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Jesus fucking christ that Dennis Miller guy is scary, his complete ignorance of the world is mind blowing and speaking of which, someone ought to fucking blow his mind out.
With a gun, to clarify.
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I remember him appearing on Letterman shortly after 9/11 saying they should just bomb the entire "turrist" region to get rid of them - to an applauding audience, I believe.
I took him less seriously after that.
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I still remember him fondly from Weekend Update on SNL way back in the day. Seriously though, 9/11 drove him completely crazy.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
I still remember him fondly from Weekend Update on SNL way back in the day. Seriously though, 9/11 drove him completely crazy.
Okay, so it isn't just me? The guy used to actually be funny, not just crazy?
EDIT: And fuck, I cannot imagine anything less funny than the 1/2 Hour News Hour. It's so not funny that it's almost funny. Almost.
He used to be pretty damn funny. Dennis Miller: Black and White was hysterical. Now... god... now... I think I'd rather watch Sinbad.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
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Quick question, who is on the repeat of the Colbert Report right now?
Colbert's humor gets old for me pretty quickly. Okay, he's sarcastic and egotistical, I get it. Jon Stewart is more witty and entertaining, I think.
But then, I could say the same about Stewart. Play clip > make funny expression > repeat. I get it.
I think that, overall, they're both fairly obvious, typical American comedians. They both have moments of sheer gold, too.
That's true. I guess where I see Stewart as being better is in his off-the-cuff comments, like during interviews. Sometimes he says pretty witty things that clearly weren't planned. Colbert's off-the-cuff comments are usually "BLAH BLAH I'M IGNORANT AND EGOTISTICAL BLAH"
Colbert's humor gets old for me pretty quickly. Okay, he's sarcastic and egotistical, I get it. Jon Stewart is more witty and entertaining, I think.
But then, I could say the same about Stewart. Play clip > make funny expression > repeat. I get it.
I think that, overall, they're both fairly obvious, typical American comedians. They both have moments of sheer gold, too.
That's true. I guess where I see Stewart as being better is in his off-the-cuff comments, like during interviews. Sometimes he says pretty witty things that clearly weren't planned. Colbert's off-the-cuff comments are usually "BLAH BLAH I'M IGNORANT AND EGOTISTICAL BLAH"
I find him to have plenty of witty asides, in the interviews. That's where he drops his personality the most.
Colbert's humor gets old for me pretty quickly. Okay, he's sarcastic and egotistical, I get it. Jon Stewart is more witty and entertaining, I think.
But then, I could say the same about Stewart. Play clip > make funny expression > repeat. I get it.
I think that, overall, they're both fairly obvious, typical American comedians. They both have moments of sheer gold, too.
That's true. I guess where I see Stewart as being better is in his off-the-cuff comments, like during interviews. Sometimes he says pretty witty things that clearly weren't planned. Colbert's off-the-cuff comments are usually "BLAH BLAH I'M IGNORANT AND EGOTISTICAL BLAH"
I find him to have plenty of witty asides, in the interviews. That's where he drops his personality the most.
I find him to have plenty of witty asides, in the interviews. That's where he drops his personality the most.
I probably don't watch the show regularly enough to know, really.
The interview on O'reillys show was brilliant. The fact that you can hear Oreillys crew cracking up in the background makes it even better
particularly when double entendres like asking Bill if he starts off the day with a "Pat Robertson protien shake" and answering Bills question of "what are you doing?" with "I'm doing you Bill!" sail right over Oreillys head.
I like Stewart too but here it's an aples and oranges situation. Colberts character allowed him more leeway in that interview than Stewart would have had. Colbert uses the Aikido of punditry, he starts off by agreeing with his opponent then he pushes it in an unexpected direction. This is a totally different type of verbal sparring than Orielly is accustomed to. His show is more straightforward thrust and parry, trying to nail Colbert was like trying to nail jello to a wall.
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Yes,... yes, I agree. It's totally unfair that sober you gets into trouble for things that drunk you did.
I don't like the Crossfire one, because he kind of stoops to their level too much. The one with him on O'Reilly is very good because Stewart honestly addresses some good questions regarding his influence on his audience's politics.
I don't like the Crossfire one, because he kind of stoops to their level too much. The one with him on O'Reilly is very good because Stewart honestly addresses some good questions regarding his influence on his audience's politics.
