[Hesher] Goatvomit and Gasmasks

Adrenaline · May 2009

Note: Most excellent OP copied from the previous thread, made entirely by METAzrael. Hopefully that's cool.

HESHER
n.

1. See also Butt Rocker.

2. Any form of rock music and / or listener, sporting a mullet, eye makeup, hairspray, tight acid washed jeans and hi-top Reeboks.

Don't ask me - the title comes from the fey will of the mods above.

Welcome to the Grand Battalion Nekrokreuz Sigma Save the Avanc Bakesale: Convocation at Tain Hollow (aka let's talk about cool music and satan and stuff). You may have entered a hesher, but you'll leave on a screaming motorcycle driven by wings of liquid fire. From hell.

Thank you for joining us. At this time, we'll have a field report from top fairies Sirenia:

Over the seven seals of fate
A thousand miles away
Your destiny awaits
Over the seven seals of fate
Your free will lies asleep
Behind the fortune's gates

At the market in town just for two coins a yellow little bird my father bought for me.
But here comes the cat
and eats the bird
that in the market
my father bought for me.

At the market in town
there was a dog
that bit the cat
that eats the bird
my father bought for me.
But here comes the water
and wets the dog
that bites the cat
that eats the bird
that in the market
my father bought for me.

At the market in town
there was a horse
that spilled the water
that wet the dog
that bit the cat
that eat the bird

But here comes the man
that whips the horse
that spills the water
that wets the dog
that bites the cat
that eats the bird
my father bought for me.

At the market in town just for two coins a yellow little bird my father bought for me.
But the angel of death
visits the man
that whipped the horse
that spilled the water
that wet the dog
that bit the cat
that eat the bird
that in the market
my father bought for me.

Thank you for that, Sirenia. You have truly blessed the world with your ethereal creations.

HELLELUJAH - 2008 IS DEAD

It was a year of evil, with a plentiful black metal harvest offset by severe funeral blights. Here are our top album picks for the year for you squabble over and pick apart.

META'S AWESOME TOP 20 THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE EVER
1. Lifelover - Konkurs
2. Gloomy Grim - Under the Spell of the Unlight
3. Mar de Grises - Draining the Waterheart
4. Cynic - Traced in Air
5. Septic Flesh - Communion
6. Hail of Bullets - ...Of Frost and War
7. Necrovation - Breed Deadness Blood
8. October Falls - The Womb of Primordial Nature
9. Satyricon - Age of Nero
10. Darkthrone - Dark Thrones and Black Flags
11. Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
12. Dark Fortress - Eidolon
13. Tyr - Land
14. Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
15. Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
16. Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
17. Draugnim - Northwind's Ire
18. Helheim - Kaoskult
19. Isole - Bliss of Solitude
20. Vacant Coffin - Sewer Skullpture

AUTO AND THE LIST OF DOO...KRIEG!
The Top 20 Metal Albums of 2008
01. Darkthrone (No) - Dark Thrones and Black Flags
02. Enslaved (No) - Vertebrae
03. Pharaoh (US) - Be Gone
04. Hammers of Misfortune (US) - Fields/Church of Broken Glass
05. Gojira (Fr) - The Way of All Flesh
06. Obtest (Lt) - Gyvybes Medis
07. Blood of the Black Owl (US) - A Feral Spirit
08. Lifelover (Se) - Konkurs
09. Hail of Bullets (Nl) - Of Frost and War debut of the year
10. Horn (De) - Naturkraft
11. Amon Amarth (Se) - Twilight of the Thunder God
12. Stormlord (It) - Mare Nostrum
13. Cynic (US) - Traced in Air
14. Falconer (Se) - Among Beggars and Thieves
15. Paradox (De) - Electrify
16. Týr (Fo) - Land
17. Horna (Fi) - Sanojesi Äärelle
18. Anthem (Jp) - Black Empire
19. Marshall Law (UK) - Razorhead
20. Blood Ceremony (US) - Blood Ceremony

