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i'm looking into getting one, but don't know what to look for or what is important. when it comes to response time, contrast ratios, brightness, and all that stuff, what are the minimums i should be looking at? what brands should be avoided and what are the best right now? i want something in the 20-23 inch range, and can spend up to $800 (though the less the better).
Dell and Samsung (since they're the same panel). An 8ms response time is excellent. 500:1 contrast ratio is nice, 1000:1 is excellent. I have a Dell 20.1 inch WS panel, I've had it for a year, and I'm extremely satisfied with it. At the time I got it, it was on sale for something like $380, but usually runs around $500. Or at least did, the last time I checked.
I a Dell Ultrasharp 20 in widescreen (2007WFP) for Christmas. I absolutely love it, amazing picture quality, good adjustability on the stand, overall very nice. The only LCD I have seen that I was more impressed with was the Apple Cinema Display, but this comes really close.
Make sure your videocard has DVI out, rather than VGA. It doesn't make much sense to get a brand new LCD that you can't even take full advantage of.
ViscountalphaThe pen is mightier than the swordhttp://youtu.be/G_sBOsh-vyIRegistered Userregular
edited December 2006
I've been wrestling with this question as well. I've looked at a few models.
Samsung 204BW 20 inch $306.50
Samsung 225BW 22inch $409.00
(What I think I really want)
Acer AL2216WBD 22inch $349.00
Acer Al2016WBD 20inch $253.00
(Local prices, from local shop. In before newegg suggestions)
I did see a neat sceptre 22inch with 1200 to 1 contrast on newegg. I don't know though. Those other prices are local since I'd like to walk up and just buy it on the spot.
I'd like the samsung 22incher but that sceptre one sounds really hot too with an hdmi port. I have a friend who bought the 225bw and he loves it for his mac.
I've been wrestling with this question as well. I've looked at a few models.
Samsung 204BW 20 inch $306.50
Samsung 225BW 22inch $409.00
(What I think I really want)
Acer AL2216WBD 22inch $349.00
Acer Al2016WBD 20inch $253.00
(Local prices, from local shop. In before newegg suggestions)
I did see a neat sceptre 22inch with 1200 to 1 contrast on newegg. I don't know though. Those other prices are local since I'd like to walk up and just buy it on the spot.
I'd like the samsung 22incher but that sceptre one sounds really hot too with an hdmi port. I have a friend who bought the 225bw and he loves it for his mac.
I've heard great reviews about that acer 22 inch, and I think the only thing I would like better than that is their 24 inch model:
There's the 24" BenQ with full HD support (native res of 1920x1200), HDMI and component inputs and of course HDCP support - at newegg at ~$800. Be sure to get the newer version of it though, as the older ones don't have options for aspect retention and 1:1 pixel mapping (ie. everything that's not native res will be stretched).
It uses a P-MVA matrix so it isn't as fast as S-IPS monitors with the worst response being in the darkest tones. The reviews I read though suggest that this isn't really a problem when playing games...
The 20" NEC LCD20WGX2 is supposed to be pretty good too, it uses an "overdriven" S-IPS matrix that lowers the response time to fast TN-F matrices, but at the same time offers much better viewing angles and colour reproduction. I think it uses some glossy overlay though, which might be irritating if you have light sources opposite where you'll be using it; OTOH it's supposed to make the picture look nicer.
It's rather expensive in the US though, in fact I have trouble finding it, and the only froogle result places it at $650. Newegg has the 20WMGX2, but I'm not sure what the differences are, apart from the TV tuner in the "M" version.
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I've been wrestling with this question as well. I've looked at a few models.
Samsung 204BW 20 inch $306.50
Samsung 225BW 22inch $409.00
(What I think I really want)
I've narrowed it down, But the 225bw is currently unavailable for the time being, Is the 20 incher the same if the native resolution 1650x1050. does the extra 2 inches really make that much of a diffrence, also.. Theres the 215TW/BW which is a bit more then the 22inch but makes up for it in other ways because of all of the ports on the back. It basically replaces my need for an hdtv.
*shrug* anyone have one of these three and could tell me which way I should lean towards?
yeah I'm on the market for a new LCD monitor as well.
getting a 19" LCD with 5ms or less seems to be the cheapest and smartest idea as I already have a 19" monitor so they would match, but part of me wants a "bigger" 20.1 or 22" screen, potentially replacing my need for an HDTV in the near future.
