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F*cking the Peach, and other stories.

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  • AresProphetAresProphet Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    The best part about this thread is the people feigning outrage at its existence

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  • MaceraMacera UGH GODDAMMIT STOP ENJOYING THINGSRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    The best part about this thread is the people feigning outrage at its existence

    Man, I'm worried people will start condoning furries.

    It would be a dark day for the PA Forums.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    The thread seemed to start out alright, but now...I don't know anymore.

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  • VeganVegan Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I find it amusing that the same day this thread was made was also when the announcement was made that Marge Simpson will be featured in Playboy.

    Say what?

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    The best part about this thread is the people feigning outrage at its existence

    Who's feigning? I think they're plenty outraged

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  • CaedereCaedere S'no regrets BIRDIESRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Macera wrote: »
    The best part about this thread is the people feigning outrage at its existence

    Man, I'm worried people will start condoning furries.

    It would be a dark day for the PA Forums.

    You're a few years too late. :lol:

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  • SorensonSorenson Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Vegan wrote: »
    I find it amusing that the same day this thread was made was also when the announcement was made that Marge Simpson will be featured in Playboy.

    Say what?
    There really is no fucking god, is there?

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Caedere wrote: »
    Macera wrote: »
    The best part about this thread is the people feigning outrage at its existence

    Man, I'm worried people will start condoning furries.

    It would be a dark day for the PA Forums.

    You're a few years too late. :lol:

    No, we still think they are freaks, creaps and vile beasts.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Pancake wrote: »
    let's put it this way: nobody thinks a girl is a loser because she writes a romantic fanfic about herself and that dude from twilight.

    What? Yes they do.

    Not really, certainly not in the same way. It’s attributed to them silly tweenagers and is treated in a far less ‘creepy’ fashion. It’s tied up into a lot of cultural factors, from the place women occupy in society (lol what can a women do to me etc) basically a lack of power imbued in them. Alongside the fact that to a large extent nerds are defined by their sexuality (or the lack thereof) in the popular mindset, and women can’t be defined by that, because what women couldn’t have sex if she wanted? Us men are just such randy bastards after all.

    If anything it is creepier though, the guy touching himself to some anime girl at least isn’t thinking about him on an emotional level, and oh what a perfect man he’d be for me. Especially when it’s a character like Darcy (I use this example because in a seminar our lecturer had to implicitly make the point of him being a literary construct – from a things have got weird with prior seminar groups standpoint).

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Leitner wrote: »
    Pancake wrote: »
    let's put it this way: nobody thinks a girl is a loser because she writes a romantic fanfic about herself and that dude from twilight.

    What? Yes they do.

    Not really, certainly not in the same way. It’s attributed to them silly tweenagers and is treated in a far less ‘creepy’ fashion. It’s tied up into a lot of cultural factors, from the place women occupy in society (lol what can a women do to me etc) basically a lack of power imbued in them. Alongside the fact that to a large extent nerds are defined by their sexuality (or the lack thereof) in the popular mindset, and women can’t be defined by that, because what women couldn’t have sex if she wanted? Us men are just such randy bastards after all.

    Look, no one can say that in good conscience after the grief I got for my self-insertion Barney Calhoun fanfic. It was a work of art, but people still make fun of me for being "a fucking weirdo" and "creepy as all hell." Dog and the twenty combine soldiers were necessary to the plot.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Leitner wrote: »
    Not really, certainly not in the same way. It’s attributed to them silly tweenagers and is treated in a far less ‘creepy’ fashion. It’s tied up into a lot of cultural factors, from the place women occupy in society (lol what can a women do to me etc) basically a lack of power imbued in them. Alongside the fact that to a large extent nerds are defined by their sexuality (or the lack thereof) in the popular mindset, and women can’t be defined by that, because what women couldn’t have sex if she wanted? Us men are just such randy bastards after all.

    If anything it is creepier though, the guy touching himself to some anime girl at least isn’t thinking about him on an emotional level, and oh what a perfect man he’d be for me. Especially when it’s a character like Darcy (I use this example because in a seminar our lecturer had to implicitly make the point of him being a literary construct – from a things have got weird with prior seminar groups standpoint).
    Because treating women soley as sexual objects is a super healthy way of viewing women.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    ...