Yeah, I could see what you're saying there. He did manage to control his temper a little better and just get into the banter with O'Reilly. I'd say part of it might actually be that O'Reilly, while being a self-righteous asshole, is at least not a self-righteous asshole in that annoying way that makes you want to actually punch somebody. I think by the end of the Crossfire bit it was probably all Stewart could do not to jump Carlson. I mean, he takes annoying to that whole new whiny level where you just want to hurt him.
Maybe it's just that bowtie.
Yeah, they were both being pricks to him. I think he controlled his temper pretty well given how they kept badgering him to be more funny. O'Reilly was much more civil.
He used to be pretty damn funny. Dennis Miller: Black and White was hysterical. Now... god... now... I think I'd rather watch Dane Cook.
So I fixed it.
Actually, that is much, much better. Thanks!
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
Yeah, they were both being pricks to him. I think he controlled his temper pretty well given how they kept badgering him to be more funny. O'Reilly was much more civil.
Yeah, O'Reilly treated him more like a serious interview guest. The whole appearance was better all around.
And Sinbad used to be funny as shit. I don't know if he still is...did he like, die or something? Or was that just his career?
Actually, there was a rumor of his death, but he's alive. When I was working at ASU I saw him at the start of the school year because his daughter goes there. That dude is freaking huge!!
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
Mo Rocca went nowhere that I know of, but he left YEARS ago.
He occasionally appears on Keith Olbermann and VH1 specials.
He's also on iron chef occasionally as a judge. I think he judged rachal ray vs. giada.
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I read the Rolling Stone joint interview with Stewart and Colbert, and it's very interesting to read how divergent their upbringings were, given how closely associated they are now.
The main thing when looking at their comedy is this: Stewart has no formal training. Rather, he gained all his experience just working comedy clubs, getting better over time, etc. etc.
Colbert, meanwhile, is a fully trained improv actor; it's an entirely different field and style.
At the end of the day, I choose not to pick, since I appreciate them both in slightly different ways...that, and it would feel like Sophie's Choice or something, and I'm just not ready for a decision so severe.
I still remember him fondly from Weekend Update on SNL way back in the day. Seriously though, 9/11 drove him completely crazy.
He was already well on the road to douchebaggery before 9/11. I think he found that career options as a wordy comedian and shitty actor paled before the amount of money and engagements available to a professional right-wing sneerer.
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Man, there is a lot of Jon Stewart goodness on youtube.
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Man, there is a lot of Jon Stewart goodness on youtube.
Really? Maybe there was. Before Google bought Youtube there were pages upon pages of recent clips from the Daily Show/Colbert Report. Now it's tough to find any ones that I haven't seen before.
I still remember him fondly from Weekend Update on SNL way back in the day. Seriously though, 9/11 drove him completely crazy.
He was already well on the road to douchebaggery before 9/11. I think he found that career options as a wordy comedian and shitty actor paled before the amount of money and engagements available to a professional right-wing sneerer.
Norm McDonald got canned for being hilarious pissing off the wrong people.
Colin Quinn got canned for sucking and getting bad ratings. I once saw Nick DiPaolo opening for Norm McDonald for a comedy act, and Nick tried to blame the face that Tough Crowd got canned on the fact that he was politically incorrect. Then he recycled some jokes that I've seen on "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air," recycled some more jokes I've seen from "Conan," complimented himself for how edgy he was, then insulted the audience for not laughing.
Edit: I now realize you guys were talking about Dennis Miller, but the point still stands.
Man, there is a lot of Jon Stewart goodness on youtube.
Really? Maybe there was. Before Google bought Youtube there were pages upon pages of recent clips from the Daily Show/Colbert Report. Now it's tough to find any ones that I haven't seen before.
I just checked out the Stewart O'reilly interview. Not bad, I think I preferred crossfire for pure entertainment, but I did like how he refused to be drawn with a lot of the comments. I thought Colbert's Orielly interview was pretty good.
Never heard of O'reilly before. Seems like a tool though.
Any other good Stewart/Colbert interviews worth checking out?
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I'm just watching some of these Bill O'Reilly Vids... This man is awesome. Almost as funny as Colbert and Stewart. Is he seriously watched widely in the States?
I just checked out the Stewart O'reilly interview. Not bad, I think I preferred crossfire for pure entertainment, but I did like how he refused to be drawn with a lot of the comments. I thought Colbert's Orielly interview was pretty good.
Never heard of O'reilly before. Seems like a tool though.
Any other good Stewart/Colbert interviews worth checking out?
