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Fallout 3 or Oblivion?

NebulousQNebulousQ Registered User regular
edited May 2010 in Games and Technology
I am thinking of buying either Fallout 3 or Oblivion, with mods in mind for both, and am wondering which I should purchase?

I am leaning toward Oblivion, which I have partly played on Xbox360, but am worried about the poor combat and lack of flying spells. I enjoyed the flying spells and the enchanting system of Morrowind which were both gutted in Oblivion. However Oblivion has a wealth of mods, which I really like.

I don't know much about Fallout 3 or the mods it has, but if it is Oblivion with guns, as some have said, then its combat is probably much better than Oblivions. I understand and accept that it is different than the previous Fallout games.

Which game is more fun, replayable, and has the better character growth/level up system? I will be purchasing for the PC.

Thanks in advance for your advice!

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  • TanolenTanolen Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Fallout 3. It is alot more interesting to explore. Also you can find the best items or be given them through quests. Whereas all the best stuff in oblivion is common gear enchanted up. Also the enemies aren't all level scaling.

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  • Slyninja39Slyninja39 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I played Oblivion a whole bunch and tried to play Fallout 3. I just couldn't get into Fallout. I realize that Oblivion can be a little generic, but I still like it much better than Fallout 3.

    I've never been a fan of the post apocalyptic genre for some reason.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Neither. Play Morrowind, its better than both.

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  • KamiKami Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    This thread will turn into a warzone, methinks :lol:

    My opinion? As much as I love both, if you're wanting to use mods and the like, go for Oblivion. It'll improve combat drastically, and your experience can be customized to your liking (in regards to leveling up, etc).

    You can't go wrong with either for PC, though. :^:

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  • KlashKlash Lost... ... in the rainRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    F3, without a doubt. Go GOTY, and forget Oblivion.

    Oblivion has a deeper system in place, but it feels absolutely hollow. It just doesn't offer anything.

    Fallout 3 on the other hand has atmosphere (especially in the DLC) the likes of which I've never experienced before. The main quest is pretty well irrelevant, but the countless little moments out in the Wasteland, those wonderful random encounters... Ah, exploration in it is great. Gameplay is also vastly superior to Oblivion because it isn't bogged down in hollow "depth". Also, infinitely more intuitive.


    Both my experiences are with complete DLC, most recent patches and no mods.

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  • ArcticMonkeyArcticMonkey Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I'd go for Fallout 3. In my opinion it's world is more interesting, and the side quests are more interesting. (The main quest is neither games strong point). The leveling system in Fallout is also a large improvement over Oblivion.
    The first time I played Oblivion I chanced on the worst spec possible, so every time I leveled I felt less powerful.
    Which is a major letdown in an RPG.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    It's harder to permanently fuck up your character in Fallout 3 than it is in Oblivion.

    Also,

    Now I'm loooost in Obliiiviooooon!

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  • DuffelDuffel jacobkosh Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Having given both a playthrough recently, I say that, all other things being equal (you like both settings, etc.), Fallout 3. Definitely.

    Oblivion is not a terrible game but it definitely feels lacking compared to Fallout 3.

    That said, Fallout: New Vegas will be coming out in about six months, and it looks like it's going to much better than FO3... so you may want to keep that in mind. I haven't heard anything about a new Elder Scrolls game, so you may have to wait a good long while for that kind of fix.

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  • MeiteronMeiteron Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Fallout 3, in a lot of ways, trumps Oblivion. It's more fun to explore. Random areas are more interesting. Quests are much more involved. The combat is better. The plot, while not fantastic, is a hell of a lot better and more varied than Oblivion.

    But all that comes from a comparison of vanilla, unmodded copies of the games, and modding them changes the matchup quite a bit.

    I personally found a super-modded-up Oblivion (FCOM, to be specific) to be more fun than Fallout 3 with similar F3 overhaul mods. Oblivion's been around for awhile and people have been modding the shit out of it for quite some time. Most of the shortcomings I mentioned up there have mods to correct them (within reason) and there is an absolute shitton of fan-made content available (with the standard ratio of crap :: quality, of course). In the end, I spent far more time playing Oblivion modded up to it's eyeballs then I ever did playing F3, modded or otherwise.

    Of course, my experience with both games is almost a year ago, when Oblivion had 2-3 times the amount of time devoted to making really good mods to overcome the game's shortcomings. It's very likely modders have stepped up to do similar things to Fallout 3 by now, but you'd have to look into that yourself.

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  • override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Fallout 3, it was a great game with all the dialogue written by a gifted monkey.


