So, what are some good RPGs/Dungeon Crawlers?

SparrowSparrow Registered User regular
edited February 2010 in Games and Technology
Recently I played through Dragon Age: Origins and absolutely loved it. It was my first D&D'ish style of dungeon crawling and adventuring and now its got me hooked. Problem is after a few runthroughs the game gets old (obviously) and I was wondering if anyone could recommenced me something similar to this.

Age/Graphics don't matter as long as it has graphics. I gave a stab at a few roguelikes awhile back and just couldn't stand it.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Sparrow wrote: »
    Age/Graphics don't matter as long as it has graphics. I gave a stab at a few roguelikes awhile back and just couldn't stand it.

    Due to being text-based, or even the ones with simple graphics? Castle of the Winds is a free and user-friendly roguelike that I always enjoyed.

    Otherwise try Morrowind or Oblivion! The full version of Morrowind with both expansions is super cheap these days.

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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    The Baldur's Gate series, also by Bioware, embodies the spirit they were trying to capture in Dragon Age. It might be a little to close to what you've already played, so give it some time before trying it and I think you'll appreciate it. BG2 is better than BG1, but both are fantastic games (though ... weighed down ... by the 2nd Edition D&D ruleset, which isn't my favorite).

    If you want to play the absolute best Star Wars movies outside of the original trilogy, get Knights of the Old Republic (also Bioware) and KOTOR 2 (by Obsidian). 2 has the issue of the developers suddenly realizing they had to release a game, like, tomorrow, so the end is ... not as satisfying as it could be, but it builds on and refines what KOTOR 1 did very, very well.

    The Eye of the Beholder series (SSI) is another D&D2nd-based game, which features first-person dungeon crawling through an ... extensive ... dungeon. Make sure to have some graph paper on hand. 1 and 2 are fantastic (still some of my favorite games), though 3 is ... eh.

    For some post-apocalyptic roleplaying, Fallouts 1, 2, and 3 are hard to pass up. The series features one of the few games in which you can actually talk down the final boss and win through diplomacy. Fallout 3 is a major departure for the series, changing from the isometric camera of 1 and 2 to a 1st-person/3rd-person view similar to Morrowind and Oblivion (which, already recommended, are also good).

    It's tough - I've got a whole shelf-full of these kinds of games at home, and I'm trying to remember the ones I liked the most. :)

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  • Delta AssaultDelta Assault Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I hear Mass Effect 2 is pretty good.

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  • TyrantCowTyrantCow Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    uhh... torchlight?

    PC, console, what?

    there's some on the DS

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  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Diablo 2 and Torchlight are as basic as they come combat wise but I still find them miles more addictive than Dragon Age.

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  • AdditionalPylonsAdditionalPylons Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Arx Fatalis?

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  • KrudlerKrudler Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Mirroring the Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect, KOTOR, and Fallout sentiments. I'd throw Neverwinter Nights onto the pile as well.

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  • LanrutconLanrutcon The LabyrinthRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Torchlight is cheap, very moddable and slick as all hell.

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  • DarksierDarksier Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Add Arcanum to the list. A good alternative fantasy setting (steampunk) to the dragon age/baldur's gate environments. Oh and throw Planescape:Torment onto that list too for crazy alternate settings.

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  • Gaming-FreakGaming-Freak Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Any Shin Megami Tensei game, really. If you're looking for something more western, go for KOTOR, or even Fallout 1 or 2.

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  • Jad LaFieldsJad LaFields Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I see lots of people mentioning whatever their favorite recent RPG of any type is, like Torchlight or Shin Megami Tensei. Which is fine, but the great thing about Dragon Age is that its an opportunity for people who missed out on the great golden age of Bioware & Black Isle PC RGPs to go back and learn how great those games were. You've got literally hundreds of hours of fantastic gaming ahead of you with the following list:

    Baldur's Gate 1.
    Baldur's Gate 2.
    Planescape: Torment.
    Fallout 1.
    Fallout 2.
    KOTOR.

    Never played them, but Icewind Dale 1 & 2, I guess.

    Anyway, in case you're overwhelmed: if you don't play anything else on this list, play Baldur's Gate 2.

    Everyone should play Baldur's Gate 2.

    Also Planescape.

    Everyone should play those two.

    At least BG2.

    It's so good.

