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15.6" laptop screen: 720 or 1080?

nlawalkernlawalker Registered User regular
edited September 2010 in Moe's Stupid Technology Tavern
I'm ordering a Dell Studio 15 (15.6" screen) soon and the only component I haven't made up my mind on is the screen. My options are basically 720P and 1080P; 900 is not an option.

Does anybody have advice one way or the other? I don't really plan on watching anything serious on it or doing a ton of gaming, and it has an HDMI out for when I do want to watch something. It's just that I've heard that Dell's 720P display is of much lower quality than the 1080, but that a 1080 15.6" screen makes everything so damn small. That's not a big problem for things like webpages and docs but we all know that nothing else in Windows scales very well; even text, for which there are scaling options, will end up goofy and out of proportion at anything but the default. The cost isn't really a factor, I just want to get something that is functional and that will last a while.

TIA.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    That is a huge fucking screen and a Dell laptop will not last "a while" by my definition of "a while".
    But I would get the 720 to save the cash. 1080 on a laptop seems a bit silly, even if the laptop if ginormous, especially since you don't plan on doing intense gaming. Are you getting a Bluray drive? As for making things small, that has to do with screen resolution set by your video card. You can make things big on a big screen, or small on a big screen.
    Also, if you run the laptop to a TV, the TVs resolution is important not your laptops.

    What is the price difference? If its more than $50, go 720.

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  • nlawalkernlawalker Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    That is a huge fucking screen

    Is it? That's the smallest Studio they offer, except the ones in the Z series, and I don't care that much about thickness. I'm told the Studio is of much higher quality than the Inspiron.
    a Dell laptop will not last "a while" by my definition of "a while".

    Clearly you're not a fan. What would you recommend? One thing I didn't mention is that I get a hefty (30%) discount on Dells.
    s for making things small, that has to do with screen resolution set by your video card. You can make things big on a big screen, or small on a big screen.

    I want it running in native resolution. The video card is more than up to the task of 1080.
    What is the price difference? If its more than $50, go 720.

    The price difference is $75.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Dell uses some cheap as parts internally, but a 30% discount probably makes up for it. I only have good things to say about their tech support.
    Regarding screen size, I use a 9'' screen, so my mind instantly goes "HOLY SHIT" for something in the teens.

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  • AzioAzio Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    1280x720 is pretty shit for office applications, web browsing, photoshop, etc. It'll get the job done but you may find yourself wishing you had some extra real estate.

    On the other hand, 1920x1080 on a 15" display will make everything very small, so if you wear glasses you might have trouble reading it.

    If it were my choice I would go for the 1920 display.

    edit: 1280x720 means you have to do all your work inside the blue rectangle:
    2m2z0jk.jpg

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  • DaxonDaxon Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Azio wrote: »
    1280x720 is pretty shit for office applications, web browsing, photoshop, etc. It'll get the job done but you may find yourself wishing you had some extra real estate.

    On the other hand, 1920x1080 on a 15" display will make everything very small, so if you wear glasses you might have trouble reading it.

    If it were my choice I would go for the 1920 display.

    edit: 1280x720 means you have to do all your work inside the blue rectangle:
    2m2z0jk.jpg

    What that can't be right.. I'm got a 15'' dell laptop with the resolution set at 1280x800 and that blue square is a helluva lot smaller than my screen. 1280x800 is PLENTY of room for everything you'd want to put in it.

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Yeah, I'm on a 15,4" running 1280x800 and I say that I've got about 25-30 percent more estate than that thing.

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  • LeCausticLeCaustic Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Daxon wrote: »
    Azio wrote: »
    1280x720 is pretty shit for office applications, web browsing, photoshop, etc. It'll get the job done but you may find yourself wishing you had some extra real estate.

    On the other hand, 1920x1080 on a 15" display will make everything very small, so if you wear glasses you might have trouble reading it.

    If it were my choice I would go for the 1920 display.

    edit: 1280x720 means you have to do all your work inside the blue rectangle:
    2m2z0jk.jpg

    What that can't be right.. I'm got a 15'' dell laptop with the resolution set at 1280x800 and that blue square is a helluva lot smaller than my screen. 1280x800 is PLENTY of room for everything you'd want to put in it.


