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I have unclaimed [lots of money] in FL... maybe?

hoodie13hoodie13 punch broRegistered User regular
edited October 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
So I checked my mail yesterday and saw a letter from Florida, but I didn't open it until 30 minutes ago. I kinda wish I did. Here's what it says:
This is an official mailing from the State of Florida, Department of Financial Services.

We believe you may own unclaimed funds currently being held by this office. If the last four digits of your Social Security number are [they put the correct digits here], you are very likely entitled to the account(s) described on the enclosed claim form.

[blah blah blah about the Chief Financial Officer of the State of Florida]

We want to return these funds to you.

To file a claim, please follow the instructions on the enclosed claim form and return it, completed, along with a copy of your valid photo identification. It is important that you fill the form out completely and include all of the requested documentation with your initial submission. This will ensure prompt processing of your claim. Claims filed without the required information and documentation cannot be processed (Chapter 717, Florida Statutes).

Then there's a bunch of information about ways to verify the mailing is authentic, such as searching a database of accounts at www.FLtreasurehunt.org and calling some numbers (850-413-5555 and 888-258-2253).

On the second page of this mailing is a claim form, stating that the full amount of the claim is... well... large. It actually gives me the exact number, but I don't want to post it online for safety/security purposes. It's hefty. The claim form is asking for my full social security number though, as well as my date of birth. It also needs an official document or W-2 that has my name and social sec number.

Now, by going to the website and searching for my first and last name, I was able to find a claim with my name, and my old address. Considering that that address is correct, and that it was 15 or so years ago, it seems like this thing is legit. I haven't been able to call the phone numbers yet because of the time and day, but its the first thing I'm going to do when I get a chance tomorrow.

How scammy does this sound? Am I getting my hopes up be believing this is real? It all seems like it checks out.

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  • PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Can't you call the CFO for Florida or something? I'm sure his office has a number listed somewhere.

    edit: http://www.fldfs.com/ has a place where you can send her an email directly. Maybe give that a try?


    edit2: Actually, they have a spot set up specifically for this kind of thing. http://www.fltreasurehunt.org/Contacted-by-Unclaimed-Property.jsp

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Definitely call the numbers, but also call a third party that could verify the validity (i.e. the CFO of Florida).

    There are always Unclaimed Money scams floating around, but they tend to be much less specific. (Obviously) I wouldn't jump to send them your SS#, but I also wouldn't ignore it.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2009
    The site appears to be legit. I'd follow up directly with the Florida Attorney General's office though to confirm before sending them anything. Also, do they list why you're owed the money? If it does, I'd try calling the owing party directly to confirm.

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  • SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    A quick check finds the following:

    The phone numbers appears to be legit as Florida CFO, and wikipedia links to www.myfloridacfo.com as the the site of the Florida CFO, Alex Sink. (Strangely enough, a NAW check of the site gave me an adress in Madeiras as contact, which made me a bit suspicious, but it could be some outsourced webbuilding)

    http://www.myfloridacfo.com/Consumers/Guides/GeneralFinancial/docs/Unclaimed_Prop_2008.pdf suggests such sums, and such a service, exist. Check on there if you can match the claim / amount. Call them to confirm they sent out this e-mail, and if it's the correct procedure. I'm a bit wary that they approached you.

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  • RhinoRhino TheRhinLOL Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Have you ever been to Florida? Do they tell you what it's from?

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  • hoodie13hoodie13 punch bro Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Some clarifications: this wasn't an email, it was an actual document mailed to me on what I assume is Florida letterhead. I have been to Florida before (lived there for 5 years). My parents didn't know anything about any funds that may or may not be unclaimed.

    The claim form mentioned that the money was a credit balance from UBS Financial Services, which is a bank.

    So everything I'm seeing here is legit, it seems.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Does it say why you might be able to claim this windfall? Overpaid taxes, class action beneficiary, whatever?

    I would call the numbers it gives you as well as the florida AG before I did anything more.

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  • EllthiterenEllthiteren Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I had something similar happen, with stock held for me by my parents. Something funky happened where the state took it over when I turned 18 and didn't change it to be in my name. Anyway, I had to send my parents' financial person a bunch of documentation, said person sent it to the state, and I got a nice check.

    Don't know how much that helps, but at least you know it can happen without being a scam.

