Napoleon: Total War - LIBERTÉÉÉ, ÉGALITÉÉÉ, FRATERNITÉÉ

TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEONRegistered User regular
edited July 2011 in Games and Technology
War. War never changes.

But the time period does!

NAPOLEON: TOTAL WAR

Welcome to The Napoleonic Era, a time when men weren't afraid to get slaughtered en masse just for kicks!

Napoleon: Total War is the newest entry in the Total War series. Total War combines turn-based strategy on a large campaign map (similar to Civilization) with epic, real-time army battles between huge groups of people.

This is the Campaign Map.
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This is a battle.
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Napoleon: Total War adds new stuff to the familiar Total War formula, like drop-in multiplayer battles for fights from your single-player campaign, famous historical generals (some of whom wear top-hats), a small, more focused single-player campaign where you play as Napoleon, and despair for the people who wonder why Empire: Total War doesn't get all this cool stuff.

And there are naval battles!

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Pew pew pew

Napoleon: Total War is available on Steam. You can also buy the Imperial Edition which comes with 10 extra units to use in single player or multiplayer. If you're dumb.

EMPIRE: TOTAL WAR
Empire: Total War is basically Napoleon minus a lot of the character, plus a larger world map, minus a lot of gameplay changes, plus some bugs, minus some bugs, minus some cool graphics, plus some despair that accompanies owning it instead of Napoleon.

Luckily a patch is here. Details on the fixes, including AI changes, at this link. So that's cool. Napoleon is still the better purchase.

This is where your saved games are hidden for E:TW:

XP: C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\The Creative Assembly\Empire\save_games

Vista: C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\The Creative Assembly\Empire\save_games

OLDER GAMES: TOTAL WAR
You can find a lot of people who will say that anything between Shogun (the first) and Medieval II (the last before Empire) is the best game. They all have their charms, their ups, and their downs, but it's generally agreed that Rome: Total War and Medieval II: Total War are the best. They both have absolutely stunning mods (something Empire and Napoleon unfortunately can't really have), and either or both are fantastic choices.

The best Rome mod is probably Europa Barbarorum. It focuses on adding men without shirts.

The best Medieval II mods (most require the Kingdoms expansion) are probably Stainless Steel, which greatly expands the main game and adds some AI tweaks, Broken Crescent, which adds Islamic people who aren't terrorists (a first for videogames), and Third Age: Total War which recreates the Lord of the Rings movies, minus the Hobbits and plus a thousand more battles.

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  • Kris_xKKris_xK Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    The thread title scares me because it's different.

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  • VerrVerr Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Wow, I just took Paris as the Prussians.

    Crazy fun. I started with a full stack, and fought France's better trained, better equipped, and numerically superior army. Ended the fight with only 20 muskateers and a canon. Killed over 2000 dudes. The Battle AI actually out-flanked me, so I withdrew to a hill and made a stand.

    So many dead.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Kris_xK wrote: »
    The thread title scares me because it's different.

    But it follows the pattern!

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    When I have to turn on France to capture objective regions, I'm in for quite a battle:
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    If anyone likes this game in multiplayer, feel free to look me up on steam. Username: truxardus. I also have Empire and Medieval 2. (well, and Rome and MTW1)

    Been playing with my buddies a bit, and the MP is superb.

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  • DrunkMcDrunkMc Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    So, am I missing something, I'm doing the first Napolean campagin after the tutorial. I've won every battle I fought, but I went after the main City to the North and there was an army full of refreshed troops despite me decimating them all the way there.

    Fine that's their main city, I run. Then at the same time an equally huge army comes out of the mist and sieges my city to the right. Like........wtf?

    Did I wait too long and they just stock piled? Should I try to move quicker/slower? I'm winning the battles, but they just seem to have infinite fucking armies! And I left it on the default difficulty.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I recently re-started the European campaign, and was surprised how much fun it was to fight with small armies against enemies who didn't have gigantic fucking armies either. This time, England will be my protectorate (as oppose to just part of France, anyway).

    I'll have to finish my first European campaign, just so I can say I did though.