    I cannot see myself going under 1600 resolution, let alone 1280. I have absolutely NO screen real estate with anything below that. I have a 1920 and I would never, ever, go below that. The advantages of the resolution are definitely true.

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  • AzioAzio Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Daxon wrote: »
    Azio wrote: »
    1280x720 is pretty shit for office applications, web browsing, photoshop, etc. It'll get the job done but you may find yourself wishing you had some extra real estate.

    On the other hand, 1920x1080 on a 15" display will make everything very small, so if you wear glasses you might have trouble reading it.

    If it were my choice I would go for the 1920 display.

    edit: 1280x720 means you have to do all your work inside the blue rectangle:
    2m2z0jk.jpg

    What that can't be right.. I'm got a 15'' dell laptop with the resolution set at 1280x800 and that blue square is a helluva lot smaller than my screen. 1280x800 is PLENTY of room for everything you'd want to put in it.
    It's for comparison. You'll notice the total size of the image is 1600x900, not 1920x1080.

    1280x720 is plenty if you enjoy scrolling down all day and don't do any coding or graphics or design. It's fine for netbooks or whatever but for a full size, 15 inch notebook, 1280x720 is a huge compromise.

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  • nlawalkernlawalker Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    LeCaustic wrote: »
    Daxon wrote: »
    Azio wrote: »
    1280x720 is pretty shit for office applications, web browsing, photoshop, etc. It'll get the job done but you may find yourself wishing you had some extra real estate.

    On the other hand, 1920x1080 on a 15" display will make everything very small, so if you wear glasses you might have trouble reading it.

    If it were my choice I would go for the 1920 display.

    edit: 1280x720 means you have to do all your work inside the blue rectangle:
    2m2z0jk.jpg

    What that can't be right.. I'm got a 15'' dell laptop with the resolution set at 1280x800 and that blue square is a helluva lot smaller than my screen. 1280x800 is PLENTY of room for everything you'd want to put in it.


    I cannot see myself going under 1600 resolution, let alone 1280. I have absolutely NO screen real estate with anything below that. I have a 1920 and I would never, ever, go below that. The advantages of the resolution are definitely true.

    On a laptop?

    I switched up to a Studio XPS 16 (which offers a 15.6 1600x900 panel), but it might be a bit more machine than I need and more money than I want to spend so I'm holding off pulling the trigger for now.

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  • DigDug2000DigDug2000 Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Azio wrote: »
    Daxon wrote: »
    Azio wrote: »
    1280x720 is pretty shit for office applications, web browsing, photoshop, etc. It'll get the job done but you may find yourself wishing you had some extra real estate.

    On the other hand, 1920x1080 on a 15" display will make everything very small, so if you wear glasses you might have trouble reading it.

    If it were my choice I would go for the 1920 display.

    edit: 1280x720 means you have to do all your work inside the blue rectangle:
    2m2z0jk.jpg

    What that can't be right.. I'm got a 15'' dell laptop with the resolution set at 1280x800 and that blue square is a helluva lot smaller than my screen. 1280x800 is PLENTY of room for everything you'd want to put in it.
    It's for comparison. You'll notice the total size of the image is 1600x900, not 1920x1080.

    1280x720 is plenty if you enjoy scrolling down all day and don't do any coding or graphics or design. It's fine for netbooks or whatever but for a full size, 15 inch notebook, 1280x720 is a huge compromise.
    I have to agree. I'm writing from a 13in MacBook, 1280x800. Its not.... impossible to use, but it's pretty tough to have more than one window open on screen at a time. If you've got the chance to get more, I'd go for it.

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    That's the new Studio 1557, right? The Core i7 one? I've got the 1555, I wonder whether they fixed the heatsink issue (nothing very serious, just weird - the heatsink copper mysteriously elects not to connect to the GPU. There's a heatsink waiting there to be attached to, it's just not attached to anything. It doesn't impact performance unless the GPU gets really hot and starts to throttle. Weirdly, the 1535 and 1537 didn't have this issue. You can fix this yourself with a 1" piece of copper, but it breaks the warranty).