You're kidding? O'Reilly isn't just a tool, he's an insane (I do not use this term loosely) right-wing nutjob mouthpiece. He's also the inspiration for Colbert's stage identity. O'Reilly actually did an interview with him on the Report.
Scroll down to the controversy and criticism part. He's also big on bullying his guests.
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And to answer your question, yes, O'Reilly is actually pretty popular in a lot of places. Fox News is very good at pandering to middle America and preying on their fears. Despite the fact that nothing at Fox News is about journalism. If you ever get the chance, watch the documentary 'Outfoxed'. It's disturbing and part of the reason so many of our citizens are grossly misinformed about a great many things.
Well, this is a tangent, but I thought Norm McDonald got canned for pissing off his boss?
Not that LM doesn't derserve it or anything, but being a dick to ones boss is generally not the best road to job security.
Norm got canned by the President of NBC in a completely unprecendented move, against the wishes of Lorne Michaels.
Norm MacDonald: When the people here asked me to do the show, I've got to say, I felt kind of weird. I don't know if you remember this, but I used to actually be on this show. I used to do the "Weekend Update" news routine, you remember that? That's where I did the make-believe news jokes. That was me, you know? So then, a year and a half ago, I had sort of a disagreement with the management at NBC. I wanted to keep my job. Right? And they felt the exact opposite. They fired me because they said that I wasn't funny. Now, with most jobs, I could have had a hell of a lawsuit on my hands for that, but see, this is a comedy show. So, they got me. But, now, this is the weird part, it's only a year and a half later, and now, they ask me to host the show. So I wondered, how did I go from being not funny enough to be even allowed in the building, to being so funny that I'm now hosting the show? How did I suddenly get so goddamn funny?! It was inexplicable to me, because, let's face it, a year and a half is not enough time for a dude to learn how to be funny! Then it occurred to me, I haven't gotten funnier, the show has gotten really bad! So, yeah, I'm funny compared to, you know, what you'll see later. Okay, so let's recap, the bad news is: I'm still not funny. The good news is: The show blows! Alright, folks, we've got a great show for you tonight! Dr. Dre, Snoop Doggie Dogg and Eminem are here. We'll be right back!
I just checked out the Stewart O'reilly interview. Not bad, I think I preferred crossfire for pure entertainment, but I did like how he refused to be drawn with a lot of the comments. I thought Colbert's Orielly interview was pretty good.
Never heard of O'reilly before. Seems like a tool though.
Any other good Stewart/Colbert interviews worth checking out?
You're kidding? O'Reilly isn't just a tool, he's an insane (I do not use this term loosely) right-wing nutjob mouthpiece. He's also the inspiration for Colbert's stage identity. O'Reilly actually did an interview with him on the Report.
Scroll down to the controversy and criticism part. He's also big on bullying his guests.
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And to answer your question, yes, O'Reilly is actually pretty popular in a lot of places. Fox News is very good at pandering to middle America and preying on their fears. Despite the fact that nothing at Fox News is about journalism. If you ever get the chance, watch the documentary 'Outfoxed'. It's disturbing and part of the reason so many of our citizens are grossly misinformed about a great many things.
Wow... I just watched this segment about his interview with the son of a 9/11 victim. I just... wow. I mean, he didnt even address his points... He just started having a go at him. How is it possible for a journalist to do that and still have a job? In any other country, he'd have been gone.
I love the Colbert Report, and he's really created a good persona for himself. But for some reason I find myself laughing at John Stewtarts remarks more and more.
Well, this is a tangent, but I thought Norm McDonald got canned for pissing off his boss?
Not that LM doesn't derserve it or anything, but being a dick to ones boss is generally not the best road to job security.
Norm got canned by the President of NBC in a completely unprecendented move, against the wishes of Lorne Michaels.
Norm MacDonald: When the people here asked me to do the show, I've got to say, I felt kind of weird. I don't know if you remember this, but I used to actually be on this show. I used to do the "Weekend Update" news routine, you remember that? That's where I did the make-believe news jokes. That was me, you know? So then, a year and a half ago, I had sort of a disagreement with the management at NBC. I wanted to keep my job. Right? And they felt the exact opposite. They fired me because they said that I wasn't funny. Now, with most jobs, I could have had a hell of a lawsuit on my hands for that, but see, this is a comedy show. So, they got me. But, now, this is the weird part, it's only a year and a half later, and now, they ask me to host the show. So I wondered, how did I go from being not funny enough to be even allowed in the building, to being so funny that I'm now hosting the show? How did I suddenly get so goddamn funny?! It was inexplicable to me, because, let's face it, a year and a half is not enough time for a dude to learn how to be funny! Then it occurred to me, I haven't gotten funnier, the show has gotten really bad! So, yeah, I'm funny compared to, you know, what you'll see later. Okay, so let's recap, the bad news is: I'm still not funny. The good news is: The show blows! Alright, folks, we've got a great show for you tonight! Dr. Dre, Snoop Doggie Dogg and Eminem are here. We'll be right back!