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  • PriscaPrisca Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Has anyone managed to earn, "The People's Crown - 100% Approval Rate" achievement?

    I've managed to earn 100% approval from the French people after researching the Napoleonic Code & lowering tax rates, but the achievement remains locked.

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  • Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Just started a Russia campaign with several mods. I'm scared. I've never not played as Britain.

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  • Kris_xKKris_xK Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I can spend an inordinate amount of time just looking at the winter campaign map.

    It's just so pretty.

    Also, I wish Spies were easier to recruit in this.

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  • PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    So I caved and bought Napoleon. Kind of wish it hadn't cost $90 if I factor in the paid beta testing, but whatever. It's not terrible.

    And what's up with that OP?
    They all have their charms, their ups, and their downs, but it's generally agreed that Rome: Total War and Medieval II: Total War are the best.

    It's generally agreed that Rome is the best by crack-smokeing uh silly geese. Rome is easily the worst one. Maybe empire would vie for the title, but I've stopped considering empire to be in the series. It was the first draft for napoleon, which I don't hate yet.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Just started a Russia campaign with several mods. I'm scared. I've never not played as Britain.

    Russia's easy. You don't have to fight France, you can just carve up the Ottoman Empire and then wait till Austria and Prussia are weak. Alternately, you can do what I did, which was carve up all the Ottoman Empire, then conquer all of Napoleon's satellite states in Italy.

    Or do you mean Empire, in which case, yuck. Orange and Green uniforms? Really?

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  • widowsonwidowson Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Verr wrote: »
    Wow, I just took Paris as the Prussians.


    Again?

    :winky:

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  • widowsonwidowson Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Stupid question.

    ALL of the mods for MTW2 in the OP look cool. Can you do more than one mod or do these things overwrite part of MTW2 meaning I'll have to choose one and only one?

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    widowson wrote: »
    Stupid question.

    ALL of the mods for MTW2 in the OP look cool. Can you do more than one mod or do these things overwrite part of MTW2 meaning I'll have to choose one and only one?

    They don't overwrite. Stainless Steel is added to the launcher as an additional option after the kingdoms.

    I haven't played Third Age recently, but last time I did, it had issues with the launcher, but did not overwrite the files. You simply had to rig the launcher to launch it in place of another mod.

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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    so that 10% off deal this week wasn't good enough

    i got burned on empire paying full price, i'll be waiting for a super cheapo sale on napolean

    (which makes me sad since i own every other total war game and expansion ever)

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    So I caved and bought Napoleon. Kind of wish it hadn't cost $90 if I factor in the paid beta testing, but whatever. It's not terrible.

    And what's up with that OP?
    They all have their charms, their ups, and their downs, but it's generally agreed that Rome: Total War and Medieval II: Total War are the best.

    It's generally agreed that Rome is the best by crack-smokeing uh silly geese. Rome is easily the worst one. Maybe empire would vie for the title, but I've stopped considering empire to be in the series. It was the first draft for napoleon, which I don't hate yet.
    Just going by what I've heard. What's everyone else's favorite/least favorite?

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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    widowson wrote: »
    Verr wrote: »
    Wow, I just took Paris as the Prussians.


    Again?

    :winky:

    ^5. Well played, sir.

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  • EndaroEndaro Registered User regular
    edited April 2010

    And what's up with that OP?
    They all have their charms, their ups, and their downs, but it's generally agreed that Rome: Total War and Medieval II: Total War are the best.

    It's generally agreed that Rome is the best by crack-smokeing uh silly geese. Rome is easily the worst one. Maybe empire would vie for the title, but I've stopped considering empire to be in the series. It was the first draft for napoleon, which I don't hate yet.

    Oh good I wasn't the only one that had that reaction.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    So....who's the coolest spy you've recruited?

    I've got Charles-Geneviève-Louis-Auguste-André-Timothée d'Éon de Beaumont.

    You know, the 77 year old cross-dresser. Pretty awesome.

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  • grrarggrrarg Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Are spies actually useful in NTW? Empire's rakes were useless as anything but scouts since they failed a lot, with corresponding diplomacy hits, unless you save-scummed to train them.