    I recommend shelling out for the options, if only because trying to upgrade them later is a terrible pain in the wallet (except RAM, which is user-upgradeable). I got the 1366x768 monitor and have regretted it ever since. Should've sprung for 1920x1200 - I can still buy one and install it myself, but it cost'll $200 and it'll break the warranty. D:

    e: someone on the Internets took a photo of their Studio 1555 (this isn't mine, but mine does indeed look like that):
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    the GPU is the big finned heatsink. There's a copper heatpipe that leads towards the CPU heatpipe... and never gets there. Huh? :S

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  • DaxonDaxon Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Azio wrote: »
    Daxon wrote: »
    Azio wrote: »
    1280x720 is pretty shit for office applications, web browsing, photoshop, etc. It'll get the job done but you may find yourself wishing you had some extra real estate.

    On the other hand, 1920x1080 on a 15" display will make everything very small, so if you wear glasses you might have trouble reading it.

    If it were my choice I would go for the 1920 display.

    edit: 1280x720 means you have to do all your work inside the blue rectangle:
    2m2z0jk.jpg

    What that can't be right.. I'm got a 15'' dell laptop with the resolution set at 1280x800 and that blue square is a helluva lot smaller than my screen. 1280x800 is PLENTY of room for everything you'd want to put in it.
    It's for comparison. You'll notice the total size of the image is 1600x900, not 1920x1080.

    1280x720 is plenty if you enjoy scrolling down all day and don't do any coding or graphics or design. It's fine for netbooks or whatever but for a full size, 15 inch notebook, 1280x720 is a huge compromise.

    Yeah I have a 15.4 or whatever inch laptop. 1280x800 is the highest it goes and it works pretty damn well. I don't know what you do but you definitely do not sound like the average user. The vast majority of people don't need 1600x900 let alone 1920x1080. Honestly, that's fucking humongous.

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  • AzioAzio Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I won't deny that 1080 is on the large side for a 15 incher (optimal is probably 1440x900 or 1680x1050). But 1280x800 is seriously garbage at that size of display. Even at 13 inches it's hard to put up with. And it's probably a cheap panel with really shitty contrast. It's a shame they don't offer a middle-of-the-road option.

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Dell normally offers 1600x900 on Studio 15s. It varies by region, but if you push your Dell rep hard enough you may get it anyway.

    It's quite weird, really, but certain regions get more customization options than others.

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  • nlawalkernlawalker Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    ronya wrote: »
    Dell normally offers 1600x900 on Studio 15s. It varies by region, but if you push your Dell rep hard enough you may get it anyway.

    It's quite weird, really, but certain regions get more customization options than others.

    There's not a single 900P Studio 15 option on the site. They offer practically every single 15.6" configuration they have with an optional 1080P screen, which makes me wonder if the usability really isn't too bad. I looked at my 4:3 Thinkpad at work today; it's running at 1400*1050 and is perfectly usable. Is a 15.6" 1920*1080 really much harder to read?

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  • AzioAzio Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Fonts will be very small, but they'll also be very sharp. :D

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    nlawalker wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    Dell normally offers 1600x900 on Studio 15s. It varies by region, but if you push your Dell rep hard enough you may get it anyway.

    It's quite weird, really, but certain regions get more customization options than others.

    There's not a single 900P Studio 15 option on the site. They offer practically every single 15.6" configuration they have with an optional 1080P screen, which makes me wonder if the usability really isn't too bad. I looked at my 4:3 Thinkpad at work today; it's running at 1400*1050 and is perfectly usable. Is a 15.6" 1920*1080 really much harder to read?

    Well, yes, it varies by region. I've read (and have noticed myself) that India and Malaysia tend to get some options earlier, or different options, since Dell's production facilities are apparently located there. The Studio 1555 was sold in India a few months before it hit the US market, for instance.

    Someone here mentions the 900p Studio 1557 he just got. No idea where he is ordering from, though. It's mentioned as being available in the US, weirdly enough.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I don't see what the big deal is re: fonts and icons on a high-res panel. Win7 (and Vista) each have display options that will scale up (but still keep pretty-looking) system font and icon size. You can also manually adjust the DPI of text. That way text is still readable but you can have high res pics or backrounds. This is the only way I can use my HTPC for web browsing. Another 5 minutes of dicking around with settings during your system setup and you'll be happy.