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'll second Morrowind as well, it's one of my favorite RPG's ever. Oblivion is good too but I love Morrowind so much more.

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  • Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Sacred 2: Fallen Angel is surprisingly huge, and not terrible

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  • DrakeDrake Edgelord Trash Below the ecliptic plane.Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Icewind Dale is a seriously combat heavy dungeon crawl. You create your whole party from scratch too. It's up to you to decide who you bring along. Keep in mind that along with that comes the sacrifice of all the party member interactions that give a lot of flavor to these games.

    Still, it's a quality game and if you don't mind the D&D system itself then it's a great dungeon crawl.

    Also, Fallout is just great. Really, really great. I really should pick my Femme Fatale playthrough of that back up again.

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  • AganazerAganazer Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Din's Curse is the new defacto dungeon crawl experience.

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  • GrisloGrislo Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Drake wrote: »
    Icewind Dale is a seriously combat heavy dungeon crawl. You create your whole party from scratch too. It's up to you to decide who you bring along. Keep in mind that along with that comes the sacrifice of all the party member interactions that give a lot of flavor to these games.

    Still, it's a quality game and if you don't mind the D&D system itself then it's a great dungeon crawl.

    Also, Fallout is just great. Really, really great. I really should pick my Femme Fatale playthrough of that back up again.

    I would probably skip directly to Icewind Dale 2. And yes, it's a great game. It's a different experience from the BG games, but no less excellent. Lots of stuff to stab, and dead cats.

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  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    A roguelike with graphics: Crawl.

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  • CherrnCherrn Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    For recent stuff, I'd definitely go with Torchlight. There's just something pure about that game; a great time in dungeons!

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Etrian Odyssey 1 & 2. Easily the best dungeon crawler style games released recently.

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  • SkexisSkexis Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Sparrow wrote: »
    Recently I played through Dragon Age: Origins and absolutely loved it. It was my first D&D'ish style of dungeon crawling and adventuring and now its got me hooked. Problem is after a few runthroughs the game gets old (obviously) and I was wondering if anyone could recommenced me something similar to this.

    Age/Graphics don't matter as long as it has graphics. I gave a stab at a few roguelikes awhile back and just couldn't stand it.

    Neverwinter Nights 2 is pretty similar, at least in my eyes. It plays more strictly to the D&D rules, but it also tends to follow the bioware formula more closely. It does tend to be fairly linear, though, which might be a turn off for you.

    Seconding KOTOR and Torchlight because games are amazing like what

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  • RenegenRenegen Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Wizardry 8.

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  • zilozilo Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Dungeon Hack. It's an Eye of the Beholder game with randomly generated dungeons that has dozens of settings you can tweak. It's hard to find but worth the effort.

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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    zilo wrote: »
    Dungeon Hack. It's an Eye of the Beholder game with randomly generated dungeons that has dozens of settings you can tweak. It's hard to find but worth the effort.

    I actually own this, and I find that it's ... impossible? ... unless you're a Cleric / Something. Otherwise, resting to heal damage takes too long, and you end up running out of food and starving to death (and / or being eaten by wandering monsters).

    Is there a way to tweak this? I'd really like to play it more.

    I'll second Neverwinter Nights as being an absolutely fantastic game engine. The "Original Campaign" (OC) for the base game, though, suffers a lot for being originally designed to take your character from 1st to about 7th-10th level (IIRC). Then, someone said, "Hey - there's 20 levels of character development available; why are you shortchanging your players?" So, much padding was added last-minutish, and the campaign suffers for it.

    That being said, the universe of downloadable modules (adventures) for the game is so far out of this world it's ridiculous, including some pretty amazing linked scenarios (e.g., a campaign in 4 or 6 parts).

    The two expansion packs from Bioware added in a couple much more entertaining campaigns, a well as a slew of new tools for the modders.

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  • zilozilo Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    You can turn down/off food consumption and bump up potion drops, if I remember correctly (though it's been a few years). I remember doing well as a fighter/thief and a pure spellcaster.

    e: Oh! now I remember. The food meter only affects your ability to rest, so save rations and whatnot until you need to start resting to memorize spells or something. Otherwise rely on the shrines to heal.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Pata wrote: »
    Etrian Odyssey 1 & 2. Easily the best dungeon crawler style games released recently.

    And part 3 is on the way, featuring sailing, pirates, farmers, cross-classing, and underboob.