    Would you please point out where you got that from my post?

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  • CaedereCaedere S'no regrets BIRDIESRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Blaket wrote: »
    Caedere wrote: »
    Macera wrote: »
    The best part about this thread is the people feigning outrage at its existence

    Man, I'm worried people will start condoning furries.

    It would be a dark day for the PA Forums.

    You're a few years too late. :lol:

    No, we still think they are freaks, creaps and vile beasts.

    Nawww. Hasn't been my experience. As long as people aren't being annoying about it, the boards are pretty cool about the whole thing.

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  • NuzakNuzak Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Pancake wrote: »
    Look, no one can say that in good conscience after the grief I got for my self-insertion Barney Calhoun fanfic. It was a work of art, but people still make fun of me for being "a fucking weirdo" and "creepy as all hell." Dog and the twenty combine soldiers were necessary to the plot.

    maybe this thread has potential after all
    make it forty soldiers

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  • Mr FuzzbuttMr Fuzzbutt Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    "Oh D0G, your metallic carapace is so smooth!" exclaimed Barney. D0G winked his single glowing eye seductively, his body glinting shinily in the sunlight.

    As Barney lay back, with D0G's weight gently but firmly pressing on his chest, a snapping twig could be heard nearby. D0G jumped up in alarm, his sexy robot legs sending up a cloud of dust.

    "What's going on here?" yelled the Combine soldier who had just entered the clearing. "You will be immediately executed by me and my [strike]twenty[/strike] forty soldiers, unless you can find a way to... satisfy us."

    ...TO BE CONTINUED IN PART 2

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  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    http://warrenlouw.deviantart.com/art/Becky-IFX-137914339

    When they make something like this in a 3D game and keep the same level of detail/stylization I will say that there is no way in hell you can refer to videos games as being incapable of being art.

    One of the biggest issues with seeing VGs as art is that they are video 'games'. Most people (even those who really enjoy them) will not say sports are 'artistic'. Of course, I would argue that in various boxing matches the various nuances of the two bodies going at each other is very artistic (in a scientific/biological way).

    This sort of cognitive dissonance between paintings and so on and video games is even more obvious when you have games like Okami (and some will argue 'Celda') as basically moving paintings. It's kind of funny to think that if you just basically took a still from any given scene in Okami and said it was some drawing someone made that it can be considered art, but by golly it stops doing that once it's in motion. It's just fucking bizarre.

    As for getting turned on/attracted to renderings - it's perfectly normal. That picture I linked I find VERY attractive. Do I lust after it? No, but you know I'd cream myself if I ever found a girl IRL who looked like that (and yes, I know her proportions border on impossible) and I see no reason why I shouldn't find a 2D rendition of her (if we were going in opposite fashion) to be attractive.

    As for stuff like hentai, it's not surprising it's so popular. I would argue it's also why people like amateur porn so much (and why there are now like a billion *tube.com sites), since I feel a lot of people are put off by the 'staged' feeling that professional pornography has. Additionally, hentai has many different possible styles which would logically allow for more variety in the people who enjoy it. Personally when it comes to manga/anime I honestly cannot stand those that are drawn in a realistic style. Not sure why, but I just hate them. I find stuff drawn like in CLAMP (google it) animes and Bleach to be much more agreeable. Oddly enough this doesn't affect my interest in just paintings as I like most styles.

    Just like homosexuality, pedophilia, or any other differentiating sexual interests it's merely a symptom of both your brain chemistry and to some extent your upbringing. Now, I've not studied it and I cannot say what causes people to go from merely finding an image attractive to actively creating some sort of fantasy life with it but it's not really a choice people make so much as an impulse they choose to act (or not act) on.

    However, as we grow up and discover our sexuality there are many key things we sort of 'discover' that set us off. Most of the time the medium for these objects (body parts, sexual acts, etc) isn't terribly important as they'll usually have a similar effect. As I grew up I found that I consider the stomach to be a very attractive (well, potentially) part of a girl and I see no reason why I can't find that same part to be attractive (or even potentially erotic) in a drawing when I can in person or through pictures/video. Yes, it's just lines but on the same arguement you could just say it's skin and muscle and blah blah blah. The point is not how it is, but what it is. Thus if you like boobs, when you see something that makes you think of boobs, there will be a response. It's rather silly to say that just because it's drawn or in a game or something that suddenly it's not the same thing. It is.

