[Megaten / Persona Discussion] Use the new thread!

cj iwakura

We interrupt Mr. Cypher's rants to bring you a Strange Journey fusion guide.

http://apps.evilrobotstuff.com/strange_journey/fission

Good stuff.





Ah, greetings. You appear to be a most capable Devil Summoner.

Surely that means you possess a 'spark' of sorts, one with which to carve your own destiny.

My name? Oh, that's not important. Call me Louis. All my friends do.


Regrettably, it takes one of a... shall we say, special caliber to meet my most particular needs.

Once there was a man who possessed the power of both a human and a demon, for instance...

Ah, but that is a tale for another time.


Perhaps you should invest in the following educational software.

It should prove most effective as a means of testing your skills.

If you survive these simple experiments, then perhaps we shall meet again.




The newest variation on the Devil Summoning Program, now available in a handy portable format.

Includes:
-Massive first person dungeons
-State-of-the-art Demonica Application software
-Armies of demons to make friends and/or mortal enemies of
-A tale of science fiction, humanity's screwups, and the continuing war between humans and demons
-Religious drama

Requires:
-A DS
-Lots of free time
-The will to carve one's own path through the demonic abyss known as the Schwarzwelt.






The latest rendition of the ever-popular Persona side series.
Available in the US at some point during the summer, presumably June.


Includes:
-The third opportunity to join the party, if you somehow missed the last two opportunities.
-A new female protagonist
-New Social Links, new acquaintances that may not have been around as long in the previous outings
-Revised interface (not necessarily a positive)


-If nothing else, it's flashy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MRkM-fM7wg


Outdated software:

The classic that started it all. Old-school dungeon crawls and high school drama. If you don't like lots of random battles and huge maps, this might not be for you. Then again, if you can handle Strange Journey, this should be cake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sR-LFfZAU





A nice side story experiment blending turn-based combat with strategic movement.

The art design leaves something to be desired, but it's certainly unique, and has a much better story than expected. The [strike]Messians[/strike] Shomonkai aren't complete idiots, and there's no cryptic fallen angels talking nonsense in your ear.

Greetings. Unfortunately, there is no longer time for sharing information.

The time to decide upon a path has come. Where do you stand?

An steadfast soldier of the Law, or an Agent of Chaos?


I look forward to the results of your journey.

As always, the choice is yours.

And lest you forget, young summoner...

Xenogears of Bore

I think what SJ is missing most is Wheel Chair dude.

That and more people to talk to. But mainly Wheel Chair dude. He could have been chilling in hell or whatever. Sending you the initial program that started this all.

cj iwakura

Dr. Steven? Yeah, he's in everything.

Even Imagine!



But hey, it's not too late. He could still show up.

WotanAnubis

Wait, Steven wasn't in Nocturne either, wasn't it he?

Then again, Lucifer's Call does have this other guy in a wheelchair.

cj iwakura

No, but everyone human is dead by then, and there's no longer a terminal system for him to stubbornly stay alive through.

WotanAnubis

He could've escaped into the Amala network somehow since I doubt the only cylinder in the pre-Conception world was the one down there in the hospital.

Gilder

Nocturne probably didn't have Steven because it wanted to separate itself from the last games. SMT 1, 2, and Imagine are all connected and that's why Steven is in them. Nocturne's connections are very loose and can't be tied in directly to the old games with hard evidence. The only real connection is Aleph, and that's just conjecture at best.

cj iwakura

The Messians and Gaians are still at each other's throats for a little while in Nocturne before they all die horribly, so there's that connection. No idea where that falls in the timeline.

Xenogears of Bore

It is totally him though. Why Aleph is there is a much tougher nut to crack.

SJ has almost none of that, which I guess should help people who have the "It's not SMT4, it's not, it's not, it's not!" problem. SJ thematically does short of feel like a natural progression from the neutral ending in Nocturne though...

Gilder

Nocturne gave the whole multiple worlds angle, which pretty much explains how it's separate from SMT 1 and 2, yet still has some stuff in common. 1, 2, and Imagine are together, If... is its own, Nocturne is its own, etc., etc.. It's a cheap way out of trying to tie it all together, and it's canon!