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  • Namel3ssNamel3ss Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Right off, it sounds like a scam. They know that all this money belongs to someone with a social security # ending in the 4 numbers of yours, but they don't know your whole SSN? I would think the state of florida would have that on record if they knew that much about you already. . .

    Anyway, like they said, call the numbers first and talk to some real people at the actual state offices before you go giving SSNs and cash. . .

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  • RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    it really sounds like a scam

    but yes definitely call a number that you KNOW if a real florida department of financial services or some other similar branch

    can you call these numbers and ask them WHY you're getting $texas?

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  • GanluanGanluan Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Namel3ss wrote: »
    Right off, it sounds like a scam. They know that all this money belongs to someone with a social security # ending in the 4 numbers of yours, but they don't know your whole SSN? I would think the state of florida would have that on record if they knew that much about you already. . .

    Anyway, like they said, call the numbers first and talk to some real people at the actual state offices before you go giving SSNs and cash. . .

    They wouldn't send the whole # - what if they sent it to the wrong person?

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  • RBachRBach Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I personally believe this reeks of scam, but based on what others are saying it looks legit. http://www.fl.gov redirects to the http://www.myflorida.com/ site. You can find a link to http://www.fldfs.com/ on the My Florida page, and it has a variety of numbers on their contact page at http://www.myfloridacfo.com/Contact/. I'd call one of those numbers first before any of the numbers listed on the letter you received.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Most every state has a system set up so that people can claim money that is theirs. If someone dies, or if the state was custodian for someone for a period of time, there's the possibility that money may be "stuck in the system."

    Note that just because you received a note doesn't mean there's any money. You can google "unclaimed funds" and see that there's a ton of websites around. http://www.unclaimed.org/ is a national one.

    Also note that the scam with these things is typically a fee or a percentage in order to get any potential funds you have. For instance, a website charging you $10 to search the (freely available) databases. Or, will search for free but then charge you $50 or 5% to do all the paperwork for you. If any money is found, you should be able to claim it with no fees (or minor processing fees paid directly to the state).

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  • hoodie13hoodie13 punch bro Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Well, I just called the CFO's number and they did provide me with pretty much all the information I needed. They verified that the website is legitimate and is directly connected to the Florida CFO. I've also done a bunch of research online and everything i see says that the website is legit. There's no finder's fee or percentage they're asking for, it just looks like it took a looooong time to find me. I am, of course, a bit worried about my identity possibly being stolen, but I figure I'll just make sure to watch my credit for any strange authorizations or inquiries over the next six months or so, and dispute anything I don't recognize.

    Thanks for your thoughts and ideas, looks like this is going to turn out extremely well!

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  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Classy Monster Kitteh Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Ugh. Obvious scam is obvious.

    If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, but smells like a skunk... it's a skunk. Or a scam. They don't need to take a chunk of your non-existant $texas- they were after your SSN and birth certificate. Which apparently they now have. The state of Florida could just tap into the government SSN database, run a search for the social security number, and chased it down that way.

    I'd look into ID theft protection, and prep to prevent as much damage as possible.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    hoodie13 wrote: »
    Well, I just called the CFO's number and they did provide me with pretty much all the information I needed. They verified that the website is legitimate and is directly connected to the Florida CFO. I've also done a bunch of research online and everything i see says that the website is legit. There's no finder's fee or percentage they're asking for, it just looks like it took a looooong time to find me. I am, of course, a bit worried about my identity possibly being stolen, but I figure I'll just make sure to watch my credit for any strange authorizations or inquiries over the next six months or so, and dispute anything I don't recognize.

    Thanks for your thoughts and ideas, looks like this is going to turn out extremely well!

    did you call any other state agencies to see if this is legit?

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  • RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    you didn't crosscheck it with known florida organizations?


    ugh man

    if you get the money hooray but
    I don't think you're gonna get anything other than a stolen identitiy

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2009
    the State of Nebraska owes me more than 400$. The treasurer is holding onto it, and they won't hand it over until I give them a pay stab and/or my social security card copy, even though they're the government and technically have all that info anyway. (I haven't gotten around to collecting it due to various things)

    You should be fine.

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  • TiBTiB Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    hoodie13 wrote: »
    So I checked my mail yesterday and saw a letter from Florida, but I didn't open it until 30 minutes ago. I kinda wish I did. Here's what it says:
    This is an official mailing from the State of Florida, Department of Financial Services.

