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I am so hot, and yet I can't get blown..

Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED!Registered User regular
edited April 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
So fans!

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It's getting pretty hot in my neck of the woods and AC is pretty expensive. I was curious what are some good fans (IE, not stupid expensive and/or big) that one can use to keep cool?

Also, any tips for keeping cool? Stuff like cold showers or sucking on an ice cube (I assume this works?) and other sorts of thing.

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Box fans.

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    They're cheap and they work.

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  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    How well do they work? Last time I was near one it didn't feel like it was pushing much air. Like, a lot of air in terms of area covered but not very.. quickly? If that makes sense.

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  • ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    They work quite well assuming there's air flow wherever you're at.

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  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    What if I put one right next to a window? I have an (empty) desk that sits right under one and I could put the fan there, no?

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Box Fan + Window = fucking magic

    Edit if you have two windows in two different rooms, run one sucking "in" in your bedroom, and one blowing "out" in your living room. You want to pull air into the coolest room and suck it out of the hottest room.

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  • chuck steakchuck steak Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Putting a box fan in the window so it blows out the hot air, and then some other regular fans throughout the house, worked well for us when it was insanely hot here last summer.

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Fans only really work so well when it's really hot though. I've heard that filling a bathtub with cold water, or running your shower on cold for a few minutes can really cool a room down. Huge waste of water though.

    I wouldn't do it personally.

    But also, directing air out of the room is a good thing to do. If you live in an apartment and your windows are on the same plane, try cracking your door. But only when you're there.

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  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    The room I'm in is on the second floor.

    There is no direct line from one window to another, but the hall outside leads directly to another room, which has a window.

    W
    |Room 1|
    | Room 2 |W

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    one of the cheapest ways to cool a room/house if it's really hot is to set up the fan blowing out a window, then set a cooler near the door of the room with a couple bags of ice dumped into it. Ice melts and cools the air, which wafts through the room as a cool breeze.

    Dunno if you'd want to buy six pounds of ice every day, but if you just need to get through the afternoon blaze on a couple really hot days it is fantastic.

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    that's a very good point. I'll have to try that myself.

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Airflow is really all you need - our bodies, when hydrated, are fantastic at dumping heat if there's any airflow. In fact, if there's a strong enough wind, you can actually get hypothermia in 20 C weather if you're wet.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Build an evaporative cooler, here's an example of one. When I use them I use ice.

    Sit in front of it while drinking margaritas, on the rocks.

    Also use big fans, something like this moves a lot of air. It's also loud as fuck. I use them in evap coolers outside when I bbq.

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  • CrashtardCrashtard Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    Box fans.

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    They're cheap and they work.

    Box fans are the way to go. Also, I know using AC in a whole house/apt can be expensive, but could you just pop a window AC unit in the room you spend the most time in and keep it closed?

    Also, last year someone mentioned taking a big bath towel, getting it damp with cool water, and then just using it like a blanket to sit under. That might work well when combined with a fan and some sort of beach chair.

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  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Sam's Club doesn't like hotlinking, apparently

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Magus` wrote: »
    Sam's Club doesn't like hotlinking, apparently

    Whoopsie, that does seem silly though, someone might click through and actually buy something.

    Maybe amazon won't mind as much.

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  • Forbe!Forbe! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I place my box fan facing out of my main room, then open a window in another room, slightly smaller than the opening of the fanned window. I get a really nice draft going through here.

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited April 2010
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  • WassermeloneWassermelone Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Yeah I also have done the box fan facing outwards + open window elsewhere to create airflow trick. It works wonders.

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  • LieberkuhnLieberkuhn __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2010
    There are two factors in using a fan to keep cool: 1. intensity of air movement and 2. amount of moisture on the skin.