    Browsers also will scale up or down text, while leaving graphics alone. I assume all this functionality is available in other operating systems if that's what you're choosing to run.

    I also think 1280x800 is way too lo-res for a 15-16" screen that's, at most, 2 ft from my face.

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  • PuddlesworthPuddlesworth Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I would definitely go with the 1920x1080 over 1280x720. 1280x720 is frankly shit on a 15+" laptop. 1366x768 might be okay, 1600x900 would probably be best. 1920x1080 might be a little too big but it's definitely doable.
    If those are your only two options, unless you really don't want the extra space, go bigger. You can up the font dpi in windows very easily if you're worried text will be too small.

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I found that pretty much everything in Win 7 scales pretty well.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Visti wrote: »
    I found that pretty much everything in Win 7 scales pretty well.

    This. I'm running a 15.6" ASUS with a 1920x1080 screen. The image is absolutely crisp, and Win7 will scale things properly.

    Then again, I have no icons on my desktop whatsoever (just rainmeter widgets), but web sites look perfectly readable.

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  • desdinovadesdinova Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Buy the small business branded version of the laptop, they'll usually offer non-tv panels for them.

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  • DigDug2000DigDug2000 Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I just bought a laptop of my own to supplement (now my wife's) Macbook. MacBook (13in) has a 1280x800 screen and you really can't fit shit on it and do anything. I mean, after loosing space to menus, titlebars, etc. you can show most of a flash app... but not all of it half the time. And forget having two windows that aren't just folders open side by side. I demanded that the next guy have a 1080p screen, just so I could do actual work. Mine's 16in, but I've never had problems with fonts, and like everyone says, you can always increase your system's font sizes if you need to. That's why they're configurable. Unless you're planning to sit 30 feet away and type in notepad, the whole "unreadable" font thing is a myth.

    Go to best buy, and play with a few is probably your best option. You'll have trouble finding 1080p laptops there, but they should have one or two.

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  • bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I have a Dell laptop with a 15.6" 1600x900 screen and the internet looks glorious

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  • ArchsorcererArchsorcerer Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Which model?

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I'm using a 1024x600 netbook right now, mwahahaha
    and my main pc is 1440x900

    you guys are nuts ;)

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  • samsameersamsameer Registered User new member
    edited September 2010
    Does anybody have advice one way or the other? I don't really plan on watching anything serious on it or doing a ton of gaming, and it has an HDMI out for when I do want to watch something. It's just that I've heard that Dell's 720P display is of much lower quality than the 1080, but that a 1080 15.6" screen makes everything so damn small. That's not a big problem for things like webpages and docs but we all know that nothing else in Windows scales very well; even text, for which there are scaling options, will end up goofy and out of proportion at anything but the default. The cost isn't really a factor, I just want to get something that is functional and that will last a while.

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  • ben0207ben0207 Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Another thing you're maybe not considering is that although you can work pretty comfortably on a 720P screen, havbing it streteched across a 15" display will look dreadful.

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  • AzioAzio Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    If money is not a concern then buy the 1080 display. If the text is too small you can always make it bigger in Windows settings.

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Azio wrote: »
    I won't deny that 1080 is on the large side for a 15 incher (optimal is probably 1440x900 or 1680x1050). But 1280x800 is seriously garbage at that size of display. Even at 13 inches it's hard to put up with. And it's probably a cheap panel with really shitty contrast. It's a shame they don't offer a middle-of-the-road option.

    I don't know, I have a 1920*1080 monitor on my desktop, and I have no problems switching from that to my 15.6" laptop screen at 1280*800. Yeah, they're worlds apart, but the laptop is perfect for browsing with, even if there is a big disconnect in how I use Firefox on both - on the laptop the browser is always open maximised, so no screen space for anything else, while on the desktop it's about 3/8th's the size. And that's not even counting the second monitor (at 1440*900) that I sometimes use.

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  • AzioAzio Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    If you can afford to upgrade there is no reason whatsoever to choose a display that is inferior in every way.

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