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    mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
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    a tiny snip of a wip i really liked and then, uh. didnt

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    ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    i am physically struggling
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    BuckwolfeBuckwolfe Starts With Them, Ends With Us Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Scosglen wrote: »
    You really don't want to know what this particular character was actually doing in the dream.

    Catastrophic blowjob accident?

    There aren't words for just how hilarious that comment is.

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    ObilexObilex Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I never know what to charge for my stuff either, Is there like, a formula that tells you how much stuff is worth? I think my overall modesty when it comes to my art gets the best of me, esp when i still find it hard to believe that somebody wants to pay me for something i already do for fun. And when i look at a lot of your guy's stuff and am blown away by how good it is, I think to myself "now THAT is something people should pay money for, not my crap"

    I am finding the transition from a hobby to a source of income is very difficult to get my head around.

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    ProspicienceProspicience The Raven King DenvemoloradoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Buckwolfe wrote: »
    Scosglen wrote: »
    You really don't want to know what this particular character was actually doing in the dream.

    Catastrophic blowjob accident?

    There aren't words for just how hilarious that comment is.

    There isn't enough lime in this world for how much I agree with you buck.

    Neo: Listen to beavs, that is waaaaay under priced.

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    ObilexObilex Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    oh, and I have this

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    jpegjpeg ODIE, YOUR FACE Scenic Illinois FlatlandsRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    wip of an acrylic painting of my friend as a communist revolutionary. the text is via kind people in h/a translating/transliterating it for me (cheerfulbear for one, if I remember correctly)

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    so I just type in this box and it goes on the screen?
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    MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I'm impressed jpeg, I didn't realise you were so competent with real paint.

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    DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    beavotron wrote: »
    60$?
    god more like 200-300 flat
    for press yes for the love of god, charge more.
    you kids and your low pricing.

    When I get good enough to sell my stuff I am totally gonna be pestering you about it.

    "Hey, how much should I charge for this? Okay, how about this? This??

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    beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    here's the thing about pricing
    everyone thinks "i should charge low so people don't think I'm a dick or something"
    or "I should charge low because this didn't take me that long"

    WRONG
    you have to think of it like this
    "I am capable of doing something that this asshole is incapable of doing. It would take him X number of years of hard work and dedication to get this far therefore, i am going to charge him accordingly. I have decided to make this my living, if this person doesn't understand that I am a working professional not a mcdonald's employee, then fuck him, he can find a lower quality artist who works for cheaper."

    be confident in your work and charge higher
    it gives clients a bad impression if you think your time and skills are worth pennies.

    here's a good way to think about it. what do you think you're worth an hour?
    if this is going to be your living, and you get about 2 clients a month, and each project takes about 2 weeks to complete, what do you have to charge to hit all your bills and have money left over to bank?
    if it's 30$ an hour, charge 40.
    if it's 20$, charge 35$
    buffer yourself because there'll be months where you don't get anything.

    if the project is only going to take me a few hours, I go for the flat rate. Calculate in your head how many hours (say 4) times your hourly rate (let's say 40) then double it. that's 160X2= 220$ for 4 hours of work.
    they don't have to know it's 4 hours.

    the graphic artist's guild has lots of information on this sort of stuff
    also contracts
    if you're not all working with contracts, I am glowering at you.

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    DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Truly, I have much to learn.

    You're like a tornado of knowledge, knocking down all these mental barriers.

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    beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    happy to share :)

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    DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    What about making myself marketable? Once I have the skills?

    These kinds of things need to be in the tutorials thread.

    Break it down.

    An AOB style speech on the usefulness of fundamental study

    A section detailing the finer points of fundamental study, complete with books, ideas for studies (AOB's 30+ hour accuracy study), things to watch for (core shadows, draw using shapes), gestures, tools of the trade, etc etc.

    A short essay on color. Color theory books, design and form books, ideas for studies, techniques and methods (like the one you recently posted), and so forth.

    Composition

    the other stuff.

    Followed by marketing, tips from the working professionals here on the AC, how to formulate contracts, etc.

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    beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    answering this in the q&d thread to clear up the doodle thread for doodles

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    jpegjpeg ODIE, YOUR FACE Scenic Illinois FlatlandsRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    slight update on this, since it got botp'd anyway:

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    close up, with a bit of a glare on it:
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    so I just type in this box and it goes on the screen?
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    DversedDversed Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    My late new years resolution to not lurk on this forum anymore. Here goes


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    ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
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    i think i'm ready to get to work on a background (yes I know this is ass backwards but fuck it) but I really don't like it but I don't have much time

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    FlayFlay Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Projeck wrote: »
    http://i46.tinypic.com/sauv74.png

    i think i'm ready to get to work on a background (yes I know this is ass backwards but fuck it) but I really don't like it but I don't have much time

    His (it's?) right forearm seems a bit weird - as in way too thick. Also, the crest doesn't look like it's wrapping around the top of the head, some of the crest needs to be hidden.

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    ThePacerThePacer Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Service Guarantees Citizenship!

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    Would You Like To Know More?

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    NeoRedXIIINeoRedXIII Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    ...fuck. I knew I should have said at least $120. I tend to divide my minimum in half. Maybe I can recoup with the charge for color and press. I didn't plan on only three colors, bo-ring. I'll see what I can do with three.