    So if your fan isn't generating enough air movement to keep you comfortable, try getting wet. Wet hair and shirt are particularly effective if you don't mind looking like you just jumped in a pool with your clothes on. A less embarrassing tactic is to keep a spray bottle full of water nearby, and continually spritz yourself in the face and neck with it.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2010
    Heat rises. Heat moves from high pressure areas to low pressure areas. There's a science to this.

    Are you above anyone? Do you live in an apartment? Do you live on the ground floor? Is there a basement near by?

    Dyscord's idea is a really, really good one and can actually be improved by a stationary fan on the other side of the ice pointing at where you're sitting/sleeping. And hey, guess what? Your freezer in your fridge is at sub-zero temps alllllll day long!

    That means you can freeze huge quantities of ice while you sleep/work without increasing your energy usage substantially, then use said ice to chill your ass when you're playing WoW. Also, use multiple small tupperware or of the ilk containers instead of one large one to speed chilling, and use ice cold water to fill said tupperwares. Assuming you're living in an apartment.

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  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I live above the living room which is normally a fairly empty place. It's an apartment.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2010
    Do the airflow thing. Every day look at which direction the wind blows and turn your fans so that they cooperate, and rush wind through your place. That alone will be huge.

    If you have windows where you can leave a gap at the top and at the bottom (usually only in really old places), do so. Fresh air comes through the bottom, heat rises, pushes out the top.

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Pheezer wrote: »
    Heat rises. Heat moves from high pressure areas to low pressure areas. There's a science to this.

    Are you above anyone? Do you live in an apartment? Do you live on the ground floor? Is there a basement near by?

    Dyscord's idea is a really, really good one and can actually be improved by a stationary fan on the other side of the ice pointing at where you're sitting/sleeping. And hey, guess what? Your freezer in your fridge is at sub-zero temps alllllll day long!

    That means you can freeze huge quantities of ice while you sleep/work without increasing your energy usage substantially, then use said ice to chill your ass when you're playing WoW. Also, use multiple small tupperware or of the ilk containers instead of one large one to speed chilling, and use ice cold water to fill said tupperwares. Assuming you're living in an apartment.

    It's worth understanding though that when you're cooling something off, you're effectively pulling the energy/heat out of it by creating a flow for that energy to move in. If you put water into your freezer to place in front of your fan, it will pull x amount of energy (joules?) out of the water and then the coolant system will turn right around and expel that heat into your room.

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  • Seattle ThreadSeattle Thread Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I think he means to say that since the freezer is there and ready, you can make your own ice rather than buy it at the store.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2010
    Pheezer wrote: »
    Heat rises. Heat moves from high pressure areas to low pressure areas. There's a science to this.

    Are you above anyone? Do you live in an apartment? Do you live on the ground floor? Is there a basement near by?

    Dyscord's idea is a really, really good one and can actually be improved by a stationary fan on the other side of the ice pointing at where you're sitting/sleeping. And hey, guess what? Your freezer in your fridge is at sub-zero temps alllllll day long!

    That means you can freeze huge quantities of ice while you sleep/work without increasing your energy usage substantially, then use said ice to chill your ass when you're playing WoW. Also, use multiple small tupperware or of the ilk containers instead of one large one to speed chilling, and use ice cold water to fill said tupperwares. Assuming you're living in an apartment.

    It's worth understanding though that when you're cooling something off, you're effectively pulling the energy/heat out of it by creating a flow for that energy to move in. If you put water into your freezer to place in front of your fan, it will pull x amount of energy (joules?) out of the water and then the coolant system will turn right around and expel that heat into your room.

    Your freezer is probably more efficient at cooling a small volume of something that's already near freezing to freezing plus the energy usage of a small fan than an air conditioner is at cooling an entire room. If he's paying for water, maybe the margin is slimmer, but I'm willing to bet that he not only saves money over the operating cost of an air conditioner but also over the purchase cost of one added in.

    Think about it, you've got the AC unit blowing air AND performing the function that the freezer is, but over a huge volume of air. The freezer runs regardless of whether you have AC going or not. It's also a smaller area, and probably a higher efficiency device. It's gonna save you money to blow directional air over a block of ice you froze at where you're sitting vs. cooling the air in a large room.