    I really really hope new vegas is just fallout 3 with writing on par with the originals.

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  • FoodFood Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I love oblivion but i have to say fallout 3 is a better game when it comes down to it.

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  • PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Fallout 3 is less bad than Oblivion. Both games are the low points in their respective series, though.

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  • YougottawannaYougottawanna Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I second whoever said Morrowind, but between FO3 and Oblivion I say Fallout.

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  • Garret DoriganGarret Dorigan "Why can't I be DLC for UMvC3?"Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Fallout 3 is less bad than Oblivion. Both games are the low points in their respective series, though.

    Seconded. Don't get me wrong, I played both to hell and back... but hmmm... you know? Hmmm...

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  • SpecTrE3353SpecTrE3353 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I have played both games multiple times and I have played both games recently. Without a doubt, Fallout 3 is a far superior game. They have many similarities but Fallout does pretty much everything better.

    Anyone else in this thread who feels otherwise is wrong. And also stupid.

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  • DHS OdiumDHS Odium Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Both? I've played a shit ton of both games, vanilla too, as I have them on the 360. I like the world and atmosphere of Oblivion (ditto with Fallout 3), and the Dark Brotherhood quests are excellent, as is Shivering Isles. Definitely worth playing. Fallout 3 I think it a little better overall, I really like VATS, and I love Fallout 1 and 2 and it was nice to revisit the setting. I think FO3 has the better story and dialogue, which I enjoy. I'd say why not get both, they will last you a very long time, and when you're finished with everything they both have to offer, New Vegas should be out.

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  • LokiLoki Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Do both Oblivion and Fallout 3 have that weird thing where when you talk to an NPC, they stand rigidly straight and creepily stare straight at you while their face woodenly animates while they speak? I want to play both of these, but from what I've seen, speaking to an NPC would creep the shit out of me.

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  • Darth NathanDarth Nathan Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    It seems to me that if you're buying both games with the intent of modding them, then the base gameplay of each is pretty much a moot point, as mods change nearly all of it.

    If that's the case, just buy whichever one appeals to you most thematically.

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  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Fallout 3. And,

    [edit]
    -Loki- wrote: »
    Do both Oblivion and Fallout 3 have that weird thing where when you talk to an NPC, they stand rigidly straight and creepily stare straight at you while their face woodenly animates while they speak?
    Yes.[/edit]

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Fallout 3 is Oblivion with guns and a lower quantity of horrid unpolished stuff.

    So go with Fallout 3.

    If only for the headshots.

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  • LokiLoki Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Chance wrote: »
    Fallout 3. And,

    [edit]
    -Loki- wrote: »
    Do both Oblivion and Fallout 3 have that weird thing where when you talk to an NPC, they stand rigidly straight and creepily stare straight at you while their face woodenly animates while they speak?
    Yes.[/edit]

    Bugger. I wanted to play F3...

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  • Radikal_DreamerRadikal_Dreamer Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Personally I'd say Fallout 3 by far, but that's because I believe Bethesda does almost nothing well themselves, so the only saving grace of either of the games is the artstyle/atmosphere of Fallout 3, and that's because it wasn't really created by them.

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  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    -Loki- wrote: »
    Chance wrote: »
    Fallout 3. And,

    [edit]
    -Loki- wrote: »
    Do both Oblivion and Fallout 3 have that weird thing where when you talk to an NPC, they stand rigidly straight and creepily stare straight at you while their face woodenly animates while they speak?
    Yes.[/edit]

    Bugger. I wanted to play F3...

    You still should.

    More than that, you need to.

    I recommend small arms, and sneak.Pump the agility (and intelligence).

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  • LokiLoki Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    But those faces. those faces...

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    The real question is why are you choosing between these two games?

    is it because you've played Morrowind and want more of the same? Oblivion delivers that better than Fallout 3, as long as you mod it.

    Is it because you've heard they're kind of good and want to try them out? If so, play Morrowind, its better than both of them both modded and unmodded.

    Or is it because you're looking for games to play? if so, get both, they're both good games as long as you've playted Morrowind before.

    Basically what I'm saying is get Morrowind before either of these two if you haven't played it.

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Chance wrote: »
    Fallout 3. And,

    [edit]
    -Loki- wrote: »
    Do both Oblivion and Fallout 3 have that weird thing where when you talk to an NPC, they stand rigidly straight and creepily stare straight at you while their face woodenly animates while they speak?
    Yes.[/edit]

    Dear Bethesda,

    Copy Bioware. We don't need speech, just camera angels. Final Fantasy got by for 3 3d games before it needed them.