ADRENALINE'S TIP TOP TIPPETY TWENTY
01. Hail of Bullets - ...Of Frost and War
02. Cynic - Traced In Air
03. Outcast - Self-Injected Reality
04. Pharaoh - Be Gone
05. Septic Flesh - Communion
06. Ophiolatry - Transmutation
07. Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
08. Lifelover - Konkurs
09. Darkthrone - Dark Thrones and Black Flags
10. Horn - Naturkraft
11. The Faceless - Planetary Duality
12. Necroblaspheme - Destination: Nulle Part
13. Enslaved - Vertebrae
14. Severed Savior - Servile Insurrection
15. Blood of the Black Owl - A Feral Spirit
16. Den Saakaldte - Øl, Mørke og Depresjon
17. Pyramids - Pyramids
18. Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
19. Janvs - Vega
20. Aeon of Horus - Embodiment of Darkness and Light

FRANK HATES YOU AND DOESN'T EVEN POST HERE
01. Satyricon - The Age of Nero
02. Darkthrone - Dark Thrones and Black Flags
03. Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
04. Stormwarrior - Heading Northe
05. October Falls - The Womb of Primordial Nature
06. Pest - Rest in Morbid Darkness
07. The Ugly - Slaves to the Decay
08. Enslaved - Vertebrae
09. Eluveitie - Slania
10. Gravdal - Sadist

Narian likes cuddling, chocolate pudding, and is our reigning hesher
01. Keep of Kalessin (No) - Kolossus
02. Metallica (US) - Death Magnetic
03. Stormwarrior (Ge) - Heading Northe
04. Kalmah (Fi) - For the Revolution
05. Dark Empire (US) - Humanity Dethroned
06. Amon Amarth (Se) - Twilight of the Thunder God
07. Firewind (Gr) - The Premonition
08. Ayreon (Nl) - 01011001
09. Testament (US) - The Formation of Damnnation
10. Gojira (Fr) - The Way of All Flesh

MORGENSTERN STOP FUCKING THE TREES
01. Draugnim - Northwind's Ire
02. Black Lotus - Harvest of Seasons
03. SIG:AR:TYR - Beyond the North Winds
04. Forefather - Steadfast
05. Moonsorrow - Tulimyrsky
06. Horn - Naturkraft
07. Kampfar - Heimgang
08. Askival - Eternity
09. Battle Dagorath - Eternal Throne
10. Coldworld - Melancholie

S0UP REALLY JUST LISTENS TO SLAYER
1. Amon Amarth - Twilight of The Thundergod
2. Opeth - Watershed
3. Vader - XXV (A reissue album of their greatest hits? Brilliant!)
4. Pain - Cynic Paradise
5. Bloodbath - The Fathomless Mastery
6. Kalmah - For The Revolution
7. Meshuggah - obZen
8. Gojira - The way of All Flesh
9. Dismember - Dismember
10. Enslaved - Vertebrae

Llama of the Shifting Lists
1. Amon Amarth - Twilight of The Thundergod
2. Hail of Bullets - ...Of Frost and War
3. Týr - Land
4. Moonsorrow - Tulimyrsky
5. Bloodbath - The Fathomless Mastery
6. Enslaved - Vertebrae
7. Meshuggah - obZen
8. Agalloch - The White (don't hurt me)
9. Equilibrium - Sagas
10. Kalmah - For the Revolution
11. Falchion - Chronicles of the Dead
12. Darkthrone - Dark Thrones and Black Flags (hiking metal punks? how can you not love it)
13. Arghoslent - Hornets of the Pogrom

Rhan9 remembers these fondly
1. Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
2. SIG:AR:TYR - Beyond the North Winds
3. Eluveitie - Slania
4. Ayreon - 01011001
5. Opeth - Watershed
6. Dark Empire - Humanity Dethroned
7. Lifelover - Konkurs
8. Stormlord - Mare Nostrum
9. Kalmah - For the Revolution
10. Obtest - Gyvybes Medis

Futt Bucker's list is the quick dicks
1. Darkthrone - Dark Thrones and Black Flags
2. Amon Amarth - Twilight Of The Thunder God
3. Tyr - Land
4. Gloomy Grim - Under The Spell Of The Unlight
5. Arghoslent - Hornets Of The Pogrom