    Anyhow, uh.. I think that's it. If I can think of something else to say I'll update later!

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  • Alfred J. KwakAlfred J. Kwak is it because you were insulted when I insulted your hair?Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Who else here remembers that leaked Lara Croft concept art? It's quite interesting to see how that character who pretty much set the benchmark for "sex sales" in video games changed with the time (well, I think most noteably her boobs gradually became smaller in the newer incarnations? I haven't actaully played any of the games much).

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Magus` wrote: »
    Just like homosexuality, pedophilia, or any other differentiating sexual interests it's merely a symptom of both your brain chemistry and to some extent your upbringing.
    I can see your point here, but I'm a little offended by this sentence. Heterosexuality also falls under this, of course, as do objectosexuality and more. There is a difference, though, between 'wrong' and 'weird'. I'm not sure that comparing this sort of thing to paedophilia is going to go anywhere - they are very separate.

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  • AsiinaAsiina ... WaterlooRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Can we not act like there's anything more than luck as a driving force of Stephenie Meyer's success? Because there is nothing unique or interesting about Edward Cullen. In fact his distinguishing characteristics are mostly being an incredibly blank slate with vaguely abusive tendencies.

    It has fuck-all to do with luck. Stephanie Meyer's books tap into some deep-seated (and frankly disturbing) female romantic fantasies.

    There has to be something going for these books, because it's terrible fucking writing. Seriously, pick one up next time you're in a store (they tend to have them on display anywhere) and flip to any page. I've done this about half a dozen times and it's always some bullshit about how brooding and perfect Edward is *swoon*.

    Maybe there's candy at the centre of the book or the pages are laced with cocaine, but luck will not save a book this bad.

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  • moocowmoocow Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I was afraid this was going to become some sort of pixellated ranger thread.

    Good on you, G&T.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Can we not act like there's anything more than luck as a driving force of Stephenie Meyer's success? Because there is nothing unique or interesting about Edward Cullen. In fact his distinguishing characteristics are mostly being an incredibly blank slate with vaguely abusive tendencies.

    It has fuck-all to do with luck. Stephanie Meyer's books tap into some deep-seated (and frankly disturbing) female romantic fantasies.

    It has everything to do with luck. These books do absolutely nothing that a billion other YA books do in exactly the same way. Twilight got lucky, was noticed by enough squealing girls, and word of mouth did the rest. Any other shitty YA romance novel could have functionally filled this void.

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  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Edward Cullen is ridiculously popular amongst women who have never grown up because he is the ultimate fantasy: the de-fanged bad boy! And abusive? You mean concerned. That's right, he cares so much it appears as if he is trying to control every single facet of that lucky girl's life (and if she listened she'd of course be better off - he knows best, after all!)

    God, I hate Stephanie Meyer.

    For the record, it doesn't matter what you fantasize to when you decide to spank the monkey or itch the ditch, as long as you recognize it is a fantasy. You've got to do your actual living and loving out in the real world. And if you decide to tell your deepest darkest fantasy to someone else, you're going to be judged, and usually harshly. That's just the way it works.

    I'd take Sam Fisher over Sparkles McLamepire any day of the week, but that's just how I roll.

    You know for the longest time I thought when I kept seeing people having written Edward Cullen I thought they were talking about Peter Cullen and just getting his first name wrong.

    Then I found out the horrible truth.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Rent wrote: »
    Oh...kay

    I don't think the question is 'Is she hot?' but 'Is she beautiful?"

    I think Yuna is a beautiful character. Terra, sorta. But I don't think Tifa is- far too "HEY GUISE BREASTS AND FIGHTIN"

    No. Die.

    (Utterly irrelevant contribution to the thread, but that seems to be the way things are going.)

    The single, dominating idea I took away from Yuna (especially in the first game) was 'goofy as hell'.

    I mean, perhaps there was some form of beauty or grace there, but it was masquerading everything else being unintentionally (?) slapstick--her goofy way of talking, her goofy run, that god-awkward laughing scene. Man, I still have nightmares about that laughing scene.