Xenogears of Bore

You can totally put if in the SMT 1/2 imagine time line if you have it take place days before the nuking, as the game is relatively short...despite the thousands of lunar cycles you go through!

Then again, no one gives a damn about IF...

Gilder

I thought If... was after when the nuke was supposed to have hit though, and not before. It doesn't really matter, it's really the forgotten game.

Xenogears of Bore

It could be anytime because it basically involves a school boy becoming insanely strong and moving his campus to a pocket dimension or some such. It's very self contained and sidestoryish, but nothing that would distance it (or necessarily relate it) to the rest of the series.

It's also the prototype game for the Persona system with it's guardian Angel system. I struggled through it once in the early part of last decade and it wasn't that bad. It's really short though.

By all accounts its way better than Nine.

cj iwakura

I thought If looked kind of neat.

Nine... not so much.

WotanAnubis

Nine?

I don't believe I've ever heard of that one.

cj iwakura

With good reason.

http://hardcoregaming101.net/megaten/megaten4.htm
(Halfway down)



I like some of the character art, though.

Xagarath

International post on my copy of SJ is still taking its precious time.

Xenogears of Bore

The wiki entry on Nine is one of the shortest I've ever seen on a game. I've accidentily clicked on wiki jpegs with longer entries. It was going to be an XBOX/ Maybe PC MMO that got turned into a single player game. It sold horrendously like most XBOX titles in Japan.

cj iwakura

HG101 has more on the game than I've ever seen anywhere. Kurt's one of the few who was crazy enough to play it.

WotanAnubis

Huh. Too bad. Nine does sound like an interesting idea that could have had potential.

Ah well.

WotanAnubis

Double post. Darnit.

Anyways, just discovered that I can fuse Camazotz in Strange Journey.

On the one hand, this gives me hope that I might also be able to fuse, say, Varna or Prithivi at some point.

On the other hand, fuck you, Bat!

Owenashi

Can anyone tell me if this is official art or fan-art for P3P? It's kinda hard to tell.

Pureauthor

Gonna say fan.

Also Sector D boss:

Turn 1 Asura Roga.

Missed everyone.

I nearly laughed out loud as I proceeded to rearrange his face(s).

Xenogears of Bore

First time through, I beat him on turn two, didn't like my alignment changing, went back. Next three times in a row he got at least two party members. I think I tried defending the third casting. He killed himself anyways because of which party members I had, but still!

iolo

Strange Journey is pretty great so far, maybe halfway through Sector C. I definitely feel like I'm only groping the surface of demon fusion, but the difficulty isn't too severe so hopefully I'm not too far off the mark.

In Special Fusion, the level listed is the level you have to be to do the fusing, yes? I've had the components of Black Frost for something like 5 character levels, and I keep getting the "not high enough level" error.

Pureauthor

You must be at least the same level as the resulting demon for any fusion.

Andy Joe

Carina

Horkos wasn't so tough. I was only level 27 and never felt in as much danger as I was during the Mitra fight. The fire skill you get on the new gun in Carina is expensive in terms of MP, so I had to expend a Chakra Pot. No big deal, items are meant to be used, right?

I've neglected the EX Missions for a while, so I'm gonna go back and do some, hopefully get up to level 30 so i can get an Incubus and fuse Black Frost.

WotanAnubis

You know what, I feel like using the Password system, so I'm gonna go throw a few demon passwords out there, see if I'm doing it right, maybe share a few demons I got some mileage out of. Whatever.


Lady Pele - Chaos
lvl 16 (original lvl 10)

Null: Fire
Weak: Ice, Elec

Maragi; Marin Karin; Strandi; Agi; Dia; Media

Password:
N8Qw++xyx8+-t8Q+
#+EnZVhzQj-s-VxS

Fairy Pyro Jack - Neutral
lvl 18 (original lvl 16)

Strong: Ice
Reflects: Fire

Agi; Maragi; Posumudi; Resist Ice; Diarama; Media

Password:
H3-YGqj0$CuGyqCm
$PT2QK6GHM0Psq5V

(Note: both 0 are zero)

Megami Parvati - Law
lvl 32

Null: Light/Expel

Megido; Mediarama; Diarama; Recarm; Zionga; Dekaja

Password:
V470%TXALr7TwJYx
DV8TLDsDta+qfzqe

(Note: 0 is again zero)

Fig-D

So I told myself I'm actually going to beat Persona 4 this time. I'm up to Mitsuo's dungeon. Things I had tolerance for at one point are really getting on my nerves at these days. Words cannot describe my hated for random dungeons. Some games do them pretty well (Torchlight) but Persona 4's are really bland.