Welcome to Crazy Larry's Emporium of Total Metal Madness!
1. Ihsahn - AngL
2. Cynic - Traced In Air
3. Darkthrone - Dark Thrones And Black Flags
4. Gojira - The Way Of All Flesh
5. Amon Amarth - Twilight Of The Thunder God
6. Hail of Bullets - ...Of Frost and War
7. Moonspell - Night Eternal
8. Meshuggah - obZen
9. Falconer - Among Beggars and Thieves
10. Pharaoh - Be Gone
11. Dark Empire - Humanity Dethroned
12. Motorhead - Motorizer
13. Testament - The Formation Of Damnnation
14. Benedictum - Seasons Of Tragedy
15. Alestorm - Captain Morgan's Revenge
Honorable Mention - Van Canto

Yakul Calls the Shower-Shaker
1. Obtest - Gyvybes Medis
2. Darkthrone - Darkthrones and Black Flags
3. Pharoah - Be Gone
4. The Sword - Gods of the Earth
5. SIG:AR:TYR - Beyond the North Winds
6. Kurgan - And Green Grasses Are Freezing Slowly
7. Lifelover - Konkurs
8. Opeth - Watershed (extra points given for no embarrasing front lawn photos)

Blakout with his cock out
1. Transcending Bizarre? - The Serpent's Manifolds
2. Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
3. Kalmah - For the Revolution
4. Artefact - Ruins
5. Cynic - Traced in Air
6. Protest the Hero - Fortress
7. Opeth - Watershed
8. Bloodbath - The Fathomless Mastery
9. Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
10. Ihsahn - AngL
11. In Flames - A Sense of Purpose
12. Meshuggah - ObZen
13. Hail of Bullets - Of Frost and War
14. Murderplan - Let's Roll
15. Svartediket - Svartediket
16. Enslaved - Vertebrae
17. Metallica - Death Magnetic
18. Alestorm - Captain Morgan's Revenge
19. Svafnir - The Heathen Chapters
20. Children of Bodom - Blooddrunk
Best Metallica album of 2008: Master of Puppets

Ah_Pook has something to say
top tier shit
Machetazo - Mundo Cripta
Dead Congregation - Graves Of The Archangels
Coffins - Buried Death
Kill The Client - Cleptocracy
Origin - Antithesis

really good shit
Brain Drill - Apocalyptic Feasting
Captain Cleanoff - Symphonies Of Slackness
Gruesome Stuff Relish - Horror Rises From The Tomb
Dead Infection - Corpses Of The Universe
Hooded Menace - Fulfill The Curse
Flagitious Indiosyncrasy In The Dilapidation - s/t
Hate Eternal - Fury And Flames
Destructive Explosion Of Anal Garland - Cutterclit
Amon Amarth - Twilight Of The Thunder God
Decrepit Birth - Diminishing Between Worlds

All you other deadbeats better follow suit or we won't let you into our awesome magic fairyland full of yellow birds and hot guys on motorcycles when you die.

So what does 2009 have in store? I'd like to reserve this space for this year's releases, whether they're pending or released, and review links if available:

new Summoning y/n/plz?!

Ablaze in Hatred - The Quietude Plains (Win)
Absu - Absu
Amesoeurs
Anathema - Horizons
Autopsy - Horrific Obsession ep
Cannibal Corpse - Evisceration Plague (Epic Win)
Cattle Decapitation - The Harvest Floor
Church of Misery (Jpn) - Houses of the Unnholy
Clairvoyants - Word to the Wise (Win)
Colosseum - Chapter II: Numquam (Win)
Dark the Suns - All Ends in Silence
Deceiver - Thrashing Heavy Metal (Win)
Decrepit Spectre - Coal Black Hearses ep (Win)
Entwine - Painstained (Win)
Evil Masquerade - Fade to Black (Win)
Fen - The Malediction Fields (Epic Win)
Forest Stream - The Crown Of Winter
Grave Digger - Ballads of a Hangman (Epic Win)
HammerFall - No Sacrifice, No Victory
Imperium Dekadenz
Inferi - End of an Era (Win)
Isis -
Isole - Silent Ruins
Kreator - Hordes of Chaos (Epic Win)
Malfeitor
Mastodon - Crack the Skye
My Universe - Infinite Spaces (Win)
Napalm Death - Time Waits For No Slave (Epic Win)
Old Man's Child
Ondskapt - Arisen From The Ashes
Psyopus - Odd Senses
Rebellion
Rhino - Dead Throne Monarch (Epic Win)
Rudra - Brahmavidya: Transcendental I
Samael - Above
Saxon - Into the Labyrinth (Win)
Seance - Awakening of the Gods (Win)
Shining - VI - Klagopsalmer
Shrinebuilder
Sidus Tenebrarum - Born From the Dark Rib
Solstafir - Kold (Epic Win)
Slayer
Suidakra - Crogacht (Win)
Tribulation - The Horror (Epic Win)
Ulcerate - Everything is Fire
Vader - Necropolis
Vidharr - Eclipse
Vinterriket - Horizontmelancholie
Vreid - Milorg
Wino - Punctuated Equilibrium (Indifference)
Wintersun - It's never coming out. Ever.
Woe of Tyrants - Kingdom of Might (Win)

