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X-Men Thread: Regenesis is here, Phil Collins or Peter Gabriel?

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Solar wrote: »
    hey now whoa now solar

    are you telling me ultimate jean grey has a personality

    When written by Brian Michael Bendis

    I think you lost him after this point

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    The two volumes of UXM written by Bendis were excellent I thought.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    yeah I am not a fan of bendis writing characters he didn't create

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Okay, this is just getting silly now. She Hulk I would have allowed, but taking Spider-Man out of New York to join the mutants in San Fran? This is only going to be for like 5 issues before Peter Parker goes back to the Big Apple, it has to be.
    I just want like, one scene of Spider-Man fighting dudes on the Golden Gate bridge, and maybe making a few Full House jokes. Then he can go back to New York.

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  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Munch wrote: »
    Okay, this is just getting silly now. She Hulk I would have allowed, but taking Spider-Man out of New York to join the mutants in San Fran? This is only going to be for like 5 issues before Peter Parker goes back to the Big Apple, it has to be.
    I just want like, one scene of Spider-Man fighting dudes on the Golden Gate bridge, and maybe making a few Full House jokes. Then he can go back to New York.

    It's Marvel - if Spider-Man is on the Golden Gate bridge, it's only going to be because a Goblin has thrown his love interest off of it, because Gwen Stacy, lol am i rite?

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Hensler wrote: »
    Munch wrote: »
    Okay, this is just getting silly now. She Hulk I would have allowed, but taking Spider-Man out of New York to join the mutants in San Fran? This is only going to be for like 5 issues before Peter Parker goes back to the Big Apple, it has to be.
    I just want like, one scene of Spider-Man fighting dudes on the Golden Gate bridge, and maybe making a few Full House jokes. Then he can go back to New York.

    It's Marvel - if Spider-Man is on the Golden Gate bridge, it's only going to be because a Goblin has thrown his love interest off of it, because Gwen Stacy, lol am i rite?

    You are TOTALLY wrong. Because it is going to be Toad throwing Magma off. (Magma will, at that point, be Spidey's love interest though).

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Spider-Man is all whiny and depressing these days, so he would fit right in with those ironic hippy hipsters that litter San Francisco. He can then throw blood on MJ for wearing fur in a photo shoot when she steps into town to open up a pediatric burn ward.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Ultimate Dazzler was pretty much just generic punk singer, but I still like her and lament her death. Cyclops got the rawest deal, though.

    And a change of scenery would do Peter some good. The only reason he's staying in NYC, where he's now loathed in both his identities, is because of his increasingly evil aunt. Move, though, and he can shed all the baggage.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I always thought he needed NYC more than anything because he needed tall buildings to swing from.

    SF basically has 10 square blocks of high buildings, and then I guess he would just take a spider-trolly to the x-copter to fly to u-topia and then grab the A-mazing Avenger teleporter to Central Park again.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    He's going to use Pixie to commute back and forth to New York.

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Nightcrawler is quitting the X-Men to go into business for himself as a coast-to-coast hero teleportation service.

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  • cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Wildcat wrote: »
    Nightcrawler is quitting the X-Men to go into business for himself as a coast-to-coast hero teleportation service.

    I thought Nightcrawler was dying in Second Coming?

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Solar wrote: »
    Could also be a sign that the definition of mutant is now going to expand to include all super-humans, for better or worse.

    That could be how Marvel gets around the SHRA. Since mutants don't have to register, argue that the distinction between mutants and super-humans is trivial and that all super-humans ought to similarly be exempt from registration.

    I was thinking something similar to this. Marvel has always been bogged down by the arbitrary divisions they've put between groups of characters - especially when it comes to mutants and other supers.

    Anything which brings together the Mutant part of the Marvel Universe with the rest of it is a good thing honestly. With guys like Thor flying about I can't see people really making mutants being different a big deal anymore, and they really need to get away from the "normal people hate muties" anyway.

    It's a tired story device, and it really doesn't make sense now that There Are No More Mutants (tm), but there at least was a legitimate reason to not like mutants but to accept other heroes. Other heroes are the result of accident or genius or alien technology. Mutants represented the end of humankind (one could think).

    It's still dumb to hate them for existing, but people were scared of them because it meant that they themselves were not born special and therefore were actually an inferior species. People wouldn't want to accept that. It's a rash, fear based response, but it's not like people need even this much of an impetus to lash out against something that they're afraid of.

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Solar wrote: »
    hey now whoa now solar

    are you telling me ultimate jean grey has a personality

    When written by Brian Michael Bendis yes. A nasty, unpleasant one. Every other time not really, no. I wish she'd have died in Ultimatum and other mutants had lived, like Angel and Dazzler, and Angel got a power upgrade so he could kick massive amounts of ass while Dazzler carries around an electric guitar everywhere she goes so that she can smack people with it and they have rockin' adventures and their archenemy is a Simon Cowell a-like who Dazzler defeats with the power of punk rock...

