[Final Fantasy] Neochu, I Choose You!

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  • AdusAdus Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    The drop rate is 1% with no bonuses. I believe 5 starring the fight brings it to 5%. The Connoisseur's Catalog adds something pretty minor. Like another 1% or something.

    Yeah it is completely retarded. It's like playing Everquest again but you don't have anyone to talk to while you farm.

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  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I actually got all the traps I need while farming for the ingots. It's the simple fact that I still need so many more ingots that pisses me off.

    I wish that if you had your crystarium maxed out, that you would get gil instead of cp, or something like that.

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  • RustRust __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2010
    seriously, what is the point of all that crap

    if you're killing what's essentially the second-most powerful enemy in the game to get the ultimate weapons, then you probably don't need the weapons

    is all this really for the sake of one achievement

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  • AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Yes.

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  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Pretty much for the trophy, yeah. Well, I was also doing it for CP, but I maxed that out now.

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  • Proven MortalProven Mortal Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    How much money do you need for Treasure Hunter anyway ?

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Adus wrote: »
    Costco

    But then you have to buy the cooler too, that's how they get you.

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  • BlitzAce1981BlitzAce1981 Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Rust wrote: »
    seriously, what is the point of all that crap

    if you're killing what's essentially the second-most powerful enemy in the game to get the ultimate weapons, then you probably don't need the weapons

    is all this really for the sake of one achievement

    I think you unlock a theme/gamer pic too. So hey, free tat, at the cost of a few hundred giant turtles.

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  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    How much money do you need for Treasure Hunter anyway ?

    I have no idea...you don't need a certain total, but you need money to buy components and stones for upgrading items. I've been buying this stuff as I go so I don't know how much total I need...but it's definately a very high amount.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Is there a way to farm Deceptisols? I could use a large quantity of them while doing these marks.

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  • Proven MortalProven Mortal Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    How much money do you need for Treasure Hunter anyway ?

    I have no idea...you don't need a certain total, but you need money to buy components and stones for upgrading items. I've been buying this stuff as I go so I don't know how much total I need...but it's definately a very high amount.

    Is it cheaper to upgrade tier 1 weapons into tier 2, than buying all the tier 2 from Gilgamesh Inc. ? I havent gotten that store yet, so I havent seen the prices for them

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  • kuhlmeyekuhlmeye Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Ok, this deserves a post.

    I've been poking around GameFAQS waiting for new guides to pop up, and I've found a decent upgrade guide here. The cool thing is, in his guide there's a link to a experience calculator! You put in the base Exp to go from Lv 1 to Lv2, current level, Max lv of the item, the increment of exp needed for further levels, and the current exp in the item. It then tells you Exp needed to reach max level!

    For example, Lightnings Blazefire Sabre needs 24600 Exp to max. From here it wouldn't be too hard to figure out money needed to max the item. The guide has the info for all of Lightning's weapons currently.

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  • khainkhain Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    kuhlmeye wrote: »
    Ok, this deserves a post.

    I've been poking around GameFAQS waiting for new guides to pop up, and I've found a decent upgrade guide here. The cool thing is, in his guide there's a link to a experience calculator! You put in the base Exp to go from Lv 1 to Lv2, current level, Max lv of the item, the increment of exp needed for further levels, and the current exp in the item. It then tells you Exp needed to reach max level!

    For example, Lightnings Blazefire Sabre needs 24600 Exp to max. From here it wouldn't be too hard to figure out money needed to max the item. The guide has the info for all of Lightning's weapons currently.

    The first walkthrough guide on GameFAQs has the experience numbers needed to max every weapon. You also can't figure out the money needed without way more effort since the experience components apply isn't constant, but changes based on a item level which isn't shown.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    How much does the rewards for missions vary based on your rating?

    Also, if you fail to 5 star a mission, can you go back and 5 star it again to get the 5 star reward, or is that only obtainable the first time you attempt a mission?

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    How much does the rewards for missions vary based on your rating?

    Also, if you fail to 5 star a mission, can you go back and 5 star it again to get the 5 star reward, or is that only obtainable the first time you attempt a mission?

    Rating has no bearing on the rewards.

