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How does this spec (glyphs included) look for a fresh 80 to start tanking heroics? I basically gave up threat (Reckoning) for more utility.
Drop seal of command, vindication, and 1 point in Imp. Judgement and throw 'em in the Holy tree Seals of the Pure. Use Seal of Corruption/Vengeance to tank.
Why would I do this? I need all the AoE threat I can get because all the dps spam their biggest AoE all the time.
/edit: Oh, new page.
@nobody: I picked DG mainly for the buff to Sacred Shield. Not worth it? I guess I could spare the points in Imp.HoJ, but nobody is ever interrupting anything. Crusade sounds nice, though.
Currently I have almost zero hit on my gear, so I think I still need the taunt-glyph. I will switch to the SoCorr glyph when I get some hit.
Seal of command for tanking just seems weird. I guess it works in an AoE setting, but you've already got plenty of AoE abilities. Assuming you're not trying to tank heroics with 2200 GS you should be ok.
I replaced Ramaladni's Blade of Culling and slapped on the Glyph of 10 Expertise and am finding myself at 25/26 expertise. Would one of the 10 crit/10 expertise gems get me to 26?
Seal of command for tanking just seems weird. I guess it works in an AoE setting, but you've already got plenty of AoE abilities. Assuming you're not trying to tank heroics with 2200 GS you should be ok.
Oh yeah, I tanked heroics for a long time with just SoV (well, Corruption).
But he's a new tank, and he's going to get queued up with T10 equipped DPS who are going to spam AoE as soon as they hear the *Clong* of HotR (often before). I'd say at his gear level he'll need it.
There's nothing weird about tanking with SoCommand. There is no reason not to be doing so on trash. All it does is make your auto attacks and shield slam hit 3 targets instead of one. It's not even a matter of needing it. It's a matter of trash dying faster while you use it so it is more effective.
I could tank heroics using Seal of Light too, but that doesn't make it as effective. There is no other point you could put that talent point into that would be more useful for tanking than SoCommand.
I replaced Ramaladni's Blade of Culling and slapped on the Glyph of 10 Expertise and am finding myself at 25/26 expertise. Would one of the 10 crit/10 expertise gems get me to 26?
I don't think there is a 10 crit/10 expertise gem, is there? 10 expertise rating would get you to 26, though, as it's about 8 expertise rating per point of expertise. Not that it's worth regemming for it.
I replaced Ramaladni's Blade of Culling and slapped on the Glyph of 10 Expertise and am finding myself at 25/26 expertise. Would one of the 10 crit/10 expertise gems get me to 26?
It just takes time weeks of running the daily frost and weekly raids
Yeah I know looking over my paladin's protection spec I know what I did wrong but then I can just suffer till 80 and respec as I did almost 2 levels as holy
After further reflection, we don't think Divine Storm makes a good level 10 Ret ability. It really wants to be an AE attack, and it's just hard to make an AE attack a signature ability usable in as many situations as a signature attack deserves to be.
Divine Storm will probably go back into the talent tree. It won't be the 31-point though. Both the 31-point and the [level] 10 ability need to have more single-target use. That means something like 3 new abilities for Retribution and several new or modified talents on top of that. Crazy.
As you can see, we're still iterating a lot on paladins. Our lack of communication is because things are changing quickly, so it doesn't make a lot of sense to share it all until things feel a little more stable.
I think I am going to be going for Arena gear so I don't really care much for t10 raid gear. I would say that I am looking forward to the new talents coming into the retri tree, I would really like it if we could get something which works a bit like excorcism so that we can have something which works better against ranged opponents in PvP. Getting my ass handed to me by a Hunter is just annoying.
I think I am going to be going for Arena gear so I don't really care much for t10 raid gear. I would say that I am looking forward to the new talents coming into the retri tree, I would really like it if we could get something which works a bit like excorcism so that we can have something which works better against ranged opponents in PvP. Getting my ass handed to me by a Hunter is just annoying.