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  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    This game runs like shit on my computer and it haunts me every day. The campaign map runs decently, but in battles in slows down to almost unplayable :(

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  • IvarIvar Oslo, NorwayRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    What happens when your spy sabotages an enemy army?

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  • TheGerbilTheGerbil Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    MTW2 is looked fondly upon because of mods. The base game isn't that great.

    Rome: Total War has awful awful AI and balance. Atrocious in fact.

    Empire and Napoleon are actually pretty good (comparitively, CA was never the best at game support) in terms of what they added. Empire suffered from a lot of bugs though and the change to range line troops instead of melee.

    Napoleon is actually a solid entry in and of itself.

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  • StrikorStrikor Calibrations? Calibrations! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    As bad as Rome's AI was, it would actually fortify cities from what I remember. The 4 unit militia defense was so bad in Medieval 2 that someone had to make a garrison script to give them free units when defending. Empire had the same problem and I wouldn't be surprised if Napoleon suffers from it as well.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    grrarg wrote: »
    Are spies actually useful in NTW? Empire's rakes were useless as anything but scouts since they failed a lot, with corresponding diplomacy hits, unless you save-scummed to train them.

    Spies are incredibly useful, for primarily two things:

    1) Infiltrating cities so you can see what is inside of them

    2) And more importantly, killing people. The AI loses a huge advantage, particularly when they're on the offensive, when an army group's general is killed. And furthermore, trying to kill foreign "gentlemen" through duels is shockingly unreliable, so the most practical way to keep your enemy's foreign powers from using your universities to do research is to send out spies to kill them.

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I conquered Paris and liberated it. It's a shame they don't allow you to choose who sits on the throne, because I was aiming for the Bourbon restoration, and instead got Napoleon III.

    Paris got quickly re-conquered.

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    ...and I thought of how all those people died, and what a good death that is. That nobody can blame you for it, because everyone else died along with you, and it is the fault of none, save those who did the killing.

    Nothing's forgotten, nothing is ever forgotten
  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Yeah, the liberating option is not perfect. I liberated Scotland and Ireland, but England? Nope, you gotta annex that.

    I really do wish there was an option that allowed you to create protectorates from states of your own choosing.

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    That, and to bring back the Royal Family window (if your nation has one) and allow you to select your own heir. It surely wouldn't be difficult to implement something this small, especially with the code already present (royal family mod is now available again for Napoleon and 1.5 patch of Empire), but Creative Assembly are strangely silent on the matter.

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    ...and I thought of how all those people died, and what a good death that is. That nobody can blame you for it, because everyone else died along with you, and it is the fault of none, save those who did the killing.

    Nothing's forgotten, nothing is ever forgotten
  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Practically speaking, the cabinet window is more useful (seeing how years pass by very, very slow in NTW, which is a good thing) than an heir window, but having both would be nice.

    EDIT: Okay, apparently, the Prussians decided to be assholes once more and I find myself at war with them. Thankfully, I had a army within spitting distance of Berlin. So, my decision is should I bother occupying Berlin after I storm it (which will take something in the area of 16 Militia units, and fighting revolutionaries), or should I sack it and leave, and let them retake their capital so I can do all over again?

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  • PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I've been playing Napoleon, and it's surprisingly not terrible. I'm in the Egypt campaign, and I've actually been finding it a challenge. Well, challenge might be too strong a word, but I have actually had to defend a little instead of it being a constant death march across the enemies' territory. I dropped a little army off on Cyprus, and they actually wound up getting beat. I started behind a ridge, and the enemy outnumbered me about 2:1, and they split their army to come at my flanks since the direct path was blocked. I jumped on the left wing with everyone and massacred them, then when we turned to fight the other wing, they swarmed my flank with some cavalry and managed to force me to retreat. We were badly outnumbered, but I think that's the first time I've ever lost a battle. So congrats, CA, I guess?

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I've had to loose a few battles....mostly because retreat wasn't an option. Not a pleasant experience.

    Anyway, Berlin--take it or leave it?

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  • PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Abandon it. Then you can milk it again in the future.