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  • ironsizideironsizide You must whip it Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Ugh is the money grind for Treasure Hunter a bitch. I figure I can get the remaining trophies/points with some finesse, but this one is just a stone cold bitch. I have to 5-star two marks yet, beat up an ancient giant turtle (I got one down to 1/3 before a ill-targeted Ultima ended that attempt), and of course collect every item in the game. Traps drop rates have been abysmal. I have two to speak for and the money just to star the 3rd tier weapon to breakdown into 3 traps is kicking my ass.

    Why Squeenix? Why you gotta hate a playah?

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  • EtiowsaEtiowsa Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    khain wrote: »
    kuhlmeye wrote: »
    Ok, this deserves a post.

    I've been poking around GameFAQS waiting for new guides to pop up, and I've found a decent upgrade guide here. The cool thing is, in his guide there's a link to a experience calculator! You put in the base Exp to go from Lv 1 to Lv2, current level, Max lv of the item, the increment of exp needed for further levels, and the current exp in the item. It then tells you Exp needed to reach max level!

    For example, Lightnings Blazefire Sabre needs 24600 Exp to max. From here it wouldn't be too hard to figure out money needed to max the item. The guide has the info for all of Lightning's weapons currently.

    The first walkthrough guide on GameFAQs has the experience numbers needed to max every weapon. You also can't figure out the money needed without way more effort since the experience components apply isn't constant, but changes based on a item level which isn't shown.

    Actually, another one of the guides on GameFAQs (the post game guide I think) has breakdowns for cost and components for all of the weapons. Very handy info.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Just started FFXIII today, got to
    the beginning of the part where you find out you're all cursed

    Does the game start getting interesting now

    Up to this point it has mostly been running to the next fight and pressing X to auto-battle

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  • klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    DaemonSadi wrote: »
    How much does the rewards for missions vary based on your rating?

    Also, if you fail to 5 star a mission, can you go back and 5 star it again to get the 5 star reward, or is that only obtainable the first time you attempt a mission?

    Rating has no bearing on the rewards.

    And yes, you can go back to the Cie'th stone that gave you the mission and do it again, as many times as you want (You won't get the same reward that you did first time, but some of the secondary rewards can be okay).
    Also, the map screen keeps track of the missions you've done, along with the ratings you got (I forget wich button it is, but there's a prompt on there). It only stores the best rating you get, so it's easy to keep track of which one's you need to 5-star for the trophy.

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  • metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Just started FFXIII today, got to
    the beginning of the part where you find out you're all cursed

    Does the game start getting interesting now

    Up to this point it has mostly been running to the next fight and pressing X to auto-battle

    Obviously it's subjective, but I think the average player doesn't start having fun for another 8-10 hours after that point.

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  • BlitzAce1981BlitzAce1981 Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I've just realized something.

    B&W Outfitters.

    Biggs & Wedge.

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  • mr-razzcocksmr-razzcocks Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I don't even remember seeing a Biggs & Wedge since FFVIII

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  • chipmanchipman Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I've just realized something.

    B&W Outfitters.

    Biggs & Wedge.

    God damn.

    I DID NOT realise that.

    The shops seem to be just a way of lazily inserting all the cameos now - seeing as it's the only place with mention of moogles too.

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  • Rubix42Rubix42 Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    chipman wrote: »
    I've just realized something.

    B&W Outfitters.

    Biggs & Wedge.

    God damn.

    I DID NOT realise that.

    The shops seem to be just a way of lazily inserting all the cameos now - seeing as it's the only place with mention of moogles too.

    And boo on that. They couldn't give me just 1 spot with a Moogle Fal'cie? I would have been happy with a straight up VI rip off of the moogle cave.

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  • BlitzAce1981BlitzAce1981 Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I don't even remember seeing a Biggs & Wedge since FFVIII

    They were in front of the Blitzball stadium in FFX, and could be hired as players. FFX-2 had them automatically in the team; I think they were still in the same place.

    FFXII had two Archadian soldiers with similar names... Gibbs and Deweg in Nalbina.

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  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Just started FFXIII today, got to
    the beginning of the part where you find out you're all cursed

    Does the game start getting interesting now

    Up to this point it has mostly been running to the next fight and pressing X to auto-battle

    The definately fun bit begins at the very end of Chapter 8, then into chapter 9, then the real game begins in chapter 11. For everything else your mileage will vary, I personally grinded through it, and now love chapter 11.