We are still getting holyshock baseline afaik.
But yeah, 3 new attacks for ret, that is pretty crazy.
I think I am going to be going for Arena gear so I don't really care much for t10 raid gear. I would say that I am looking forward to the new talents coming into the retri tree, I would really like it if we could get something which works a bit like excorcism so that we can have something which works better against ranged opponents in PvP. Getting my ass handed to me by a Hunter is just annoying.
If you want to do well at pvp, play as a pvp spec. I.E., prot.
I use the T9 one. It's actually better than the T10 one for most bosses (ones that involve any sort of moving and stopping your attacking), up to and including ICC25 bosses.
It's only really preferable if you are running a BV set for heroics. I tank heroics just fine in my raid gear, but then again I'm in ICC 25 level gear for the most part.
The ilvl 200 Holy Light mana cost reduction libram is far and away best in slow for any Paladin that raids. If you don't raid and all you do is heroics where you just spam Flash of Light then it really doesn't matter if you even have a libram equipped.
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turtleantGunpla Dadis the best.Registered Userregular
edited July 2010
Is the tier 10 ret libram (the one that gives strength on crusader strike) worth the badges? It sure looks nice and right now I'm using the one that gives +238 damage to divine storm.
It's a slight upgrade for bosses but a huge upgrade for trash vs. the Triumph libram.
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AngryThe glory I had witnessedwas just a sleight of handRegistered Userregular
edited July 2010
so SoC is gone and SoR gains it's aoe ability from a talent. makes sense i guess as SoR was pretty redundant outside of pvp.
oh and we get to be a walking windfury totem along with dks too and it may be a bug but sanctified retribution is sitting as a 3 point talent, but doesnt update past 1.
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Why would I do this? I need all the AoE threat I can get because all the dps spam their biggest AoE all the time.
/edit: Oh, new page.
@nobody: I picked DG mainly for the buff to Sacred Shield. Not worth it? I guess I could spare the points in Imp.HoJ, but nobody is ever interrupting anything. Crusade sounds nice, though.
Currently I have almost zero hit on my gear, so I think I still need the taunt-glyph. I will switch to the SoCorr glyph when I get some hit.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sentinels&n=Kalorie
Oh yeah, I tanked heroics for a long time with just SoV (well, Corruption).
But he's a new tank, and he's going to get queued up with T10 equipped DPS who are going to spam AoE as soon as they hear the *Clong* of HotR (often before). I'd say at his gear level he'll need it.
I could tank heroics using Seal of Light too, but that doesn't make it as effective. There is no other point you could put that talent point into that would be more useful for tanking than SoCommand.
25 is good enough.
Ugh, mine is so painful compared to yours, ugh.
I don't knoe where to go from here to be honest, I want to PvP spec as I'm going to be Arena fighting with a Rogue at 80.
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It just takes time weeks of running the daily frost and weekly raids
Yeah I know looking over my paladin's protection spec I know what I did wrong but then I can just suffer till 80 and respec as I did almost 2 levels as holy
We are still getting holyshock baseline afaik.
But yeah, 3 new attacks for ret, that is pretty crazy.
If you want to do well at pvp, play as a pvp spec. I.E., prot.
@Samphis: I'm not talking about the T10 libram or tanking raid bosses.
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The holy one is not that great I use holy shock as a mix up but it seems I will be doomed with the Nagrand one
The heroism libram was/is still god damn awesome. I starting using the triumph one just for the spell power buff though.
oh and we get to be a walking windfury totem along with dks too and it may be a bug but sanctified retribution is sitting as a 3 point talent, but doesnt update past 1.
Divine Plea reduced in cooldown by 60 seconds (it's cooldown now is currently 60 seconds)
Exorcism is instant at 2/2
Improved Crusader Strike
Obviously it's really bloated right now, but they seem to be taking it in interesting directions.