Some basic guidelines for people just joining up with us:

we know that dethklok are the brutalest
we know that Dragonforce are the noodliest
we know that Opeth is some craaaazy shit, dog
we do, in fact, not look down upon Between the Buried and Me
we do, in fact, look down harshly upon Killswitch Engage

Please keep in mind - kvlties just wanna have fun. If you can dig that, bring your black leather and come masturbate with us to the butteriest riffs this side of the gulf of Darien.

And, when you're itching for some more meat in your metal, follow this lovely portal of a picture for all the reviews you could shake a cock at.

Let's not forget those that came before!
PA.fm 2007 review thread
Our first community review blog
July 06 to April 07
June to December 08
January 09 to May 09

Ah_Pook · May 2009

new thread smell

lets danken it up a little

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC6EKGAAeLE

Rhan9 · May 2009

META, get your ass here.

I recall you raving about Amesoeurs, which I've recently heard a few songs from, namely Les Ruches Malades, La Reine Trayeuse, and Faiblesse Des Sens, and I'm now pretty damn curious. Is the rest of their stuff like this? If not, would you happen to know any bands that are?

kkthxbai

Drake · May 2009

Bring the Dankening

edit: And Dankener...

S0up · May 2009

Ya know, I briefly considered making the new thread and naming it 666: The Number Of The [Hesher]. So, new Destroyer 666 (That hopefully hasn't gone stale 6 years in the making), new Slayer (Which hopefully isn't so 'meh' this time around), and new Porcupine Tree (That hopefully doesn't keep me delving further into Prog and away from Metal) this year. Color me excited, and hopeful.

Adrenaline · May 2009

Well, our thread title is probably going to get a lot more recognition after this.

Blakout · May 2009

I wish In the Constellation of the Black Widow would come out already.

I haven't really been wowed by anything this year yet. There's been some good stuff, just nothing that's really clicked with me, I dunno.

Drake · May 2009

Adrenaline wrote: »

Well, our thread title is probably going to get a lot more recognition after this.

Oh my god. I want to burn the film with fire.

Everyone knows that Rivers Edge is the true Metal.

METAzraeL · May 2009

Rhan9 wrote: »

META, get your ass here.

I recall you raving about Amesoeurs, which I've recently heard a few songs from, namely Les Ruches Malades, La Reine Trayeuse, and Faiblesse Des Sens, and I'm now pretty damn curious. Is the rest of their stuff like this? If not, would you happen to know any bands that are?

kkthxbai

I never exactly raved about Amesoeurs (perhaps you are mistaking me for Fallovt, or are thinking of Lifelover, who you need to check out), but I was excited for their debut. Sadly, I was not exactly impressed by the album. Their ep work is definitely the height of their material, although there are a few standout tracks. Amesoeurs have always had a pretty unique style, more punky and skram-influenced (early on) than most post-black metal bands. As I said, though, go listen to Lifelover - start with Pulver, then do Konkurs, and finish with Erotik if you like their style.

Thanks for starting the thread, Adren - definitely no need to credit me in it, though. Could you add a link to the previous thread at the bottom, too? I'd like to keep up on that so we have all the old discussions handy.

Adus · May 2009

I rather like Sirenia, but I almost never pay attention to lyrics. I'd say I know the lyrics to 10% of the songs I listen to. Most of the time because they simply are indecipherable and I'm too lazy to look them up.