I have an all in wonder X800 puttering along in my box so I know I have the output potential, something tells me the extra 2 inches wide IS worth it.
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ViscountalphaThe pen is mightier than the swordhttp://youtu.be/G_sBOsh-vyIRegistered Userregular
yeah I'm on the market for a new LCD monitor as well.
getting a 19" LCD with 5ms or less seems to be the cheapest and smartest idea as I already have a 19" monitor so they would match, but part of me wants a "bigger" 20.1 or 22" screen, potentially replacing my need for an HDTV in the near future.
I have an all in wonder X800 puttering along in my box so I know I have the output potential, something tells me the extra 2 inches wide IS worth it.
I would say height+wide makes it that much more valuable imho. some of these 19inch widescreens seem kinda dinky, but the 20, 21,22 inchers seem that much bigger because of the ratio.
*insta update(
I heard there might be some issues with that sceptre 22inch gamer monitor. Costco has a better price then newegg but the costco person told me they are getting 7 units and then returning those 7 units back, so they are phasing them out for some reason or another.
Everyones out of the 225bw and the acers are eliminated only because the older models don't do HDCP.
Grrr frustrating not being able to even find what you want
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ViscountalphaThe pen is mightier than the swordhttp://youtu.be/G_sBOsh-vyIRegistered Userregular
edited January 2007
Ok, I decided. I bought the sceptre from costco. I hope I made the right decision.
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Make sure your videocard has DVI out, rather than VGA. It doesn't make much sense to get a brand new LCD that you can't even take full advantage of.
Samsung 204BW 20 inch $306.50
Samsung 225BW 22inch $409.00
(What I think I really want)
Acer AL2216WBD 22inch $349.00
Acer Al2016WBD 20inch $253.00
(Local prices, from local shop. In before newegg suggestions)
I did see a neat sceptre 22inch with 1200 to 1 contrast on newegg. I don't know though. Those other prices are local since I'd like to walk up and just buy it on the spot.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824112005
I'd like the samsung 22incher but that sceptre one sounds really hot too with an hdmi port. I have a friend who bought the 225bw and he loves it for his mac.
I've heard great reviews about that acer 22 inch, and I think the only thing I would like better than that is their 24 inch model:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824009089
GREAT contrast ratio and view angles, as well as a supposed crisp and clear image. If I won the lottery, I would be all over two of those bad boys...
first search result pulled this up
http://www.saveateagle.com/t6133-v000.html?ovchn=OTHER&ovcpn=Froogle&ovcrn=2405FPW-N&ovtac=CMP
they say any orders for that also get bumoed up to the 2407 model which had HDCP (my 2405 doesn't )
It uses a P-MVA matrix so it isn't as fast as S-IPS monitors with the worst response being in the darkest tones. The reviews I read though suggest that this isn't really a problem when playing games...
Here's an article on it, with links to reviews.
The 20" NEC LCD20WGX2 is supposed to be pretty good too, it uses an "overdriven" S-IPS matrix that lowers the response time to fast TN-F matrices, but at the same time offers much better viewing angles and colour reproduction. I think it uses some glossy overlay though, which might be irritating if you have light sources opposite where you'll be using it; OTOH it's supposed to make the picture look nicer.
It's rather expensive in the US though, in fact I have trouble finding it, and the only froogle result places it at $650. Newegg has the 20WMGX2, but I'm not sure what the differences are, apart from the TV tuner in the "M" version.
At night, the ice weasels come."
getting a 19" LCD with 5ms or less seems to be the cheapest and smartest idea as I already have a 19" monitor so they would match, but part of me wants a "bigger" 20.1 or 22" screen, potentially replacing my need for an HDTV in the near future.
I have an all in wonder X800 puttering along in my box so I know I have the output potential, something tells me the extra 2 inches wide IS worth it.
I would say height+wide makes it that much more valuable imho. some of these 19inch widescreens seem kinda dinky, but the 20, 21,22 inchers seem that much bigger because of the ratio.
*insta update(
I heard there might be some issues with that sceptre 22inch gamer monitor. Costco has a better price then newegg but the costco person told me they are getting 7 units and then returning those 7 units back, so they are phasing them out for some reason or another.
Everyones out of the 225bw and the acers are eliminated only because the older models don't do HDCP.
Grrr frustrating not being able to even find what you want