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Kasavin left Gamespot!

KiwistrikeKiwistrike Registered User regular
edited January 2007 in Games and Technology
I know some of you might not care at all, but this is a pretty big deal, I think. I always thought of Gamespot as the best of the big media sites, and Greg Kasavin was a big part of that reason.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2007/01/03/news_6163716.html

The story says that he was finally able to pursue his goal of game development, which I think is awesome. Its pretty inspiring, actually, to think that if you try hard enough you can get into the notoriously competitive industry even without going the CSE route.

Anyway, Im interested to see how the future of Gamespot pans out, as Kasavin was a huge reason for the success of the site, in my opinion.

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  • EndomaticEndomatic Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    He's the only guy I know of there.

    So now, there's no reason to even give a shit about gamespot.

    And by "know" I mean, I know his name, not that I give any sort of a shit.

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  • Recoil42Recoil42 Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Good riddance.

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  • bongibongi regular
    edited January 2007
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    sort of relevant and also funny

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  • VothVoth Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Why, oh why, was it not Jeff Gerstman that left instead?

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  • SkyGheNeSkyGheNe Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    That is fucked up. But good for him...sigh.

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  • AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Now the lazy fatguy needs to leave

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  • Bew! Bew! Bew!Bew! Bew! Bew! Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I can't imagine it being that hard for a bigshot like him to get into the industry. Developers like to snatch up reviewers and the like for game design positions all the time. More than likely he had been getting offers for a while now, and finally decided that gamespot just isn't worth it.

    Pretty cool though, I wonder what he'll be working on.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Good. No more mumbling video reviews.

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  • LCDXXLCDXX A flask of wood and glass Terre Haute, INRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    Recoil42 wrote:
    Good riddance.

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  • Cornell002Cornell002 Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Jeff, Greg, Rich and Ryan were all awesome

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  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    Who? Where?

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  • HozHoz Cool Cat Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    So harsh.

    But there's a part of me that pities the game developing studio he left gamespot to join. I mean, how lacking in talent can they be that Kasavin is seen as an asset? What exactly would he fucking do?

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  • Marty81Marty81 Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I didn't know people actually liked Gamespot?

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  • Cornell002Cornell002 Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Hoz wrote:
    So harsh.

    But there's a part of me that pities the game developing studio he left gamespot to join. I mean, how lacking in talent can they be that Kasavin is seen as an asset. What exactly would he fucking do?

    Quality Control?

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  • TheFonzTheFonz Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    apotheos wrote:
    Who? Where?
    He was one of the Gamespot reviewer guys.
    He talked funny.

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  • Bew! Bew! Bew!Bew! Bew! Bew! Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Hoz wrote:
    But there's a part of me that pities the game developing studio he left gamespot to join. I mean, how lacking in talent can they be that Kasavin can fill that hole. What exactly would he fucking do?

    Developers like to get reviewers since they "know" what makes and breaks a good game (or so the developers think, anyways). They're more or less put in advisory positions to hand out well, advice.

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  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Meh. At this point, all the "online videogame journalists" tend to blend together because their opinions are so cookie-cutter that there's about 3 degrees of mediocrity between The Good and The Bad reviewers. If ever there was an industry that was so filled with replaceable, me-too chum, this is it.

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  • liquidloganliquidlogan Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I thought I might want to point out that when GameSpot had a contest about submitting a game design, meaning, an entire written document outlining every major aspect of the game, Greg annonymously submitted entries twice. And won. So if anybody was to leave GameSpot to join the ranks of game designers, it was going to be Greg.

    Best of luck to him, I say.

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  • DirtchamberDirtchamber Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Developers like to get reviewers since they "know" what makes and breaks a good game (or so the developers think, anyways). They're more or less put in advisory positions to hand out well, advice.

    Do you ... do you actually have any sources for this? Because I've been working as a games journo for almost seven years now, and in that time, I've only known one other journalist who got offered a job at a developer. And he'd been in the industry for twelve years.