    I was working on mock ups already regardless if they continue to work with me. Each more complex than the previous.

    ColorsTest.jpg

    In actuality I did the most complex one first and then went backwards. A mistake I've learned from. I'll definitely have something for my portfolio with this alone anyways.

    jpeg: I can dig it.

    ThePacer: Fuck yeah!

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    ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
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    NeoRedXIIINeoRedXIII Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Good background choice Projeck.

    Continued to work without having been paid yet or anything (nothing else to do really). Someone in the band had a concern with the rotational element their original logo has (seen on MySpace). I had this in mind when I started and decided to mock up an addition to the W to get it closer to the concept. Upside down it seems pretty damn similar in the visual continuity without being monotonous.

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    Guy BellGuy Bell Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The flourish on the "E", as you have it, doesn't have a reason to be there. Normally it would extend naturally from the outer edge of the bottom of the "E". It could easily be fixed if you have time.
    I would also suggest looking at the lettering of B. J. Betts, the tattoo artist. I have all 3 of his books and he goes over all the rules of drawing flourishes to make them flow well with the letters and overall design.

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    LexxyLexxy Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Beavo <333333

    I haven't been drawing really, but here's a crappy comic I did based off an AIM convo I had with that friend I play WoW with:

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    And a superfast commission I did for a high school friend at xmas (sorry for breaking your h-scroll, this is the only version I have uploaded right now):

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    She wanted to get portraits drawn of all the members of her modern d20 campaign party to give to them for xmas. Beavo would cringe at the price, which was lowballed to the max (more as a favor to a friend than anything else, but I do have pricing issues), but she gave me a nice tip on top of the price I asked of her which was a happy surprise :3

    For non-friend work, though, I really need to adopt the practice of using contracts. I've yet to run into any problems, but I don't ever WANT to, so yeah.

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    beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    hey dversed welcome to the forums!
    lovin' your batmans
    post some more!

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    ThaneThane Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    that crappy little comic has awesome pacing slash facial expressions

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    CheerfulBearCheerfulBear Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    jpeg, that's fantastic.

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    F87F87 So Say We All Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Lexxy -- Ahhhh so awesome!! Your line quality and solid construction always get me.

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    Having a lot of trouble getting this angle down. Any thoughts?
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    MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Have you tried three point perspective?

    edit: Like this: http://kidchuckle.deviantart.com/art/streetbot-Finished-148318471

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    F87F87 So Say We All Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I am aware of it... is that the secret?

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    IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited January 2010
    Lexx! Join the PA deviant art group!

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    MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    F87 wrote: »
    Lexxy -- Ahhhh so awesome!! Your line quality and solid construction always get me.

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    Having a lot of trouble getting this angle down. Any thoughts?

    The thing in my edit shows how nice a figure drawn in 3-point perspective can look.

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    BuckwolfeBuckwolfe Starts With Them, Ends With Us Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Lexxy wrote: »
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    Fffffffffuck....that's adorable.
    Kinda Lucky Starish, in the best way possible.

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    NeoRedXIIINeoRedXIII Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Guy Bell wrote: »
    The flourish on the "E", as you have it, doesn't have a reason to be there. Normally it would extend naturally from the outer edge of the bottom of the "E". It could easily be fixed if you have time.
    I would also suggest looking at the lettering of B. J. Betts, the tattoo artist. I have all 3 of his books and he goes over all the rules of drawing flourishes to make them flow well with the letters and overall design.

    I've got the books now, lovely stuff thanks!

    Yeah, I broke that rule so I could get it to do this when one is upside down in comparison:

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    So I was thinking of these little type changes for that upside down legibility and actually making that flourish bigger:

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    Even shaving off the back end of the E a bit or not (AUGH!) I don't necessarily like the inside of the W either:

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    I feel like I'm just thinking about it all too hard now... I just want to screen it on some pretty black paper get it diecut and pin it to the ceiling with the other posters that don't fit on my wall anymore.

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    ThaneThane Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
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    LexxyLexxy Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Thanks guys :3
    Iruka wrote: »
    Lexx! Join the PA deviant art group!

    Ok!

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    IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited January 2010
    Yay! sent you an invite on DA.

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    PROXPROX Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Hrrrk, sweetness overload from lexxy's comic.

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    BuckwolfeBuckwolfe Starts With Them, Ends With Us Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    PROX wrote: »
    Hrrrk, sweetness overload from lexxy's comic.

    I'm pretty sure Lexxy could easily kill a diabetic just by flashing them some of her art.

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    WassermeloneWassermelone Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
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    F87 asked for it, so some process shots under the spoilers. I have a pretty messy process. I don't think I'm very good at the drawing stage, and my painting process is a slow correction of the mistakes I've made. At first I was using a pretty soft brush and was pretty unsatisfied with my progress in step 4. I always have this moment of self doubt in my paintings when I'm being very cautious. Once I stop thinking about it and just go at it (often with a harder brush) things come together fairly quickly to where Im starting to be ok with things in step 5. Selling it with rendering and effects is really the easiest part and where photoshop is at its most powerful. Setting your brush to overlay/color dodge/whatever makes this part really quick. The only thing is to be really really careful about not over doing it.
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