbert's show a little more dynamic and entertaining, but because he's stuck "in character" I feel that his capacity to really interview guests in an interesting manner is diminished.

    His only in-character bias is that he's right. Stewart has some good interviews, but on the whole, I have to say that Colbert's satirical style trounces Stewart's... non-satirical style.

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Podly wrote: »
    the shows are completely different

    They're different, but completely different?

    Come on now

    They are. First, look at the premise. Stewart is just a parody of a typical news show, with an anti-Bush slant (fuck if I can remember if it's "left" or "right", but I think it's "left"). Colbert is more a parody of the talking heads, the shows that discuss politics for the most part, and he plays a parody of those hosts on the show.

    Stewart does the quick, snippy one-liners, while delivering an actual report.
    Colbert can do a huge long set-up for a big joke (The Word, anyone?).

    There's more, I'm just too damn lazy to type.
    All in all, though, I like Stewart's style of comedy more, because it's very similar to my own. Quick, short, and mixed in with the serious parts.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Irond Will wrote: »
    I find Colbert's show a little more dynamic and entertaining, but because he's stuck "in character" I feel that his capacity to really interview guests in an interesting manner is diminished.

    His only in-character bias is that he's right. Stewart has some good interviews, but on the whole, I have to say that Colbert's satirical style trounces Stewart's... non-satirical style.

    It's kind of hard, because occasionally, he will almost break character by laughing, and it's different than when Jon laughs.

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    PhonehandPhonehand Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I find it hard to watch the Daily Show because I can't stand the fact that his mindless audience will pretty much clap at anything that comes out of his mouth.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Phonehand wrote: »
    I find it hard to watch the Daily Show because I can't stand the fact that his mindless audience will pretty much clap at anything that comes out of his mouth.

    Then why do you watch the Colbert Report?

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    PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    To be fair, it usually is pretty funny.

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    tulkastulkas Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I love them both equally.

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    PhonehandPhonehand Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Phonehand wrote: »
    I find it hard to watch the Daily Show because I can't stand the fact that his mindless audience will pretty much clap at anything that comes out of his mouth.

    Then why do you watch the Colbert Report?

    They are two very different shows. I find the premise and nature of TCR very funny, whereas TDS just usually comes off as pretentious.

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    ProtoProto Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Colbert's interviews are far superior. And he does more of them.

    I love them both, but if forced to choose, I'd stick with Colbert.

    How does he do more of them? Don't they both do one per show?

    I like them both. I find Stewart better on average though.

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Wasn't there a point when it was just Colbert, Carrel, and one other person reporting, before they hired Rob Corddry?

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    ProtoProto Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Phonehand wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Phonehand wrote: »
    I find it hard to watch the Daily Show because I can't stand the fact that his mindless audience will pretty much clap at anything that comes out of his mouth.

    Then why do you watch the Colbert Report?

    They are two very different shows. I find the premise and nature of TCR very funny, whereas TDS just usually comes off as pretentious.

    Pretentious? What?

    Stewart regularly makes fun of the show as being a stupid fake news program.

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    zakkielzakkiel Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I find Colbert's show a little more dynamic and entertaining, but because he's stuck "in character" I feel that his capacity to really interview guests in an interesting manner is diminished.
    Let's be honest though: how often does Stewart ask a question that is actually insightful or interesting? Even the humor in the interviews is thin. And there's the times he just gushes over a guest, which is a bit embarrassing to watch.

    Overall the Daily Show has sunk quite a lot since they lost most of their top newscasters, to the point where I often don't bother watching. Colbert delivers consistently. I've never yet seen a "Better know a ____" that wasn't hilarious. So while I think they started out on roughly the same plane, Colbert has taken off and Stewart has sunk.

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    PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    No, TDS can be pretentious. He's right. But only rarely.

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    ProtoProto Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Wiggin wrote: »
    Wasn't there a point when it was just Colbert, Carrel, and one other person reporting, before they hired Rob Corddry?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_show#Correspondents



    I miss Even Stevphen

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    PhonehandPhonehand Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Proto wrote: »
    Phonehand wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Phonehand wrote: »
    I find it hard to watch the Daily Show because I can't stand the fact that his mindless audience will pretty much clap at anything that comes out of his mouth.