    We believe you may own unclaimed funds currently being held by this office. If the last four digits of your Social Security number are [they put the correct digits here], you are very likely entitled to the account(s) described on the enclosed claim form.

    [blah blah blah about the Chief Financial Officer of the State of Florida]

    We want to return these funds to you.

    To file a claim, please follow the instructions on the enclosed claim form and return it, completed, along with a copy of your valid photo identification. It is important that you fill the form out completely and include all of the requested documentation with your initial submission. This will ensure prompt processing of your claim. Claims filed without the required information and documentation cannot be processed (Chapter 717, Florida Statutes).

    Love,

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  • Kipling217Kipling217 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I won close to a million Euro last week.

    Got a real life letter in the post.

    Apparently I was entered a lottery in Spain and won.

    All they needed was my passport id and account number to transfer the money.


    Sounds familliar?

    Just because it came as a letter, does not mean it can't be a scam. And in real life it usualy is.
    Check it out if you want, but check it with other Florida organisations as well. If they can't tell you why you are owed the money its usualy a scam. If the cash sum sounds to large for you to not know about it in your finances its probably a scam.

    My letter ended up in the trash after I read it.

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  • Kipling217Kipling217 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Not trying to be rude by the way.

    I am just of the opinion that good things rarely happend to good people without a lot of work.

    "The light at the end of the tunnel is usualy an oncoming train"

    Hope it works out.

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    wikipedia lists myflorida.com as the official state site.

    by searching that site for FLtreasurehunt I came across this document on a .gov web address.

    http://www.flsenate.gov/data/Publications/2007/Senate/reports/interim_reports/pdf/2007-203bi.pdf

    and I quote:

    The Florida Disposition of Unclaimed Property Act
    (Chapter 717, F.S.) provides the statutory procedure for
    the escheat (reversion) and disposition of presumed
    abandoned property to the state. The Department of
    Financial Services (Department) administers the Act,
    through its Bureau of Unclaimed Property (Bureau).
    Section 717.118, F.S., places an obligation on the state
    to notify owners of unclaimed property accounts valued
    at over $250, in a cost-effective manner, including
    through attempts to directly contact the owner.
    Representatives from the Department indicate that
    multiple means are often used to find an owner, and a
    state website exists, www.fltreasurehunt.org, where
    unclaimed property can be found.

    If this was a scam then it is a government endorsed scam.

    Congrats to the OP, you really have nothing to worry about.

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  • WezoinWezoin Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Almost definitely a scam, better send me the cash when it shows up so I can check for you.

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  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    This was on the news in Florida when they started the program. It is not a scam, but that is not to say that scammers aren't pretending to be from the program somehow. But it seems like the OP checked everything so best of luck with the newfound wealth.

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Wezoin wrote: »
    Almost definitely a scam, better send me the cash when it shows up so I can check for you.

    yeah, or you could try reading the thread and note how its not....

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  • NoxyNoxy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    Wezoin wrote: »
    Almost definitely a scam, better send me the cash when it shows up so I can check for you.

    yeah, or you could try reading the thread and note how its not....

    Whoooosh.

    Also. Keep us updated. I want to know how this turns out.

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  • WezoinWezoin Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Fonjo wrote: »
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    Wezoin wrote: »
    Almost definitely a scam, better send me the cash when it shows up so I can check for you.

    yeah, or you could try reading the thread and note how its not....

    Whoooosh.

    Also. Keep us updated. I want to know how this turns out.

    I'm glad at least one person got it.

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  • PracticalProblemSolverPracticalProblemSolver Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    After seeing this thread I looked myself up on my states database and looks like I have two unclaimed items, both sent to weird misspellings of my street name. :)

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  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Classy Monster Kitteh Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Well, better to be safe than sorry, especially these days. You can't be too careful with your personal info.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    well FUCK
    i need to live in florida
    five years ago

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I searched my state's database and got jack squat. I demand to know why hoodie13 deserves $texas. I do not hate on you or your phat lootz but I must know for what reason you are entitled to said lootz. Especially if the sum is so, ahem, vast.

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  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    OP please follow up with the details of this endeavor.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    OP please follow up with the details of this endeavor.

    IE, a picture of you in your new golden motor boat with your new supermodel wife.

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  • Zombie NirvanaZombie Nirvana Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Texas has a similar program for unclaimed funds. Sounds legit and you've done you research. Not all "free" money is a scam. Just 99% of it. :)

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    We'll be waiting a while for an update if any. I did a massive search through unclaimed.org a few months ago and it took about 6 weeks for my aunt to get her checky check.