Whoever suggested Novembre, pretty good. Liking them so far. No songs have particularly caught onto me yet, though.

Dragonland wasn't bad either. I feel like one of the few fans of a lot of Power Metal here, but Six Magics is a lot better than they get credit for.

L|ama · May 2009

Wait, Ulcerate is mentioned in the OP? A metal band from new zealand that isn't absolutely terrible? Of course they don't come here on their tour, typical.

truck-a-sauras · May 2009

Drake wrote: »

Adrenaline wrote: »

Well, our thread title is probably going to get a lot more recognition after this.

Oh my god. I want to burn the film with fire.

Everyone knows that Rivers Edge is the true Metal.

Rivers Edge was annoying at best, like the Limp Bizkit of movies

Robocop is true Metal

autothrall · May 2009

RoboCop did not have Hallows Eve, Fates Warning and Slayer in the soundtrack.

Rivers Edge wins.

Rhan9 · May 2009

METAzraeL wrote: »

Rhan9 wrote: »

META, get your ass here.

I recall you raving about Amesoeurs, which I've recently heard a few songs from, namely Les Ruches Malades, La Reine Trayeuse, and Faiblesse Des Sens, and I'm now pretty damn curious. Is the rest of their stuff like this? If not, would you happen to know any bands that are?

kkthxbai

I never exactly raved about Amesoeurs (perhaps you are mistaking me for Fallovt, or are thinking of Lifelover, who you need to check out), but I was excited for their debut. Sadly, I was not exactly impressed by the album. Their ep work is definitely the height of their material, although there are a few standout tracks. Amesoeurs have always had a pretty unique style, more punky and skram-influenced (early on) than most post-black metal bands. As I said, though, go listen to Lifelover - start with Pulver, then do Konkurs, and finish with Erotik if you like their style.

Thanks for starting the thread, Adren - definitely no need to credit me in it, though. Could you add a link to the previous thread at the bottom, too? I'd like to keep up on that so we have all the old discussions handy.

Yeah, sorry. I meant Fallout.

And his Audrey obsession:P

You talked about Lifelover, my bad. I have in fact checked them before, at least Konkurs. My exposure was fairly brief though, I'll have to remedy that.

truck-a-sauras · May 2009

autothrall wrote: »

RoboCop did not have Hallows Eve, Fates Warning and Slayer in the soundtrack.

Rivers Edge wins.

Rivers Edge wins as long as you aren't watching the movie. But really I was just jabbering bullshit to mark the new thread.

While the soundtrack isn't as metal as your Rivers Edge I still enjoy the original Mortal Kombat movie, Scorpion vs Johnny Cage with Fear Factory blaring in the background, it is nerdgasm worthy.

Drake · May 2009

truck-a-sauras wrote: »

Drake wrote: »

Adrenaline wrote: »

Well, our thread title is probably going to get a lot more recognition after this.

Oh my god. I want to burn the film with fire.

Everyone knows that Rivers Edge is the true Metal.

Rivers Edge was annoying at best, like the Limp Bizkit of movies

Robocop is true Metal

Shit... Vin Diesel wasn't anywhere near River's Edge.

METAzraeL · May 2009

truck-a-sauras wrote: »

autothrall wrote: »

RoboCop did not have Hallows Eve, Fates Warning and Slayer in the soundtrack.

Rivers Edge wins.

Rivers Edge wins as long as you aren't watching the movie. But really I was just jabbering bullshit to mark the new thread.

While the soundtrack isn't as metal as your Rivers Edge I still enjoy the original Mortal Kombat movie, Scorpion vs Johnny Cage with Fear Factory blaring in the background, it is nerdgasm worthy.

There was also a Sepultura remix for Mortal Kombat :P

Morgenstern · May 2009

New thread needs a party.

The blackest of parties...

A black mass-querade...

POSSESSED BY.....SAAAAAATTTTAAAANNNNNN

Video might have some titties in it actually. It's from the KrakÃ³w concert they did. You know the one.

Morgenstern · May 2009

I take issue with Dragonforce being acknowledged as the noodliest.

Narian · May 2009

Learning to play guitar takes up a lot of time but damn if it isn't fun.

Holy shit, just checked out Blind Guardian's website and Hansi posted saying they had 8+ songs written including a song based on the Wheel of Time books. It's going to be a long year...