    Then again, I immediately made the mental manifestation of Yuna = Nun, and I don't buy into the whole nun fetish (I find it creepy, then again, I'm not a Christian). Creepy, goofy laughing nun.

    EDIT: Man, apparently, I have missed out on an entire cultural experience not having seen (or read really heard anything about) Twilight. I never have any idea what people are talking about. :(

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  • QuirkyLittleTyrantQuirkyLittleTyrant A Mug Featuring Pichu On A Cloud Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Synthesis wrote: »
    EDIT: Man, apparently, I have missed out on an entire cultural experience not having scene (or read really heard anything about) Twilight. I never have any idea what people are talking about. :(

    You're better off not knowing. Really. But I will tell you that the Indians are secretly exploding pedophile werewolves.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Synthesis wrote: »
    EDIT: Man, apparently, I have missed out on an entire cultural experience not having scene (or read really heard anything about) Twilight. I never have any idea what people are talking about. :(

    You're better off not knowing. Really. But I will tell you that the Indians are secretly exploding pedophile werewolves.

    First off, damn homonyms.

    Second, huh wha....?

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote: »
    EDIT: Man, apparently, I have missed out on an entire cultural experience not having scene (or read really heard anything about) Twilight. I never have any idea what people are talking about. :(

    You're better off not knowing. Really. But I will tell you that the Indians are secretly exploding pedophile werewolves.

    First off, damn homonyms.

    Second, huh wha....?

    It's much worse than you can imagine.

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote: »
    EDIT: Man, apparently, I have missed out on an entire cultural experience not having scene (or read really heard anything about) Twilight. I never have any idea what people are talking about. :(

    You're better off not knowing. Really. But I will tell you that the Indians are secretly exploding pedophile werewolves.

    First off, damn homonyms.

    Second, huh wha....?

    It's much worse than you can imagine.
    For something so awful, you guys sure know a lot about it. Like, I'm pretty sure the werewolf is in the second book, judging from the trailer, but they don't show anything other than it's a werewolf.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    It can be helpful to have an in-depth knowledge of exactly why and how something is utterly atrocious. Still not sure it was worth it.

    Anywho though, basically the werewolves in Twilight (and this has a lot to do with the series is one huge parade of Mormon ideals and values) all have a soul mate who they will know upon sight and immediately "imprint" upon. Note that the male is always the one doing the imprinting, and it is not unusual but in fact explicitly described that sometimes their soul mate woman may in fact be a child when he discovers her.

    And that to account for this, he will play the role of big brother and take care of her until she's old enough to love him uncondition-uggghhhhh.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Goomba wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote: »
    EDIT: Man, apparently, I have missed out on an entire cultural experience not having scene (or read really heard anything about) Twilight. I never have any idea what people are talking about. :(

    You're better off not knowing. Really. But I will tell you that the Indians are secretly exploding pedophile werewolves.

    First off, damn homonyms.

    Second, huh wha....?

    It's much worse than you can imagine.
    For something so awful, you guys sure know a lot about it. Like, I'm pretty sure the werewolf is in the second book, judging from the trailer, but they don't show anything other than it's a werewolf.

    This is, verbatim, what I find myself telling my friends who love using Twilight (perhaps rightly so, I don't know) as a whipping boy.

    All I know was that the trailers were really....iffy.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Really, reading uniquely horrible books to find out why they're bad isn't all that unusual.

    But for me, Twilight stands out because unlike other bad books I've read it isn't just a matter of being poorly written, but also just how incredibly fucked up it is in the things it portrays as good and ideal. And the fact that an enormous amount of people are reading it and not realizing this :(

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  • Metal Gear Solid 2 DemoMetal Gear Solid 2 Demo Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Guys no really I read the books but I hate them c'mon guys seriously no that's not my team jacob shirt it's my sister's

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Really, reading uniquely horrible books to find out why they're bad isn't all that unusual.

    Really? Are you sure?

    Of course, I'm one of those lame weenies who doesn't eat rotten food to find out just how violently ill it'll make me either...though I have seen a few bad movies just to say I had (not at any monetary cost though, to hell with that).
    Guys no really I read the books but I hate them c'mon guys seriously no that's not my team jacob shirt it's my sister's

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Really, reading uniquely horrible books to find out why they're bad isn't all that unusual.