    Then why do you watch the Colbert Report?

    They are two very different shows. I find the premise and nature of TCR very funny, whereas TDS just usually comes off as pretentious.

    Pretentious? What?

    Stewart regularly makes fun of the show as being a stupid fake news program.

    Well I would say it certainly used to be. It has changed considerably over the years. Just because he still says that doesn't make it entirely true.

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    ElJeffeElJeffe Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited May 2007
    Phonehand wrote: »
    I find it hard to watch the Daily Show because I can't stand the fact that his mindless audience will pretty much clap at anything that comes out of his mouth.

    The only thing that bugs me about the audience is their propensity for clapping or cheering disproportionately to the merit of an actual joke or comment, just because it happens to be along the lines of "Bush/Pubbies suck". Yes, Audience, we get it, you're liberal. You do not need to highlight this point at every turn.

    On balance, I like TDS a little better, and I think Jon's interviews are much, much better, because he has more freedom to ask decent and dynamic questions without the risk of breaking character. Most of Colbert's interviews seem more like monologues by the interviewee with occasional breaks for Colbert to make witty comments. It feels forced. Granted, I haven't had a chance to watch either show in a few months, so maybe this is no longer the case.

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    zakkiel wrote: »
    I find Colbert's show a little more dynamic and entertaining, but because he's stuck "in character" I feel that his capacity to really interview guests in an interesting manner is diminished.
    Let's be honest though: how often does Stewart ask a question that is actually insightful or interesting? Even the humor in the interviews is thin. And there's the times he just gushes over a guest, which is a bit embarrassing to watch.

    Overall the Daily Show has sunk quite a lot since they lost most of their top newscasters, to the point where I often don't bother watching. Colbert delivers consistently. I've never yet seen a "Better know a ____" that wasn't hilarious. So while I think they started out on roughly the same plane, Colbert has taken off and Stewart has sunk.

    The best was when he went to a convention, walked up to representatives, shook their hands, got an introduction, and just said "You're better known." Filled in like 20 spots on the map in about 2 minutes.

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I find Stewart's interviews usually meh, with a few "holy hell"s thrown in.

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I prefer Jon Stewart to Stephen Colbert but I prefer the Colbert Report to the Daily Show

    Mostly because I wish the Daily Show was thirty minutes of just the headlines. Seriously, the opening is the best part of the show, the rest is hit or miss

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    slugabedslugabed Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    No brainer. Colbert is much funnier than Martha Stewart. I don't think she really means to be funny most of the time.

    Huh what? Oh...

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    TrikoTriko Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I find Stewart obnoxious from time to time; the correspondent sections of the Daily Show is by far my favorite, especially with John Oliver and Aasiv Mandvi! I enjoy the Colbert Report more though, and just bought a Colbert/Stewart '08 bumper sticker for my car to display my tackiness :P

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Proto wrote: »
    Wiggin wrote: »
    Wasn't there a point when it was just Colbert, Carrel, and one other person reporting, before they hired Rob Corddry?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_show#Correspondents



    I miss Even Stevphen

    I remember that. There was an Even Stevphen on the first one I watched. The only part I remember was something about truth in news. Colbert's example was to deliver a fake report about a psychotic clown with a hook for a hand hiding in the woods by Cabin 12.
    Cut to Steve on his cell going, "...by Cabin 12. That's what the news said! Is that anywhere near us?"

    I laughed until I cried.

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    PhonehandPhonehand Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Phonehand wrote: »
    I find it hard to watch the Daily Show because I can't stand the fact that his mindless audience will pretty much clap at anything that comes out of his mouth.

    The only thing that bugs me about the audience is their propensity for clapping or cheering disproportionately to the merit of an actual joke or comment, just because it happens to be along the lines of "Bush/Pubbies suck". Yes, Audience, we get it, you're liberal. You do not need to highlight this point at every turn.