Rhan9 · May 2009

Narian wrote: »

Learning to play guitar takes up a lot of time but damn if it isn't fun.

Holy shit, just checked out Blind Guardian's website and Hansi posted saying they had 8+ songs written including a song based on the Wheel of Time books. It's going to be a long year...

*Tugs braid*

Adrenaline · May 2009

Morgenstern wrote: »

I take issue with Dragonforce being acknowledged as the noodliest.

And not dethklok the brutalest?

Impostor! :P

S0up · May 2009

Adrenaline wrote: »

Morgenstern wrote: »

I take issue with Dragonforce being acknowledged as the noodliest.

And not dethklok the brutalest?

Impostor! :P

Everytime I hear Dragonforce I think:

NSFW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRkA6zugNMQ

Tav · May 2009

Hehe, Anal Cunt and Mark "Chopper" Read are doing a show together.

autothrall · May 2009

Harden the fuck up, Seth!

METAzraeL · May 2009

Hm, Masachist have a nice lineup of Polish vets, but the first song on their space is not very exciting.

New Gorod and Glorior Belli.

Ok, the flesh-eating ghost slug is goddamn metal. That name is a killer song title on its own, sheesh.

autothrall · May 2009

The Masachist album is pretty dull, was going to review it but just couldn't be bothered. Nothing to say. For the most part the members' other bands are all considerably better.

New (?) Caïna EP.

Ah_Pook · May 2009

well im leaving tomorrow for the MDF. basically its going to be the best fucking thing to ever happen, is what im thinking.

desc · May 2009

Darn you, Ah_pook. I want to see Pig Destroyer live!

Githzerai · May 2009

Bolt Thrower and the billion other pant-jizzingly amazing bands aside, I think this is actually the best fucking thing to ever happen. The next metal tourist to whine about "Europe getting all the best shows" is going to get a kick in the clunge.

Ah_Pook · May 2009

repulsion is an incredibly sweet band, but they played at MDF years ago. and brutal truth and pig destroyer are both playing there this year too.

anyway its just nice to see good shows around in the US you know. its gonna be hard to top this years MDF lineup without getting into some arena headliner kind of territory.

Githzerai · May 2009

It's more the fact that it's all three of the bands, in the same place, with the entirety of 'Horrified' being played from start to finish (not that Repulsion have a lot of options material wise of course). I'm just bitter because I was supposed to be going to MDF this year.

Liquid Ghost · May 2009

So Skyforger is up in its entirety on the Amorphis MySpace. Most people who care about this probably already know, however.

METAzraeL · May 2009

He Pook, if you nab me a small-sized Bolt Thrower shirt, I will totally pay you extra for it.

Rhan9 · May 2009

Liquid Ghost wrote: »

So Skyforger is up in its entirety on the Amorphis MySpace. Most people who care about this probably already know, however.

Yeah, I was just about to post this. I haven't had time yet to listen through it though.

autothrall · May 2009

Wish I could head to MDF, lot of great bands there, I've seen all before except Hail of Bullets but still...Pestilence, Hail of Bullets, Bolt Thrower...at once...

A lot more black metal in there than usual. Could MDF be morphing into an all purpose metal fest?

Blakout · May 2009

Someone come to ohio, kidnap me, and take me to Maryland.

At least I get to watch Opeth and Enslaved on Saturday.

Tav · May 2009

METAzraeL wrote: »

He Pook, if you nab me a small-sized Bolt Thrower shirt, I will totally pay you extra for it.

:winky:

Bolthorn · May 2009

Blakout wrote: »

Someone come to ohio, kidnap me, and take me to Maryland.

At least I get to watch Opeth and Enslaved on Saturday.

For some odd reason I thought I had missed this. Apparently not. Now to decide if I want to go or not.

Adrenaline · May 2009

Ah_Pook wrote: »

well im leaving tomorrow for the MDF. basically its going to be the best fucking thing to ever happen, is what im thinking.

Anyone have an opinion on Asphyx?

METAzraeL · May 2009

Tav wrote: »

METAzraeL wrote: »

He Pook, if you nab me a small-sized Bolt Thrower shirt, I will totally pay you extra for it.

:winky:

8-)

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