    Really? Are you sure?

    Of course, I'm one of those lame weenies who doesn't eat rotten food to find out just how violently ill it'll make me either...though I have seen a few bad movies just to say I had (not at any monetary cost though, to hell with that).

    How is it any different from watching hilariously bad movies? :)

    Twilight rarely manages to be funny in how terrible it is (though there's a certain amusement to be had in the fact that there is literally no fucking conflict in the entire story), but it is nice to be able to intelligently point out precise flaws when it's getting undue praise.

    Unless...unless are you guys trying to tell me that bad books can give me cooties? That cooties are hidden away on the pages? Oh noooeeesss

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  • El GuacoEl Guaco Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Then there are people like me, who read the first book after friends raved about it and I had 6 hours to kill on an airplane. It was morbid curiosity that got me to the end of the book. Because it certainly wasn't good. I was bitterly disappointed that the dude didn't bite her at the end of the book.

    Fiaryn nailed it: the whole pubescent angst of wanting someone but abstaining is like catnip for sexually repressed teens. The "conflict" is just a metaphor for teen sexuality. Or should I say it's more specifically about abstinence.

    What the fuck does this have to do with sexuality in video games? Oh God, please don't tell me there's a Twilight game.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    El Guaco wrote: »
    Then there are people like me, who read the first book after friends raved about it and I had 6 hours to kill on an airplane. It was morbid curiosity that got me to the end of the book. Because it certainly wasn't good. I was bitterly disappointed that the dude didn't bite her at the end of the book.

    Fiaryn nailed it: the whole pubescent angst of wanting someone but abstaining is like catnip for sexually repressed teens. The "conflict" is just a metaphor for teen sexuality. Or should I say it's more specifically about abstinence.

    What the fuck does this have to do with sexuality in video games? Oh God, please don't tell me there's a Twilight game.

    Scene It? Twilight for the Wii and DS. I forgot when they are coming out.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Couscous wrote: »
    El Guaco wrote: »
    Then there are people like me, who read the first book after friends raved about it and I had 6 hours to kill on an airplane. It was morbid curiosity that got me to the end of the book. Because it certainly wasn't good. I was bitterly disappointed that the dude didn't bite her at the end of the book.

    Fiaryn nailed it: the whole pubescent angst of wanting someone but abstaining is like catnip for sexually repressed teens. The "conflict" is just a metaphor for teen sexuality. Or should I say it's more specifically about abstinence.

    What the fuck does this have to do with sexuality in video games? Oh God, please don't tell me there's a Twilight game.

    Scene It? Twilight for the Wii and DS. I forgot when they are coming out.

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  • AnalrapistAnalrapist Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Really, reading uniquely horrible books to find out why they're bad isn't all that unusual.

    But for me, Twilight stands out because unlike other bad books I've read it isn't just a matter of being poorly written, but also just how incredibly fucked up it is in the things it portrays as good and ideal. And the fact that an enormous amount of people are reading it and not realizing this :(

    I read the first half of the first book out of morbid curiousity.
    Here's how it went down.
    Girl moves to town. Girl cries.
    Girl meets hot mysterious boy. Girl cries.
    Girl cries. Stops, and cries again.
    Boy gives girl boners, girl doesn't know why. Girl cries.
    Boy and girl fall in love, boy is cryptic. Girl cries.
    Girl "can't figure him out" Girl cries. (this continues probably for the whole book, I'm not sure)
    Boy sparkles in the sun. Girl cries.

    That's when I gave the book back to my friend and told her "WHAT THE FUCK?"

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  • El GuacoEl Guaco Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Egad. How much trivia could there be about a teen angst movie? Talk about exploiting a brand.

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  • KetherialKetherial Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    pretty much everyone agrees that getting turned on by reading porno novels is normal. i dont see why getting turned on by games could or should be less normal.

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  • UncleSamUncleSam Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    "How many tears were shed and described in detail by the female protagonist in the first fifty pages of Twilight?"

    -Actual question from Twilight SceneIt*

    *Not an actual question.

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