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Outcrossing with Neandertals. Sexy.

YoSoyTheWalrusYoSoyTheWalrus Registered User regular
edited May 2010 in Social Entropy++
So Science (the magazine) has some cool news today!

They sequenced the Neandertal genome!


This is a Neandertal:
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and they haven't been around for like 30,000 years. They had bigger heads than we do, they used to live in Europe mostly, and they are named for the region in Germany where their remains were first discovered.

These science dudes used the genome to show that humans and Neandertals interbred with each other at least a little bit during the ~1,000 years we coexisted. That's nasty, yo. Or hot? Maybe soon there will be Neadertal porn.

...there is probably already Neandertal porn.


Anyway the paper is freely available to the public, which is awesome. There is also an article that is more for laymen that is here.

This is incredibly cool to me since this is the exact kind of thing I do for work, but maybe I am the only one who thinks sequencing 30,000 year old DNA is cool.

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    GAPS

    FOSSIL RECORD

    YOU HAVEN'T PROVED ANYTHING

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  • SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
  • RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    oh there's already caveman/neanderthal porn

    trust me

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  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So that's where the <race of choice> come from.

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    What spring does with the cherry trees.
  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    gimme my mammoth

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  • BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Was he your lawyer?

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    Battletag BYToady#1454
  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    didn't we end up driving them to cliff-face caves in the south of France, where they made their last stand?

    VICTORY

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    the fate of the neaderthal is also up for debate as to wether they were bred out/ simply died out/ or were hunted down by early humans

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I'd hit it

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  • RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    does that paper say africans who are black? have no relation to neanderthals

    because dang


    not african americans

    dang it is hard to come up with a good name for what I'm trying to say

    them there coloreds

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    the fate of the neaderthal is also up for debate as to wether they were bred out/ simply died out/ or were hunted down by early humans

    hiding amongst us

    hidden

    waiting for the chance to strike us down

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  • AirAir Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    how hot was betty rubble

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Raneados wrote: »
    does that paper say african americans have no relation to neanderthals

    because dang

    neanderthals are not part of the homo sapien genetic line

    there was a split with our evolutionary ancestors that resulted in neanderthals

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  • YoSoyTheWalrusYoSoyTheWalrus Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Neandertals were the original neckbeards.

    Also yeah I guess they have more in common with Europeans than anyone else genetically.

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    nat geo's human family tree video suggested the badass final stand theory

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  • YoSoyTheWalrusYoSoyTheWalrus Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Raneados wrote: »
    does that paper say african americans have no relation to neanderthals

    because dang

    neanderthals are not part of the homo sapien genetic line

    there was a split with our evolutionary ancestors that resulted in neanderthals

    True, but the coolest part of this thing is that we apparently bred with each other! Modern people have Neandertal genes. That is crazy to me.

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  • RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Raneados wrote: »
    does that paper say african americans have no relation to neanderthals

    because dang

    neanderthals are not part of the homo sapien genetic line

    there was a split with our evolutionary ancestors that resulted in neanderthals

    oh goddamnit I knew that

    i am being dumb tonight from all the love i am giving out

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Neandertals were the original neckbeards.

    Also yeah I guess they have more in common with Europeans than anyone else genetically.

    because they essentially only lived in europe and possibly central and western asia

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  • thorpethorpe Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    the fate of the neaderthal is also up for debate as to wether they were bred out/ simply died out/ or were hunted down by early humans

    Probably all three. There's no real evidence or much reason to believe that humans would just decide spontaneously across eurasia to wipe out neanderthals in totality, but I doubt we ignored each other either.

    It's pretty crazy to think how just a (relatively) short few thousand years ago homo sapiens was chilling with a bunch of other intelligent plains walking apes.

    But there could only be one

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Also yeah I guess they have more in common with Europeans than anyone else genetically.
    wait what

    how?

    was the interbreeding that common?

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Raneados wrote: »
    does that paper say african americans have no relation to neanderthals

    because dang

    neanderthals are not part of the homo sapien genetic line

    there was a split with our evolutionary ancestors that resulted in neanderthals

    True, but the coolest part of this thing is that we apparently bred with each other! Modern people have Neandertal genes. That is crazy to me.

    uh did the paper actually say that

    interbreeding and producing viable and sustainable offspring are very different

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  • .avi.avi regular
    edited May 2010
    how u know so much bout nenderthals

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    .avi wrote: »
    how u know so much bout nenderthals

    I'm vandal savage

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  • RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    .avi wrote: »
    how u know so much bout nenderthals

    i assume he read a book or two instead of doing drugs all the time


    ahem

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    .avi wrote: »
    how u know so much bout nenderthals

    Look we've got one right here!

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  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    It's too bad they died out, we could've been like the Master Race and they the servants.

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  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    HUMANS: So easy a caveman can do it.


    them.


    whatever.

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    It's too bad they died out, we could've been like the Master Race and they the servants.
    but we already have that

    some would argue

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    It's too bad they died out, we could've been like the Master Race and they the servants.

    this may have actually happened at some point btw

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    This thread is putting very disturbing images in my head

    Images I need brain bleach to clense

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    It's too bad they died out, we could've been like the Master Race and they the servants.

    this may have actually happened at some point btw

    never works out well in fiction, though

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  • scarlet ave.scarlet ave. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    It's like they're writing the plot of Assassin's Creed 3 right in front of our eyes

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  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    It's too bad they died out, we could've been like the Master Race and they the servants.

    this may have actually happened at some point btw

    This is pretty cool.

    I should read up on these [strike]coloreds[/strike] Neanderthals.

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  • UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I just interbred in my pants

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  • YoSoyTheWalrusYoSoyTheWalrus Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Raneados wrote: »
    does that paper say african americans have no relation to neanderthals

    because dang

    neanderthals are not part of the homo sapien genetic line

    there was a split with our evolutionary ancestors that resulted in neanderthals

    True, but the coolest part of this thing is that we apparently bred with each other! Modern people have Neandertal genes. That is crazy to me.

    uh did the paper actually say that

    interbreeding and producing viable and sustainable offspring are very different
    By comparing this composite Neandertal genome with the complete genomes of five living humans from different parts of the world, the researchers found that both Europeans and Asians share 1% to 4% of their nuclear DNA with Neandertals. But Africans do not. This suggests that early modern humans interbred with Neandertals after moderns left Africa, but before they spread into Asia and Europe. The evidence showing interbreeding is "incontrovertible," says paleoanthropologist John Hawks of the University of Wisconsin, Madison, who was not involved in the work. "There's no other way you can explain this."

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  • XyyzXyyz Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    It's too bad they died out, we could've been like the Master Race and they the servants.

    As far as I remember they were bigger than us, stronger than us and had slightly larger brains.

    It would probably have been the other way around.

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    how did we ruin their shit, then?

    did we use sky cake?

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  • RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    psh

    obviously there were different and therefore worse

    that's how discrimination works, xyyz

    geez ain't you ever been white

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    We absorbed them.

    we are the neanderthals

    well... not africans.

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  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    so...in a way it's the africans who are the real master race, with the rest of humanity being mutts of varying degrees.

    ain't that ironic

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