    Distributors, on the other hand, are a whole different bag. Heaps of games journos end up at distributors - mostly as PR flunkies.

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  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I like that being featured in a PA comic is listed as one of his credentials.

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Hoz wrote:
    But there's a part of me that pities the game developing studio he left gamespot to join. I mean, how lacking in talent can they be that Kasavin can fill that hole. What exactly would he fucking do?

    Developers like to get reviewers since they "know" what makes and breaks a good game (or so the developers think, anyways). They're more or less put in advisory positions to hand out well, advice.
    Here's some free advice to any game company that might be listening. There are only two things you need to ask to figure out if your game is good or not.

    1.) Is your game fun?
    2.) If your game is fun, is it stable enough to stay fun?

    See, 80% or more of all games totally miss #1 there. Of the 20% that manage to slip by, half of them forget #2, and I end up falling through the floor, or getting stuck in walls, or redoing segments because the game froze. Man, I should work for a major game developer.

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  • slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Developers like to snatch up reviewers and the like for game design positions all the time.


    No wonder there are so many shitty games out there.

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  • Bew! Bew! Bew!Bew! Bew! Bew! Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Developers like to get reviewers since they "know" what makes and breaks a good game (or so the developers think, anyways). They're more or less put in advisory positions to hand out well, advice.

    Do you ... do you actually have any sources for this? Because I've been working as a games journo for almost seven years now, and in that time, I've only known one other journalist who got offered a job at a developer. And he'd been in the industry for twelve years.

    Well I know a guy who worked for EGM for a while, quit then took up an offer to work on a game. It wasn't a permanent position mind you. He said it was quite common, and what better source for such information than a guy who has done it himself.

    It should also be noted that this game was a low budget title that was pretty sucky. I didn't say it was common for good developers to hire journalists.

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  • AHH!AHH! Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Ok now my only reason to go to Gamespot left.

    oh well.

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  • HozHoz Cool Cat Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    There's that ex-journalist who works for Kojima. But it makes complete sense. He speaks Japanese and advises them about the American gaming market.

    Maybe Kasavin has a quality about him that we just aren't aware of that would be an asset to game development (I'm thinking "no he fucking doesn't" as I type this, the evils of presumption).

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  • bongibongi regular
    edited January 2007
    so what favourite games did he mark down for you to all hate him?

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  • DirtchamberDirtchamber Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Hoz wrote:
    There's that ex-journalist who works for Kojima. But it makes complete sense. He speaks Japanese and advises them about the American gaming market.

    Are you talking about Tim Rogers? He doesn't actually work for Kojima, does he? I just thought they were ... I dunno ... friends or something.

    Back on topic: I hope Kasavin's replacement isn't as insufferably humourless as he was. Maybe now the rest of the editorial staff can drop this whole "objective games journalism" shit and actually produce some entertaining content once in a while. (Boy, wouldn't that be something!)

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  • SkyGheNeSkyGheNe Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    bongi wrote:
    so what favourite games did he mark down for you to all hate him?

    Seriously.

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  • LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    bongi wrote:
    so what favourite games did he mark down for you to all hate him?

    GERSHMAN DIDN'T GIVE ZELDA 130%! OMFG!

    I like Gamespot's podcast output. It's orders of magnitude funnier and better than most, and certainly the best about games.

    Kasavin leaving for development? It's not unheard of for journos to go that way as a game designer thing, but you do essentially go from one low-paid job to another low-paid job (relative to the rest of the IT industry), so you really gotta love it.

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  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    bongi wrote:
    so what favourite games did he mark down for you to all hate him?

    MGS3, though I'm sure there are more.

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  • HozHoz Cool Cat Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    bongi wrote:
    so what favourite games did he mark down for you to all hate him?
    I don't even remember. At some point I just developed a grudge over something he wrote. The grudge stuck but the memory of the infraction passed away.