    On balance, I like TDS a little better, and I think Jon's interviews are much, much better, because he has more freedom to ask decent and dynamic questions without the risk of breaking character. Most of Colbert's interviews seem more like monologues by the interviewee with occasional breaks for Colbert to make witty comments. It feels forced. Granted, I haven't had a chance to watch either show in a few months, so maybe this is no longer the case.

    I think this is what I really wanted to get at. I really like John Stewart and I think he's really funny but I feel like he has to pander to his audience sometimes. You know, part of the reason that SNL really started getting terrible was that they wouldn't let up off the Bush jokes. I feel that a lot of comdey suffers because of it. It's like you know, we get it already. It's cheap. I have to change the channel everytime I see a promo for that new Lil Bush cartoon on Comedy Central.

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    MuragoMurago Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I've met people who really think colbert is actually a hardcore republican and agree with this conservative point of view. At the same time, these 3 people totally hate stewart. I think this is funny, so i haven't told them about his "persona".

    Anyway, i think they both have their most awesome moments of comedy; i personally really love the fake reporters they have. Anyone who has a specialist on black people is thumbs up in my comedy book.

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    MisanthropeicMisanthropeic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    that lil bush cartoon show has a shelf-life of about 2 years

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    ShintoShinto __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    If the Daily Show would dump Jason Jones and Rob Riggle and fill their spots with more John Hodgeman, John Oliver, Asiff Mandvi and Dmetri Martin it would really rock.

    I have to say though, after a period of slumping a bit the last few weeks have been really top notch.

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    SnorkSnork word Jamaica Plain, MARegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    The huge set-ups on 'The Word' are my favourite part of the Colbert Report, and one of my favourite things ever.

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    PhonehandPhonehand Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    And you know.

    Freaking Lewis Black.

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    Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Proto wrote: »
    Colbert's interviews are far superior. And he does more of them.

    How does he do more of them? Don't they both do one per show?

    Colbert packs them in with Better Know a District type things and a fuckton of mid-show interviews, like his recent one with Salman Rushdie. He always has one traditional interview at the end of the show, but he probably averages like, 1.7-1.8 interviews a show.
    Shinto wrote: »
    If the Daily Show would dump Jason Jones and Rob Riggle and fill their spots with more John Hodgeman, John Oliver, Asiff Mandvi and Dmetri Martin it would really rock.

    I have to say though, after a period of slumping a bit the last few weeks have been really top notch.

    Man, you don't like Jason Jones? His feature on gay Arabic translators was awesome as hell.

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Shinto wrote: »
    If the Daily Show would dump Jason Jones and Rob Riggle and fill their spots with more John Hodgeman, John Oliver, Asiff Mandvi and Dmetri Martin it would really rock.

    I have to say though, after a period of slumping a bit the last few weeks have been really top notch.

    Dmetri Martin is just a funny person. Daily Show, stand-up, it's all hilarious.

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    ElJeffeElJeffe Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited May 2007
    Phonehand wrote: »
    I think this is what I really wanted to get at. I really like John Stewart and I think he's really funny but I feel like he has to pander to his audience sometimes. You know, part of the reason that SNL really started getting terrible was that they wouldn't let up off the Bush jokes. I feel that a lot of comdey suffers because of it. It's like you know, we get it already. It's cheap. I have to change the channel everytime I see a promo for that new Lil Bush cartoon on Comedy Central.

    I don't really mind Stewart himself, and I don't think he really panders much. I think he just sort of speaks his mind, and he's pretty clearly not a huge fan of Bush or the GOP. That's cool. It really is just the audience that bugs me. It's like during a SOTU address when the president mentions some pet cause for his party and every single member of that party stands up and cheers and claps and hollers so that everybody in attendance knows that he is a loyal member of <insert party here>.

    It's just obnoxious. But I don't fault Stewart.

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    KaleidoscopeJonesKaleidoscopeJones Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I like them both, but Colbert wins my vote overall. I've loved him since strangers with candy was still on the air. Also that dvd (not sure what it was or if it was a show or anything) that had him trying to lobotomize a guy with a power drill.

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