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Oh yeah, and all state comptroller's offices can be clickeyed through unclaimed.org. It's not a bad way to waste work time, lol

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  • hoodie13hoodie13 punch bro Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    When I called the CFO's office, I asked if the representative had any experience with letters and people calling in asking if it was legitimate. She said in a very exasperated voice, "Yes, pretty much every day." She went on to say that basically everyone who gets a letter calls in and is immediately wary and wants to know everything about this program.

    She walked me through some stuff, like me giving her my name and her telling me my claim number, which matched the number on the letter I received, as well as the amount of the unclaimed funds. She did all of that without me telling her the data I had on my copy of the letter, aside from my name and her asking if the last four of the social that she had was correct (That exchange went like this: "Is the last four of your social XXXX?" "Yes."). She also verified the address that they had mailed the claim to, and the address that was on file for me fifteen years ago.

    She also gave me information on the length of time I can expect. Apparently when they say "It could take up to 90 days" they aren't kidding. She said that at this time the Bureau was working claims from July 29th. So, pretty close to the 90 days.

    My question is whether or not I'll be required to pay taxes on this. My reasoning on why I may not is that apparently this was always my money, just forgotten about? But if so, I'd REALLY like to have the funds before the end of the year so that I can just go ahead and pay them when I file in January, instead of possibly having to pay them next year.

    In any case, while of course I haven't received the money yet, I remain hopeful. Maybe good things do randomly happen?

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    hoodie13 wrote: »
    When I called the CFO's office, I asked if the representative had any experience with letters and people calling in asking if it was legitimate. She said in a very exasperated voice, "Yes, pretty much every day." She went on to say that basically everyone who gets a letter calls in and is immediately wary and wants to know everything about this program.

    She walked me through some stuff, like me giving her my name and her telling me my claim number, which matched the number on the letter I received, as well as the amount of the unclaimed funds. She did all of that without me telling her the data I had on my copy of the letter, aside from my name and her asking if the last four of the social that she had was correct (That exchange went like this: "Is the last four of your social XXXX?" "Yes."). She also verified the address that they had mailed the claim to, and the address that was on file for me fifteen years ago.

    She also gave me information on the length of time I can expect. Apparently when they say "It could take up to 90 days" they aren't kidding. She said that at this time the Bureau was working claims from July 29th. So, pretty close to the 90 days.

    My question is whether or not I'll be required to pay taxes on this. My reasoning on why I may not is that apparently this was always my money, just forgotten about? But if so, I'd REALLY like to have the funds before the end of the year so that I can just go ahead and pay them when I file in January, instead of possibly having to pay them next year.

    In any case, while of course I haven't received the money yet, I remain hopeful. Maybe good things do randomly happen?

    it depends on what kind of money it was. for instance, if it was payroll money, you already paid taxes on it.

    if it was interest money, you probably have to pay taxes on it.

    talk to an accountant would be my guess.

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  • theterrantheterran Registered User new member
    Years past the original activity on this thread, I received a similar letter from a 3rd party "service company" regarding unclaimed property held in my name by the state of Florida. This thread helped lead me to useful information and resources, so I'm posting back my experience in hopes of helping others.

    It seems that, whether via legitimate channels or questionable methods, third parties can and do sometimes gain access to unclaimed property records from the State of Florida (and perhaps other states as well?). The letter I received was not from the State of Florida's official Bureau of Unclaimed Property, but from a company that offered to reclaim my property for a fee. Like the OP, I contacted the CFO's office directly using contact information discovered both via myflorida.com and the (despite the scammy-sounding name, wholly legitimate) unclaimed property site at www.fltreasurehunt.org.

    The claim form and process were very straightforward, and after submitting the claim with supporting materials and identifying information, I received a check for the full amount of my (previously) unclaimed property. The turnaround time was about 11 weeks. Mine wasn't a vast sum, but every penny was returned.

    While some of the third party service companies might actually legitimately process your claim for you and return your property, I certainly would not take the risk of handing over sensitive identifying information to an unknown private entity. If you think you might have unclaimed property, verify the validity at the source, then complete and submit the claim form yourself directly to the state's claims address. For me, this turned out exactly as hoped: the full amount of my unclaimed (and previously unknown) property was returned within the stated 90 day processing period.

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