    And I guess they haven't fixed the insane minor nations thing, or maybe just in the story. The brits were launching attacks from cyprus. They landed a full stack in Egypt, and I butchered them, then sailed one of my two armies up there. They landed, and I was attacked one at a time be three different stacks. I ended up surviving, but by the end I had like four guys manning a cannon and maybe a dozen PTSD infantrymen. So I march to the city just to see it before they finish us off, and it's got another god damn full stack in it. What the fuck. How is that balanced? I gave up on that shitty island and just blitzed through the rest of that campaign, since the turks were about spent. Not bad overall, but they still can't balance for shit.

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  • IvarIvar Oslo, NorwayRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I, uh

    I think the British in Cyprus are supposed to be hard to beat in that campaign

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  • PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    There's hard, and then there's no point in trying. If they have those kinds of numbers, why didn't the AI just land in Egypt and wipe me out?

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  • PriscaPrisca Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Tips for those of you who are struggling with the Egypt Campaign on H/H..

    - Always leave a full stack in garrison in Alexandria to fend off British and Ottoman raids.
    - Spend the first twenty turns attacking and fending off the Mamelukes and Bedouins. Seize every region surrounding Cairo, but don't head for the southern cities.
    - Don't bother attacking the British garrison at Cyprus.
    - Don't bother invading the Bedouins as well.
    - Most Ottoman cities with the exception of Damascus shouldn't have a garrison. So you should have an easy time forcing the defenders to surrender.
    - You should have two full stack armies to go on the offensive, and one medium sized army on border patrols. The rest of your cities should only be defended by Militia or Palestinian Auxiliaries.
    - Once you get the mission to capture Damascus, taking the city will end the campaign. By then, you should've taken the cities surrounding Jerusalem. Try to blitz straight for Damascus.

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  • PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I invaded the faces off of the Bedouins. Camel wars are fun.

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  • EndaroEndaro Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    So I I've been playing MW2 and Empire again, and I think I actually like Empire better. Time period has a lot to do with it, but it always seems to me like MW2 was recent enough to ditch a lot of the great stuff about the early titles (MW and Shogun) but hadn't gotten some bumps out like in Empire.

    What's the year range for Napoleon:TW? Considering picking it up if I find a good price.

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  • Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Endaro wrote: »

    What's the year range for Napoleon:TW? Considering picking it up if I find a good price.

    1805 to 1812, but each turn is two weeks. Also there's a mod that takes the campaign to 1820.

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  • EndaroEndaro Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Endaro wrote: »

    What's the year range for Napoleon:TW? Considering picking it up if I find a good price.

    1805 to 1812, but each turn is two weeks. Also there's a mod that takes the campaign to 1820.

    Phew...Neat idea but sounds a bit historically restricted.

    The Total War series has always seemed a bit anglo-centric to me. With Empire they skipped completely over the 1500's when the Ottoman Empire was at it's height and went right to when it was at its worse. While their historical depictions of the Western powers hasn't been too bad, it's been pretty terrible in their representation of a lot of the Eastern areas of the campaign map.

    I think it would have been more fun setting the game in the Long 19th Century rather than just those 7 years.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Endaro wrote: »
    Endaro wrote: »

    What's the year range for Napoleon:TW? Considering picking it up if I find a good price.

    1805 to 1812, but each turn is two weeks. Also there's a mod that takes the campaign to 1820.

    Phew...Neat idea but sounds a bit historically restricted.

    The Total War series has always seemed a bit anglo-centric to me. With Empire they skipped completely over the 1500's when the Ottoman Empire was at it's height and went right to when it was at its worse. While their historical depictions of the Western powers hasn't been too bad, it's been pretty terrible in their representation of a lot of the Eastern areas of the campaign map.

    I think it would have been more fun setting the game in the Long 19th Century rather than just those 7 years.

    MTW 2 goes into the 16th century. Not very much though, and only for like, 3 factions; Spain, Portugal, and the Ottoman Empire. Though....Britain and France get musketeers and proper pikemen in the Americas campaign.

    There's a few mods out to make the Ottomans and Indians a bit more realistic in ETW, too. Though, few of the Western powers are really fleshed out, either.

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