I'm at the point where I can't wait to be done with another God awful dungeon so I can get back to working on Social Links. I totally fell behind on my Hermit link though. I remember getting a much better discount on the Fox's services by this point the last time I played the game.

aunsoph

Xagarath wrote: »

International post on my copy of SJ is still taking its precious time.

I'm in the same boat. If it doesn't get here by this Friday I'm going to cancel and order from somewhere else.

Meanwhile though, I've been playing Persona PSP some more, and I'm starting to actually get into battles that can wipe me out if I'm not careful. (Goddamnit, those Hanako toilet demons are annoying.)

The only other time I ever got wiped out was back in SEBEC, when I got ambushed by like 4 Moh Shuvuus and I think 2 Angels. The Moh Shuvuus have this ability called Binal Strike, which kills them, but brings their target to 1 HP. So yeah, they all went kamikaze, and then the Angels wiped the floor with us. Ayase was the only one left standing with 1 HP due to a lucky Evade, but both Angels were still up and with maximum health when I finally got my turn again. Tried to Escape. Failed. Dead.

Xagarath

aunsoph wrote: »

Xagarath wrote: »

International post on my copy of SJ is still taking its precious time.

I'm in the same boat. If it doesn't get here by this Friday I'm going to cancel and order from somewhere else.

Turns out mine has now shown up, just with £12 customs charges to pay

Madpanda

WotanAnubis wrote: »

You know what, I feel like using the Password system, so I'm gonna go throw a few demon passwords out there, see if I'm doing it right, maybe share a few demons I got some mileage out of. Whatever.






Megami Parvati - Law
lvl 32

Null: Light/Expel

Megido; Mediarama; Diarama; Recarm; Zionga; Dekaja

Password:
V470%TXALr7TwJYx
DV8TLDsDta+qfzqe

(Note: 0 is again zero)

Defiantly stealing this, about 1 level from being able to fuse this and the only combo's I had lacked Diarama.

WotanAnubis

Madpanda wrote: »

Defiantly stealing this, about 1 level from being able to fuse this and the only combo's I had lacked Diarama.

Lemme know if it worked. Because if it didn't, I need to figure out what I did wrong. :P

Pureauthor

Well Eridanus doesn't seem so bad, I wonder why everyone whines so much about HOLY SHIT WHERE AM I AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

YggiDee

I'm only in Bootes right now, but last night I had a nightmare about walking through a pothole-and-teleport dungeon.

Will this be my fate?

(Also I just killed Hell Biker in Nocturne. Woo!)

Steel Angel

YggiDee wrote: »

I'm only in Bootes right now, but last night I had a nightmare about walking through a pothole-and-teleport dungeon.

Will this be my fate?

Well, not at the same time . . .

Madpanda

I'm really hoping the last dungeon doesn't just throw all the previous dungeons trap tiles together in some satanic mash up.

Only at sector D but being

dropped through a pothole on to a conveyor belt that does damage all while in the dark

would put my shit in a perpetual state of flipidness.

Adellios

Sector C down!

Muting one of his adds and then letting him eat it totally neuters him for the rest of the fight.

WotanAnubis

So... defending is supposed to boost your resistance to status ailments, right?

'Cuz I'm not seeing any difference here.

Maybe I need to go grind out a few more levels.

Mattakuevan

Sooo... SJ's going well. No real problems and I"m sure I'll have it beat soon.

In light of that, I'll pose an unrelated question that's bothering me to no end:

Are you gonna do male or female MC in P3P?

Adellios

Um so Destructoid has two SJ demon codes to share here. Someone said that one of them is password only but I am not sure if its true or not.