    So how many other terrible superheroes with long flowing locks do you idolize, Solar?

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  • stevemarks44stevemarks44 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
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    My God...the hair

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Well that costume doesn't give away the end of second coming, no sir

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  • stevemarks44stevemarks44 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Ringo wrote: »
    Well that costume doesn't give away the end of second coming, no sir

    Should I spoiler the image?

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    yeah what the fuck, marvel.

    I mean, it was pretty obvious, but still.

    edit: I don't think you should spoiler it. It's a fucking promotional piece. Marvel should have put it in spoilers.

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Yeah, that's all Marvel's fault. I'm thinking the guns may be giving something away as well, seeing as how they wouldn't have the significance without the loss of a certain someone.

    And is that Blade? He looks so silly

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I'm guessing her accessories are an inheritance from a soon-to-be-deceased character.

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Ringo wrote: »
    And is that Blade? He looks so silly
    It's the same costume he wore in MI: 13. But the artist made him look a little goofy by raising his hair, and making his canine teeth so visible.

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    his teeth look so small.

    edit: also isn't that outfit of Hope's a good deal like Jean's costume?

    eh kind of I guess
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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Yes, that is the spoiler to which I was refering

    I guess it just remains to be seen why she is wearing that costume

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Ringo wrote: »
    Yes, that is the spoiler to which I was refering

    I guess it just remains to be seen why she is wearing that costume

    oh. I just thought it was the fact that she was using the guns.

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Ringo wrote: »
    Well that costume doesn't give away the end of second coming, no sir

    Oh hey, it's the exact same costume Hope was wearing in last week's UNCANNY X-MEN:

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Well as long as we all come to the same conclusions!

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Not the same. The "V" has been altered in the promo's outfit and now resembles a certain symbol.

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  • descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    So she's CablePhoenix and her buddy is the worst-dressed vampire hunter in history?

    That's Marvel's plan?

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Seriously, this is why I don't understand Marvel or DC marketing sometimes. You have an event going on right now and you decide to put one of the main characters in that story on a promo for the next little event, ruining the suspense.

    Nice spot on Hope's logo in the promo looking more Phoenix-y, Robos.

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  • cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Well, its not like most people are like us and analyze every little promo that comes out. If I wasn't reading CBR on a regular basis, I'd be clueless.

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Cable's guns are pretty iconic to the character. I mean if you know who Cable is at all you know whose guns those are.

    Also if you are into X-men at all, which is why you would care about a promotion. And if you aren't slow like me you'd pick up on the costume thing.

    I mean, really if you weren't following comics right now you might say "What? Why is Jean Grey holding huge guns and why does she have short hair and why is she with Blade?"

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    or it could be a promo piece that means absolutely nothing

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Maybe they are gearing up to announce "Secret X-Men" with Blade, Lyla, and Spider-Man. And Wolverine and Deadpool.

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    or it could be a promo piece that means absolutely nothing

    that

    is

    crazy

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  • cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Tomanta wrote: »
    Maybe they are gearing up to announce "Secret X-Men" with Blade, Lyla, and Spider-Man. And Wolverine and Deadpool.

    No no...its going to be X-Avengers.

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I still think it's artistic license on the promo. Same thing happened with the Iron Man armor Bianchi drew in the "Cap handing Tony the briefcase" SEIGE promo.

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  • Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    or it could be a promo piece that means absolutely nothing

    My thoughts exactly after reading your thoughts.

    My actual thoughts previous were "Isn't Cable shown in promo pieces himself for upcoming books?"

    I could be wrong.

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  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    That's an interesting pose that Blade is in. Almost Liefeld-ian.

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  • Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Jesus Christ, god forbid that Hope become her OWN FUCKING CHARACTER. No, we just miss Jean soooooo much.

    Go away Blade! Go over to the Punisher comic and fight Frankencastle for six issues. No one wants you here.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    or it could be a promo piece that means absolutely nothing

    I don't understand that thinking. There are ways to do teasers for future stories without spoiling what's currently going on.

    Why do that to your customer, if for no other reason than to say "Hey you guys are stupid because something we made was purposely misleading, hahaha." It just makes the current promor pieces look pointless. It's like when Astonishing X-Men first started, and Marvel had John Cassady draw those fake pages that had Jean coming back instead of Colossus and tried to float those around the comic news sites. Instead of doing that, why not just have Cassady focus on trying to get the book out on time?

    Notice how the thinking for these promos, since we saw the first two teasers, went from "hmmm looks like some big hero team amalgamation thing" to "so Hope is going to survive Second Coming?"

    At least the "who's gonna die this time?" teaser we saw last week does just that.

    Jesus Christ, god forbid that Hope become her OWN FUCKING CHARACTER. No, we just miss Jean soooooo much.

    Go away Blade! Go over to the Punisher comic and fight Frankencastle for six issues. No one wants you here.

    Blade should be traded to DC for Deathstroke so he can be in Action Comics. He could seduce Jesse Quick.

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