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  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I will give bonus points if someone can name some good Dungeon Crawls for PSP or DS.

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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Houn wrote: »
    I will give bonus points if someone can name some good Dungeon Crawls for PSP or DS.

    People have already mentioned Etrian Odyssey 1 & 2. Those are for DS (and 2, at least, is great fun; never played 1; 4th Stratum go!). It feels like a JRPG version of Eye of the Beholder to me.

    Also, a Grand Duchy is a place, not a person, you silly Nipponese!

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  • DrakeDrake Edgelord Trash Below the ecliptic plane.Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Houn wrote: »
    I will give bonus points if someone can name some good Dungeon Crawls for PSP or DS.

    The Dark Spire. It's evil and sadistic.

    For Rogue Like dungeon crawlers check out Shiren (obligatory), and my personal favorite, the Izuna games (probably because I haven't picked up Shiren yet).

    Izuna gets bonus points for being totally light hearted and loaded with bewb jokes. It's also not crushingly difficult. Merely really hard. Both of them are fun, but Izuna 2 is the "real" Izuna game, with an overworld, tons of playable characters, a tag team system and lots of improvements and tweaks over the first one. I'd only look up the first game if you are an obsessive collector, since it's probably difficult to find now and overpriced for what you'd get.

    A quick look at eBay gives some backup to my last statement. You'll pay thirtiesh dollars for the first one used, and you can buy the second new for around ten.

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Renegen wrote: »
    Wizardry 8.

    I'm going to second this game as well, it has a lot of options to choose from when creating your party and there's a lot of places to explore, monsters to kill, loot to be had, etc. It also has some hilarious voice acting and there's quite a bit of humorous dialogue. The only downside I've found is the battles can tend to run a long time when there's quite a few enemies around and everything has to take it's turn, but otherwise a superb game.

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  • GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Aye, Wiz 8 is an amazing game. If you can handle the long battles later on in the game. I usually stop playing when I'm 80% into the game and need to travel to a distant location again, because I can't be bothered fighting everything on the way over there.

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  • BlueDestinyBlueDestiny Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Houn wrote: »
    I will give bonus points if someone can name some good Dungeon Crawls for PSP or DS.

    I hear Shiren the Wanderer is a good DS roguelike.

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  • SparserLogicSparserLogic Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Demon's Souls. I cannot recommend it enough. It has become the standard to which I judge all games, and they all fail miserably.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Houn wrote: »
    I will give bonus points if someone can name some good Dungeon Crawls for PSP or DS.

    There's a game on the PSP called... I think the name is... uh... Class of Heroes? Did I get that right?

    It's made by the Etrian Odyssey folks, only it's not EO. It's a dungeon crawler though, and aside from different classes there's a bunch of different races to assign your class to. It looked neat. But I don't have a PSP. So it's sad times over here.

    If you want a more unique kind of RPG that isn't really a traditional RPG, Riviera: The Promised Land is an option. It was originally a GBA game in the States (which was a touching up of a Wonder Swan version), but it's got a PSP version that's even more touched up and has full voice acting. I just beat the game (GBA version) like 20 minutes ago. :3

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  • DrakeDrake Edgelord Trash Below the ecliptic plane.Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I love Riviera soo much. Definitely my favorite JRPG.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Wizardry PS2. (Tale of the Forsaken Land) Also, CoH wasn't made by Atlus,just published. Still good, though.

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  • hatedinamericahatedinamerica Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    A roguelike with graphics: Crawl.

    Absolutely fucking essential.

    Oh and regarding the dungeon crawl on DS thing...Mystery Dungeon: Shiren The Wanderer. It's easily the best DS purchase I ever made.

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  • TanolenTanolen Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Planescape: Torment
    Vampire: Bloodlines
    Deus Ex

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  • theclamtheclam Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'll 3rd Crawl. We had a great thread about it a while back:
    http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=57826&highlight=crawl

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  • BecomingBecoming Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Elona is pretty fancy. And free.

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  • SparrowSparrow Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Aight thanks guys, meant to reply earlier but the snowstorm cut the power where I live.

    Downloaded crawl, and added Baldur's Gate 1/2, Demons Souls, and Planescape: Torment to my list of things to play.

    Neverwinter Nights also looks pretty good. Was wondering though if I should just skip to the sequel or if playing the original was a must.

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