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I don't know why you're surprised Square is this retarded. It's just like in FF12 with the Wyrmhero Blade. There was no fucking point to that sword. By the time you got it there was nothing left to kill.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    tbloxham wrote: »
    Just started FFXIII today, got to
    the beginning of the part where you find out you're all cursed

    Does the game start getting interesting now

    Up to this point it has mostly been running to the next fight and pressing X to auto-battle

    The definately fun bit begins at the very end of Chapter 8, then into chapter 9, then the real game begins in chapter 11. For everything else your mileage will vary, I personally grinded through it, and now love chapter 11.

    That is very disappointing

    8-10 hours is a seriously big time investment for a father of two with two jobs

    Nothing for it now, I guess

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  • Rubix42Rubix42 Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    tbloxham wrote: »
    Just started FFXIII today, got to
    the beginning of the part where you find out you're all cursed

    Does the game start getting interesting now

    Up to this point it has mostly been running to the next fight and pressing X to auto-battle

    The definately fun bit begins at the very end of Chapter 8, then into chapter 9, then the real game begins in chapter 11. For everything else your mileage will vary, I personally grinded through it, and now love chapter 11.

    That is very disappointing

    8-10 hours is a seriously big time investment for a father of two with two jobs

    Nothing for it now, I guess

    YMMV. I've enjoyed the game from minute 1 to hour 26 so far. Everyone views it differently. I think the fewer demands you have in your head about what an FF game is, the more you enjoy it.

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  • RustRust __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2010
    I don't know why you're surprised Square is this retarded. It's just like in FF12 with the Wyrmhero Blade. There was no fucking point to that sword. By the time you got it there was nothing left to kill.

    i think you're talking about the tournesol

    that's the one that requires killing all the megabosses or about a million hours of farming to make

    edit: wait, no, i tell a lie, you're right

    i think the tournesol takes even longer to make, though

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  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I enjoyed the game from the very beginning.

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  • RustRust __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2010
    man all this farm talk makes me want to replay FFXII

    until i remember that this would be the worst idea in the world

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I like the animations and stuff so far but the game consists of running from point A to point B and every once in a while hitting X until the bad guys are dead

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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I recently unlocked Rank 9 in the Crystarium and got everyone's unique abilities, but I'm not really sure when I should use them.

    For example, Lightning's "Army of One" supposedly gives a chain bonus that "varies by situation," but I'm not really sure what that means. Do I use it when an opponent's staggered to increase the chain percentage during the stagger? Or do I use it to get an opponent to stagger faster?

    Basically, the descriptions for almost all of the unique abilities are a little too vague for me to figure out when I should use them instead of my normal abilities. And it doesn't help that I haven't seen the AI choose Fang or Hope's specials, and Auto-Attack never chooses Lightning's.

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  • AdusAdus Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Pretty much both things you said about Lightning's is right, though the only time I've used it is on mission 64 and only while he was staggered.

    AI will never ever choose the special attacks.

    Fang's Highwind is mostly useful right before a stagger runs out. I've had it hit for max damage (as in 999,999 with Genji Glove. Granted it was a high stagger meter and I had buffs, but still).

    Vanille's Death is extremely useful against the Neochu and the big turtles.

    I've never tried any other.

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  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I like the animations and stuff so far but the game consists of running from point A to point B and every once in a while hitting X until the bad guys are dead

    I found that the combat started to get interesting around Chapter 3. It still develops somewhat slowly, but you'll start getting your first ratings below 5 stars and and you'll get a feel for the Paradigm Shift mechanic.

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  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Question on Neochu, what level were most you when you beat him? I've managed to kill him, but I get ripped apart the Picochu's.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Rust wrote: »
    there needs to be something to keep you occupied in JRPG's besides combat

    this is usually alleviated by the story and writing, and FFXIII's pretty lacking in that

    between that, and the game's fixation on railroading you from one place to another where there's pretty much nothing to do but fight (and occasionally admire the scenery), there's precious little game to be had in here between the flash and glamour

    The thing is, that's all a matter of opinion.

    I like JRPGs, but I also like FFXIII's take on JRPGs where it eliminates a lot of the boring shit that I usually put up with to get to the stuff I like.

    And since I'm of the opinion that XIII features a pretty good story with a great cast coupled with a fantastic combat system, the fact that it's "all there is" to the game is good, rather than bad.

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  • IcemopperIcemopper Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I juuuuust got to Chapter 11. Should I start leveling up now? Do I really have that crap-huge map?

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