    Sincerely,

    Me

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  • NebulousQNebulousQ Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Just to clarify a few things:

    1) I don't really plan on playing whichever game I get vanilla. I plan to cherry pick mods out and apply them. This is definitely one thing Bethesda has going for them, that is the modability of their games.

    2) I have played Morrowwind. While I immensely enjoyed it, I cannot go back to its horrible one click combat.

    If Oblivion had kept Morrowwind's freedom of movement (flying) and its enchanting system then I would have definitely picked up Oblivion, but they gutted both in Oblivion. Also Oblivion's combat seems to be just a minor improvement over Morrowwinds, so I am wondering if I should just skip over to Fallout 3. But then Oblivions mods... and hence why I have come to the forums for some guidance.

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  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Oblivion's combat feels a lot better than Morrowind's, mostly because it got rid of the percent chance to hit. Although, if I recall correctly, there's a mod out there that makes Morrowind's combat more in line with Oblivion.

    Still, it's not very good in either game.

    While I think FO3 is objectively a better game than Oblivion, I think if you're not interested in the setting, the game just isn't going to click with you. My girlfriend loves Oblivion, but couldn't get into Fallout 3 because she found the environment depressing and monotonous.

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  • rational vashrational vash Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I don't get the love for morrowwind. The combat system was standing in front of a guy and hitting him over and over again while the game rolls dice and plays for you.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I don't get the love for morrowwind. The combat system was standing in front of a guy and hitting him over and over again while the game rolls dice and plays for you.
    The reason for the love for Morrowind was that there is more to a game than just the combat system. If you wanted just a great combat system go play an FPS.

    However, I agree with you on the combat system's terribleness.

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  • Captain KCaptain K Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    -Loki- wrote: »
    Do both Oblivion and Fallout 3 have that weird thing where when you talk to an NPC, they stand rigidly straight and creepily stare straight at you while their face woodenly animates while they speak? I want to play both of these, but from what I've seen, speaking to an NPC would creep the shit out of me.

    It's far worse in Oblivion, where something like five voice actors did the dialogue for hundreds of generic NPCs.

    Every time you talk to someone, it's just a tiny flip of a coin whether you're going to be speaking to Black Dude, Black Chick, White Dude, British White Dude, or White Chick.

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Captain K wrote: »
    -Loki- wrote: »
    Do both Oblivion and Fallout 3 have that weird thing where when you talk to an NPC, they stand rigidly straight and creepily stare straight at you while their face woodenly animates while they speak? I want to play both of these, but from what I've seen, speaking to an NPC would creep the shit out of me.

    It's far worse in Oblivion, where something like five voice actors did the dialogue for hundreds of generic NPCs.

    Every time you talk to someone, it's just a tiny flip of a coin whether you're going to be speaking to Black Dude, Black Chick, White Dude, British White Dude, or White Chick.

    Can we just buy everyone at Bethesda a copy of Mass Effect so they know how its done?

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Neither.
    Wait for Fallout New Vegas.

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  • DsmartDsmart Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I think they both suck, to be honest. If you want a better version of fallout 3 (though not perfect) try the stalker games, if you want a decent version of oblivion try morrowind (or the witcher maybe? there isn't really a direct analogue)

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    fallout 3 has barely any similarities to STALKER and the elder scrolls games are very very different to the witcher


    OP, get fallout 3

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  • DsmartDsmart Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Post-apocalyptic wasteland with some stat tracking and actually good combat. So no, its not directly analagous to f3 but it offers a somewhat comparable experience and is just plain better


    Not trying to force my opinions here, but I never got how anyone could see F3 or Oblivion as fun much less good games.

    There is nothing there.

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  • PasteePastee Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Buy one, and if you like it, buy the other. There are enough similarities between the two games that you'll probably enjoy time spent with both.

    If you don't like the first one you buy, return it and never look back.

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  • DsmartDsmart Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    My experience may be tainted by having played F3 on 360 and having to deal with the pip boy (Literally the worst user interface ever created for an RPG)

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Both Oblivion and Fallout 3 were my first steps into each of those series (TES and Fallout). And frankly, Fallout 3 left a way bigger impression on me. It's got a superior setting, and whatever mechanics are shared between the two games Fallout 3 has improved upon.

    Oblivion is generic fantasy land with its own take on how several classic fantasy races behave and look, sorta. It hasn't made a strong case for why I should bother with The Elder Scrolls, but because people have insisted I will eventually give Morrowind and Daggerfall a try.

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  • SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    They're both fine choices and Oblivion is 150 points on Goozex now. So get both.

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