    Edit: Oh God nevermind it hit me like a train now. I bought Black and White because of his review. That miserable son of a bitch is the devil!

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Hoz wrote:
    bongi wrote:
    so what favourite games did he mark down for you to all hate him?
    I don't even remember. At some point I just developed a grudge over something he wrote. The grudge stuck but the memory of the infraction passed away.

    Edit: Oh God nevermind it hit me like a train now. I bought Black and White because of his review. That miserable son of a bitch is the devil!

    Oh man, that purchase still scars me to this day. But there wasn't a single review saying otherwise.

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  • Dangerou-DaveDangerou-Dave __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2007
    Hoz wrote:
    There's that ex-journalist who works for Kojima. But it makes complete sense. He speaks Japanese and advises them about the American gaming market.

    Are you talking about Tim Rogers? He doesn't actually work for Kojima, does he? I just thought they were ... I dunno ... friends or something.

    Back on topic: I hope Kasavin's replacement isn't as insufferably humourless as he was. Maybe now the rest of the editorial staff can drop this whole "objective games journalism" shit and actually produce some entertaining content once in a while. (Boy, wouldn't that be something!)


    Not sure if Tim Rogers is his name, but the guy Hoz is talking about is a producer on the next Metal Gear game.

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  • solsovlysolsovly Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Rook wrote:
    Hoz wrote:
    bongi wrote:
    so what favourite games did he mark down for you to all hate him?
    I don't even remember. At some point I just developed a grudge over something he wrote. The grudge stuck but the memory of the infraction passed away.

    Edit: Oh God nevermind it hit me like a train now. I bought Black and White because of his review. That miserable son of a bitch is the devil!

    Oh man, that purchase still scars me to this day. But there wasn't a single review saying otherwise.

    I still have that "game". Throwing people can only be fun for so long before you go back to the rest of the "game".

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Rook wrote:
    Hoz wrote:
    bongi wrote:
    so what favourite games did he mark down for you to all hate him?
    I don't even remember. At some point I just developed a grudge over something he wrote. The grudge stuck but the memory of the infraction passed away.

    Edit: Oh God nevermind it hit me like a train now. I bought Black and White because of his review. That miserable son of a bitch is the devil!

    Oh man, that purchase still scars me to this day. But there wasn't a single review saying otherwise.

    That's because it's like the game was made for reviewers -- people who play the game for about 5-10 hours max and then write about it. It's pretty cool when you get started, but then just starts throwing feces everywhere.

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  • SkyGheNeSkyGheNe Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Lux wrote:
    bongi wrote:
    so what favourite games did he mark down for you to all hate him?

    MGS3, though I'm sure there are more.

    That's amusing, considering kasavin is a metal gear fanboy.

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  • GaminGamin Brockport, NYRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I think it's interesting that Gamespot sited a Penny Arcade comic, in which Tycho wishes he was cool enough to be friends with this guy, as evidence of how cool that guy is.

    It makes my brain hurt.

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  • BbajBbaj Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Yeah he was pretty much the only reviewer there that I almost listened to. I don't think I can stand anyone else there.

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    "So I hear the editor in chief left Gamespot"
    "Which one is that?"
    "Greg Kasavin?"
    "Is that the fat guy? Or the guy with the funky eyebrow?"
    "He's the balding guy"
    "Sorry, don't know him."

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  • liquidloganliquidlogan Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    The one thing a lot of people hate Kasavin for his his review of the first Splinter Cell, when he gave it a 8.6 mostly because he thought it was too dependent on trial and error. I used to spend some time on an Xbox forum, and god, they had their pitchforks and everything ready.

    Andrew Park, the PC guy, is generally pretty good. I find that Alex Navarro might be the most annoying editor in writing style and just every video is generally irritating. Jeff, though he has made some pretty big screwups, has gotten a lot better since his THPS3 perfect score.

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