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I remember watching that. Truly phenomenal intro, and I can still hear Norm's biting sarcasm.
Stewart is more the intulectuals, and colbert for the ones that want some nice silly fun. The Daily Shows humor has some information to it and you get more out of the interviews. Colbert is just lets make a joke about what we can. And his interviews are worthless most the time.
Thumbs way up for Norm McDonald. I've seen him do stand up twice and it was amazing. One of the shows I went to he got into a bit about animal porn. When he asked if anybody had ever seen any, my roommate was the only one to raise his hand. That started a 10 minute discussion of farm animal porn. Fantastic. Even better when my roommates girlfriend came back from the bathroom halfway through and realized what they were talking about.
Stewart is more the intulectuals, and colbert for the ones that want some nice silly fun. The Daily Shows humor has some information to it and you get more out of the interviews. Colbert is just lets make a joke about what we can. And his interviews are worthless most the time.
You are so fucking wrong that it's sad. Colbert's satire is absolute genius. But I can see how you miss the allusions in it. Most people who don't pay attention to the real news usually do. Stewart is very poor at this, he usually has to twist the story to make a cheap joke, like condensing speeches into soundbites that are irrelevant to the actual story.
Stewart is more the intulectuals, and colbert for the ones that want some nice silly fun. The Daily Shows humor has some information to it and you get more out of the interviews. Colbert is just lets make a joke about what we can. And his interviews are worthless most the time.
You are so fucking wrong that it's sad. Colbert's satire is absolute genius. But I can see how you miss the allusions in it. Most people who don't pay attention to the real news usually do. Stewart is very poor at this, he usually has to twist the story to make a cheap joke, like condensing speeches into soundbites that are irrelevant to the actual story.
I watch the nightly news every night. And i get all of his jokes, maybe its his delivery that dampens there effect. And Colbert takes things out of context just has much as Stewart. They both have there merits, but i pay attention to the interviews more then anything else, and when it comes to that Stewart takes the cake.
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I took him less seriously after that.
He used to be pretty damn funny. Dennis Miller: Black and White was hysterical. Now... god... now... I think I'd rather watch Sinbad.
He looks terribly familiar.
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I find him to have plenty of witty asides, in the interviews. That's where he drops his personality the most.
"Yes, I want goverment to fail so that I can have funny material, what the hell is wrong with you?"
- "Proving once again the deadliest animal of all ... is the Zoo Keeper" - Philip J Fry
The interview on O'reillys show was brilliant. The fact that you can hear Oreillys crew cracking up in the background makes it even better
particularly when double entendres like asking Bill if he starts off the day with a "Pat Robertson protien shake" and answering Bills question of "what are you doing?" with "I'm doing you Bill!" sail right over Oreillys head.
I like Stewart too but here it's an aples and oranges situation. Colberts character allowed him more leeway in that interview than Stewart would have had. Colbert uses the Aikido of punditry, he starts off by agreeing with his opponent then he pushes it in an unexpected direction. This is a totally different type of verbal sparring than Orielly is accustomed to. His show is more straightforward thrust and parry, trying to nail Colbert was like trying to nail jello to a wall.
Colbert gets credit for the balls to do what he did at the White House Press Dinner.
But Stewart basically brought down Crossfire.
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I wish all journalists destroyed a TV show.
This is how I first heard about Jon Stewart. I was extremely impressed, it got me into the Daily Show.
You speak as if Sinbad isn't funny.
So I fixed it.
Yeah, they were both being pricks to him. I think he controlled his temper pretty well given how they kept badgering him to be more funny. O'Reilly was much more civil.
Actually, that is much, much better. Thanks!
Actually, there was a rumor of his death, but he's alive. When I was working at ASU I saw him at the start of the school year because his daughter goes there. That dude is freaking huge!!
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I read the Rolling Stone joint interview with Stewart and Colbert, and it's very interesting to read how divergent their upbringings were, given how closely associated they are now.