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Yeah, that's true.

    e: I was just talking about buying ice versus making it, really.

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  • chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    According to my wife, who lived in a pretty hot place in fairly warm valley, well placed ice packs can do wonders: back of the knees, stomach, kidneys, back of the neck. Top o' the head is apparently always good.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I've had good luck with Honeywell brand fans, they're surprisingly powerful for their size.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    KalTorak wrote: »
    I've had good luck with Honeywell brand fans, they're surprisingly powerful for their size.

    I have a "stick" style one that works great. It rotates and has an oscillating setting.

    But for easiest, the two box-fan setup is the best ROI.

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  • Mom2KatMom2Kat Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Also remember to cose the blinds on any windows once the sun starts shinning in them. I lived in a town that saw 30+ degree summers and what we did was open the windows and door late at night to let the coll air in and once the sun was up and starting to heath things up closed the dark curtins in the living room to keep the sun out. Also the 2 boxfans in different windows is wonderfull. Helped me survive the hottest summer vicoria had seen in 20 years while 9 months pregnant. And our living room wall was a sliding glass door facing the setting sun.

    either that or gettting a window ac and putting in the room you use the most and keep the door closed to that room. We have a mid sized one that keeps the main part of or prefab home nice and cool. We only run it in the mid afternoon to late evening.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2010
    Whatever you buy, make sure to open it up and clear out the dust every couple of months - especially with those wire-frame fans, the dust can build up a lot before it gets really noticeable, and it cuts the airflow like you wouldn't believe.

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    KalTorak wrote: »
    I've had good luck with Honeywell brand fans, they're surprisingly powerful for their size.

    Yeah, I have 2 of the Tornado fans, one at home and one at work, and even on Low they're amazing. I'm pretty sure Honeywell makes the prop engines for the Predator UAVs, if that means anything.

    Another thing you can do is put reflective material on your windows. Tin foil would probably work.

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  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    chromdom wrote: »
    According to my wife, who lived in a pretty hot place in fairly warm valley, well placed ice packs can do wonders: back of the knees, stomach, kidneys, back of the neck. Top o' the head is apparently always good.

    Yep. Anywhere where there is lots of blood flow at the surface.

    I used to cook at a restaurant, and a wet towel left in the freezer then draped over the neck always did wonders.

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  • Captain VashCaptain Vash Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    KalTorak wrote: »
    I've had good luck with Honeywell brand fans, they're surprisingly powerful for their size.

    Yeah, I have 2 of the Tornado fans, one at home and one at work, and even on Low they're amazing. I'm pretty sure Honeywell makes the prop engines for the Predator UAVs, if that means anything.

    Another thing you can do is put reflective material on your windows. Tin foil would probably work.

    Careful about this if your home is street side, you don't want to blind any motorists.

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  • BeltaineBeltaine BOO BOO DOO DE DOORegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Dyson Air Multiplier

    Added bonus of making people go "WTF is that?"

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Those are so cool, but $300??

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  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Yeah and apparently it's not really a huge difference over traditional fans which makes the 300 price tag even more of a 'WTF'

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  • desperaterobotsdesperaterobots perth, ausRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    A Dyson AirBlade or whatever they're called are just ego-stroking premium lifestyle purchases for empty-nesters or stockbrockers who have too much money.

    I still totally want one.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    As much as I like cooling an entire place with two fans, when I'm hot I need one pointing right at me. I am crazy happy with a tiny, a bit loud but not horrible, Honeywell. When considering air flow, the smaller the distance between the blade and its housing, the better.

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  • desperaterobotsdesperaterobots perth, ausRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Before I bought an energy sapping air conditioner, I would sleep naked under a damp towel with a fan blasting on me.

    Creepy in so many ways, but so very icy.

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