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If a riot shield user doesn't have a throwing knife,you can just run towards him,even let him hit you once and then just strafe to the side a bit and knife him.
Also,because of lag, a riot shield user usually has a hard time of actually looking in the right direction.
I have and have been knifed multiple times when thinking I was looking directly at them.
Basically,their biggest flaw is that they need two melee hits to kill you and that they usually crouch making them slow. Just run up to them and use the time their melee immobilizes them to flank them and either stab or shoot them. It usually works,if your ping is good.
Well, maybe break was the wrong term, but from my experience bullets will penetrate the shield if it takes too much damage. Either that, or I'm getting shot from an angle that my shield isn't protecting me against, but from some of my deaths, it just seems like bullets simply went through the shield.
I unlocked it after last night's escapades. If you take the USP and stopping power, it's easy 2-3 shot kills. I was having so much fun by the end of it I had trouble switching back to the hbar.
Also, take a throwing knife. If there's 3 guys in a room, you can't take em all out with your pistol. You can, however, throwing knife one and have the second guy down before the third guy knows what's going on, and dispatch him at your leisure.
THAT is the true strength of the throwing knife - giving you a free kill and an extra second of action when you come up on an enemy group.
Well, the goal was pistol challenges, so a throwing knife kill doesn't help much with that
I know what you are talking about, but it isn't that the shield is 'breaking' so much as they are piercing its protection. I don't know if small parts of you are still exposed, or if FMJ can negate the shield. Seeing as how IW likes their hard counters in MW2 and FMJ is sort of a shoddy attachment, I'd say it is the latter. Though I have zero evidence to back this belief up.
Well I think the point is that it *is* overpowered, but only in very specific situations. There are a lot of ways to deal with a riot shield, but a lot of them are situational:
1) If you can: get a team-mate
2) If you can: run around them
3) If you can: flank them
4) If you can: grenade them (launched from your gun is easiest)
But the instance when It's you and him, alone, in a hallway, or near a capture point that you can't run away from, It's nearly impossible to deal with them. That's kinda the point.
That's not your shield breaking,that's lag.
On your screen you are looking directly at the enemy while on his screen you are looking a bit sideways and he is shooting your body.
Check the killcam,it's usually always the case.
So far the best tactic I've found is to just be around teammates. I ran into a shield once and just turned around and ran, he followed slowly and walked into a hail of teammate gunfire.
In hardcore mode the riot shield can kill with one hit.
So I usually just run from them if I don't have a good strategy available for killing them.
Well,yeah,in hardcore it's a one hit kill.
I was just going by the usual playmode which is NOT hardcore.
Standard grenades are really a pretty poor counter. Even noob tubes are somewhat meh. The riot shield still protects against frontal arc explosions, so you can usually mitigate either of those. Better than bullets though.
The real threat is flanking. If you cannot flank, a semtex on the shield is a death sentance.
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Also, any other RPD aficionados in the house?
i had this problem in ground war domination on high rise. the other team was a aclan and they just camped the last point we had and just kept raping us as we tried to exit our side.
i think this is why in team death match the spawning is more random.
When a team is spawn-camping, I'll switch to my ninja build and try to get to an unoccupied area of the map to get my team to spawn on me. Works 80% of the time.
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I just leave matches like this. It's also the reason why I typically avoid going into any game mode other than TDM, FFA or Ground War unless I have a group of friends that I'm playing with. There's too many players on XBL that treat every playlist like it's a deathmatch.
If I wanted a farm fest death match I'd play one of the playlists meant for that.
we sometimes have guns.
sometimes....
:x stop telling people how to kill me
FMJ increases bullet penetration, which works out to mean that bullets lose less damage potential when passing through objects. FMJ does not increase the potential damage of bullets in any other way.
And the RPD rocks. It's just as good as it was in MW1. I've been trying out the AUG lately tho and it does seem to be quite a bit better.
Not mine, it's so friggin hard imo to use in hardcore. I can't use the damn thing in hardcore. I need to practice with a friend I think. I can own 2 guys in regular as long as I'm facing both of them. On the other hand, I can't deal with one spraying at me in HC, no matter how dead center, crouched, and low I keep my head. some random toe shot gets me or they take a step to the right and usualy bareable tiny lag hits take me out.
Not sure if this has been brought up, but if you have 2 classes with One Man Army with claymores, or even if just one of them has claymores, you can have 2 of them with you wherever you go, and you can plant them as many times as you want. Only the 2 most recently planted will remain though. I'm sure there's better perk combos out there, but I have all of my classes outfitted with OMA atm. Switch to my silenced 50-cal after claymores are planted up, if I think someone is comming switch to akimbo smg's. If I need to go to a new location hit up my assault w/grenades class. Shield is in the mix as well for when I'm in confined spaces without fear of being flanked.
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You don't have a gun when your shield is out and when you switch to the gun I just laugh and shoot.
Well,as long as lag doesn't allow you to switch before your animation plays on my side,then I die and you laugh.
There's just so much attributed to invisible lag that I have a hard time accepting my scores.
I mean
really, put some damn spikes on that bad boy.
Dont know why they had to make it on child-safe plexi-glass.
If there were big ass spikes on it I'd accept the tremendous killing power of the shield.
Are you crouching? Your feet are shootable if you're standing.
Baker was absolutely owning with the AUG in hardcore last night.
Gimmie some rockin shoulder pads, too. Some mighty pauldrons and such.
And can i get some goddamn armoured shoes I mean goddamn.
Know what? Put me in an entire suit of armour. With a jetpack.
Gimmie wings and a beamsword too.
Might as well make that shit 20 stories tall.
Some missile payloads all popping out of my chest.
Chaingun fingers.
Maybe a slightly bigger shield.
Crouched entering a doorway and crouched in a corner with my back to the wall. Still died somehow from people shooting me straight on. I'm just going to attribute these experiences to lag and I must've been exposed in some way.
Sweet, I was kicking ass with it on Domination.
I'm gonna have to try the silencer on this beast.
The only time I have ever seen it be effective is when the shield wielder has a nimble and smart gunner in tow.
That's what he had. Silenced.
To each their own, but I find a suppressed LMG is often more trouble than it's worth. Though I did use a suppressed MG4 with a HBS module for a while.