The main thing when looking at their comedy is this: Stewart has no formal training. Rather, he gained all his experience just working comedy clubs, getting better over time, etc. etc.
Colbert, meanwhile, is a fully trained improv actor; it's an entirely different field and style.
At the end of the day, I choose not to pick, since I appreciate them both in slightly different ways...that, and it would feel like Sophie's Choice or something, and I'm just not ready for a decision so severe.
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Really? Maybe there was. Before Google bought Youtube there were pages upon pages of recent clips from the Daily Show/Colbert Report. Now it's tough to find any ones that I haven't seen before.
EDIT: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NpqgWW0z7vM
I found that, though, after digging. The mustaches are annoying.
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Norm McDonald got canned for being hilarious pissing off the wrong people.
Colin Quinn got canned for sucking and getting bad ratings. I once saw Nick DiPaolo opening for Norm McDonald for a comedy act, and Nick tried to blame the face that Tough Crowd got canned on the fact that he was politically incorrect. Then he recycled some jokes that I've seen on "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air," recycled some more jokes I've seen from "Conan," complimented himself for how edgy he was, then insulted the audience for not laughing.
Edit: I now realize you guys were talking about Dennis Miller, but the point still stands.
Viacom took down my video where Stephen Colbert was on Law & Order.
FYI, Viacom doesn't own the rights to law & order.
Never heard of O'reilly before. Seems like a tool though.
Any other good Stewart/Colbert interviews worth checking out?
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I'm just watching some of these Bill O'Reilly Vids... This man is awesome. Almost as funny as Colbert and Stewart. Is he seriously watched widely in the States?
Not that LM doesn't derserve it or anything, but being a dick to ones boss is generally not the best road to job security.
You're kidding? O'Reilly isn't just a tool, he's an insane (I do not use this term loosely) right-wing nutjob mouthpiece. He's also the inspiration for Colbert's stage identity. O'Reilly actually did an interview with him on the Report.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_O%27Reilly_%28commentator%29
Scroll down to the controversy and criticism part. He's also big on bullying his guests.
-edit-
And to answer your question, yes, O'Reilly is actually pretty popular in a lot of places. Fox News is very good at pandering to middle America and preying on their fears. Despite the fact that nothing at Fox News is about journalism. If you ever get the chance, watch the documentary 'Outfoxed'. It's disturbing and part of the reason so many of our citizens are grossly misinformed about a great many things.
Here's some clips and such from it.
http://www.outfoxed.org/Clips.php
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
Norm got canned by the President of NBC in a completely unprecendented move, against the wishes of Lorne Michaels.
Norm MacDonald: When the people here asked me to do the show, I've got to say, I felt kind of weird. I don't know if you remember this, but I used to actually be on this show. I used to do the "Weekend Update" news routine, you remember that? That's where I did the make-believe news jokes. That was me, you know? So then, a year and a half ago, I had sort of a disagreement with the management at NBC. I wanted to keep my job. Right? And they felt the exact opposite. They fired me because they said that I wasn't funny. Now, with most jobs, I could have had a hell of a lawsuit on my hands for that, but see, this is a comedy show. So, they got me. But, now, this is the weird part, it's only a year and a half later, and now, they ask me to host the show. So I wondered, how did I go from being not funny enough to be even allowed in the building, to being so funny that I'm now hosting the show? How did I suddenly get so goddamn funny?! It was inexplicable to me, because, let's face it, a year and a half is not enough time for a dude to learn how to be funny! Then it occurred to me, I haven't gotten funnier, the show has gotten really bad! So, yeah, I'm funny compared to, you know, what you'll see later. Okay, so let's recap, the bad news is: I'm still not funny. The good news is: The show blows! Alright, folks, we've got a great show for you tonight! Dr. Dre, Snoop Doggie Dogg and Eminem are here. We'll be right back!
Wow... I just watched this segment about his interview with the son of a 9/11 victim. I just... wow. I mean, he didnt even address his points... He just started having a go at him. How is it possible for a journalist to do that and still have a job? In any other country, he'd have been gone.
I remember watching that. Truly phenomenal intro, and I can still hear Norm's biting sarcasm.
I watch the nightly news every night. And i get all of his jokes, maybe its his delivery that dampens there effect. And Colbert takes things out of context just has much as Stewart. They both have there merits, but i pay attention to the interviews more then anything else, and when it comes to that Stewart takes the cake.