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[Supernatural]: This is why we can't have nice things, Sam.
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Seeing how things are working out, i.e. Castiel, and how they have obvious control over time, I wouldn't be very surprised if it was real. It doesn;'t even matter that much, Sam might have good in him but only last episode they were going on about what a raging prick he is and at the end of the day he is just a vessel and even in extreme circumstances, before Bobby, I've never seen anyone break possession and thats just regular Black-Eyed demons.
He seems to be forgetting that Sam's yes in that timeline was hinted at being A) Completely alone and
In this instance, Sam saying "Yes" wouldn't be caving into becoming a vessel, but setting himself up as a trap. The difference is in the will to fight.
Did you forget the whole plot point that they'd abandoned each other, and in despair that's why Sam said yes?
Frankly, your constant whining about this season is getting old. I think it's been fucking fantastic, and some of us like the stand-alone episodes.
If he's telling the truth... you can't picture him playing Dean for a fool? We don't know anything about him besides the fact he claims to be the big man on campus. Supernatural has had plenty of plot twists and shit you generally don't see coming. With Death being such a damn awesome character I can totally picture them coming up with a way to keep him around. It may be tricky if he really is what he claims, but it's the writer's world to mold.
Most people think it's fuckin fantastic, I have seen very little negative feedback.
And while I'm no fan of stand-alone episodes in any series, Supernatural's pacing feels perfect.
Question... are the horsemen dead? What happened after they were defeated?
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And the demon-guy from Stanford said something about how the other two horsemen were alive but were basically comatose and useless. All their power comes from their rings (at least in the case of the 3 non-death dudes).
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Getting a Trickster episode in season 6 would seriously make my year.
death seemed to rank higher than anything we've seen in the show, including archangels
if they were all even close to equivalent, war should have been making countries fire nukes with a wave of his hand, pestilence should have been making everyone on the continent puke their guts out, and famine should have dried up every farm and turned every grocery store aisle to dust in the hemisphere
And yet they had years of being brothers before hand and this didn't perk Sam up inside Lucifer to stop him snapping his brothers neck. Whats your point?
Stand alone episodes are fine but when the apocalypse is going on, them serving the greater arc or being comparatively LARGE would be somewhat beneficial. You can like stand-alone episodes all you want but you cannot deny they've come at the expense of actually impressive Horsemen and real character development for the latter half of this season. We had setup for Pestilence, episode about viruses associated with Pestilence but no Pestilence then Pestilence who gets owned in 2 minutes and posed less threat than the weird monster in the psychiatric ward a few episodes ago. I was sucking this shows goose before the break so lets not get confused and think I just hate on this show because. And its not whining, Im giving my opinion on an episode by episode basis, that they're failing to impress lately and squandering all their potential is not my fault.
Disliking the show is all fine and good and your points are legit, except for this one...
Lucifer had been inside Sam for a while, Sam is long gone when he snaps Dean's neck. Furthermore, in the future, everyone ditched Sam, I'm sure that pushed him over the deep end. Now Cass, Dean, and Bobby are all in his corner and have got his back. Having the people he care's about have FAITH in him, well, that will most certainly have a major effect on him!
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I do get the point but this is more info thats never been clarified. Demons possess humans, they can leave and they're fine. Angels the same.
Archangels though burn through the hosts unless they have a perfect one and even then, once they leave the body may be alive but the mind is destroyed, seemingly anyway. But no time frame is given for any of this but Sam, of all people, who can barely withstand the temptation of demon blood, overcoming the archangel who defied God? Even if its 3 seconds in I'd call foul on that but I doubt this is what will happen considering the amount of setup for it.
There are other things like reviving the third Winchester brother and making him a valid vessel for Michael while Sam is only valid for Lucifer (Yes demon blood) but why does Lucifers vessel need demon blood to survive when hes quite clearly not demonic at all and yet Michaels does not? Add in the ring solution and it just seems like they started making shit up at some point, throwing in demon blood with possession to further tempt Sam and throwing in the third Winchester and making him a valid vessel just because.
I might be misremembering but didn't Zach say he wasn't really a vessel? It was just to tempt Dean? But Cas seems to think he is valid.
Would liked to have seen more of Lucifers legendary temptations and corruption as well.
I also like (in that book) the hints that Hell is a great place really, why torture souls? he just wants to lure them away from God to piss him off.
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Man, I'm gonna miss this show.
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There was a significant change of gears between the 2nd and 3rd season. And that turned out all right.
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Also, the lady taking over has been with the show from the start and Kripke gave her the top spot after she told him her idea for a season 6 arc.
At any rate, it can't be worse than Buffy season 6, and I managed to soldier through that...
Do... Re... Mi... So... Fa.... Do... Re.... Do...
Forget it...
Except a Lost spoiler. Arrrg!
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And now the hellatus until s6.
Cas molotoving Michael was brilliant. His return and departure felt a little weak after going out with a bang like he did, but I suppose it makes sense that he would be rewarded in the end.
Jared Padalecki is awesome as Lucifer, especially when he lost his cool near the end. Kinda sad Lucifer's gone, now.
The dun dun dunnn shot at the end of the ep is interesting. I'm gonna have to watch it again to see if I can get a better read of Sam's face. There's going to be so much speculation.
Do... Re... Mi... So... Fa.... Do... Re.... Do...
Forget it...
This was pretty much the best season finale ever. It would have been the perfect series finale, too. I can't remember the last TV show I watched that had my heart racing like that.
They have at least one more season. This would have been the series finale IF it had not been renewed. It's also how they wanted to end it. But the ratings and Demographics were just to good
But, seriously, wow. Pretty amazing. Not sure what's up with everything:
Definitely a great finale, though.
- He 'came back wrong' (likely?)
How wrong?
Evil? (possibly. The shattering light was ominous. The finale was kind of his redemption, though...)
Amnesiac? (he tracked down Dean, so probably not?)
????? (seriously, what? That expression was really hard to pin down)
- He's still Lucifer (unlikely, since this was supposed to wrap it all up)
- The shattering light was just a result of his resurrection, and doesn't mean anything other than a power (God) brought him back
If he's normal, then what's up with the ominousness?
- He went totally badass and clawed his way out of hell (maybe. The last few episodes were rather kind to Sam. But no, they wouldn't do that.)
- He has powers, either he's still super hopped up on the gallons of blood he chugged, or it's something new (ehh... probably not)
Also
Do... Re... Mi... So... Fa.... Do... Re.... Do...
Forget it...
Have to see what's up with
And of course, what's up with Sam?
And Bobby, does he still need to get his soul back?
Is Castiel gone for good? I thought the actor said he was coming back in season 6.
And I usually hate voice overs, but the ones in this episode were damn hard to complain about.
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The voice over made sense, considering who was doing it.
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Yes I agree with your spoiler, perhaps.
Sam is aware of something horrible coming (an insurrection from hell now that lucifer is back in the pit?) and he needs dean. So now the conflict would be dean wanting to be left alone and sam telling him they have to hunt?
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That was the not so subtle exit of Kripke, I don't think that was supposed to be god, more that chuck knew his time was up (he had one final drink) and his story was over. One last shot for the road and away he went.
Idle speculation of course.
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As for the finale, eh, it wasn't bad. Left more questions than it answered, and the pacing felt odd to me. Not bad, though.
"Uh... no?"