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Hunting a second job (was Gamestop, now starting own business?)

BeltaineBeltaine BOO BOO DOO DE DOORegistered User regular
edited May 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
So, I've come to the conclusion that I will remain in debt forever if I don't do something to yield more income. I'm currently a Network Admin for a public school system. Been here for 8 years and love the job. However, there's not much room for raises and/or promotion, so I've started applying for part-time employment nights and weekends that I can work in addition to my day job for about 18-24 months to get all my debts paid off.

This week I'm hitting the local Best Buy and Gamestop.

I've hit a snag on the Gamestop application, though.

There's a section titled "Video Game / Software Knowledge" with the following blanks to fill in:
  • Video Game Systems
  • Game Software Knowledge
  • PC Knowledge

I'm not sure what kind of answer they're looking for, especially since I'm only given enough space in each one for just a fairly short sentence.

I've gamed ever since the original Atari system and have owned every console worth owning since then. (and some that weren't worth owning).

I've also gamed on PC since I got my first Intel 8088(XT) IBM compatible when I was 12, and have built my own PC's updating them every 18-24 months religiously since I got out of High School.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2010
    I haven't personally had the job but I've known a person or two:
    it will make you hate games. It will also make you hate people but all retail work does that.

    It's also shitty minimum wage with inconsistent shifts and crappy benefits.

    You'd make the most money sidelining as a consultant. Consultants get to charge absurd fees.
    Second is waitering or bartending at a nice-ish restaurant or club.

    Retail jobs are a terrible time investment for what you want and you'll probably see a conflict in hours anyhow.

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  • solsovlysolsovly Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Why would you ever want to work there unless you are a student? If your goal is to pay off debts and you have education, this seems like one of the worst ways to pay it off.

    As Pheezer said:
    Lack of hours
    No benefits
    Minimum wage
    Relatively minor discounts
    Absolutely nothing to advance your career.

    It was a fun job to have when you and your friends work there in high school or college... not beyond that.

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  • NatheoNatheo Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I'll help you out. Apparently you're not searching for a career and to be honest every part time minimum wage job has inconsistent shifts and crappy benefits, which is why I've stuck with them since high school through college, cause screw it. I've almost graduated. I've been up and down through store level management depending on the amount of free time i've had, and as a game advisor i'm still making well above minimum wage as a result. Obviously your mileage may vary depending on store/district, but I've been pretty fortunate with where I've ended up, and haven't had a particularly rough experience.

    It's essentially a throwaway question, just put forth whatever level of knowledge with the current gen systems without coming off as a cocky jackass. Just focus on the current gen stuff. Everyone that turns in an application has owned every system.

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  • BeltaineBeltaine BOO BOO DOO DE DOORegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    solsovly wrote: »
    Why would you ever want to work there unless you are a student? If your goal is to pay off debts and you have education, this seems like one of the worst ways to pay it off.

    As Pheezer said:
    Lack of hours
    No benefits
    Minimum wage
    Relatively minor discounts
    Absolutely nothing to advance your career.

    It was a fun job to have when you and your friends work there in high school or college... not beyond that.

    That's the thing, I don't want/need a whole lot of hours 20-25 would be plenty. I already have great benefits with my real job. Minimum wage is fine, it's brainless work to make extra money for a little while, and I'm not real worried about discounts.

    Yes, my question was in regards to the Gamestop application, but I'm hitting up other places as well. I'm starting with places close to where I live because I don't want to burn all my extra income on gas. Gamestop just happens to be one place that's close by, and I'd like to at least land something related to what I do already so I at least have a shot over the flood of new teenagers looking for summer jobs right now. I even applied to Geek Squad even though I think they're completely worthless and ripping people off.

    I have considered doing computer work as a moonlighting job, but getting everything in line as far as the business license, taxes, insurance, and all that other mess is really daunting and a significant investment to risk when my goal is to reduce debts, not create them at the risk of making nothing in return. Not to mention the possibility of people calling at all hours and/or coming to my house at all hours. (No way I can afford to rent an office space)

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Beltaine wrote: »
    I have considered doing computer work as a moonlighting job, but getting everything in line as far as the business license, taxes, insurance, and all that other mess is really daunting and a significant investment to risk when my goal is to reduce debts, not create them at the risk of making nothing in return. Not to mention the possibility of people calling at all hours and/or coming to my house at all hours. (No way I can afford to rent an office space)

    I don't know what it's like in your state, but a business license is not very expensive usually. Also, in my state, you don't even have to have a license unless you clear more than $3000 annually, otherwise it's just considered a "hobby" by definition.

    I ran a fairly successful side business doing computer work while I was employed by a big box office supply chain that, at the time, didn't have a "geek squad" type of service. I charged $20 minimum per call, which was a lot less than best buy was charging, used a pre paid wireless phone for the business so no one would be calling me at home, and had all clients sign release papers just like the larger chains do to protect myself in case one of them mistakenly messed up their machine and then tried to blame me after the fact.

    It was pretty simple to do really, and at that time I had no technology certifications, and still managed a pretty sizable (20+) client base.

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  • 3drage3drage Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I would think for an app like that, you could say... Owned all major consoles for the last 10 years. Would be enough information for what they are looking for.

    They are a store about games, so they want to make sure people they hire have some type of background.

    As for all the other nonsense in this thread, he's asking for specific information on an application.....not how to open his own computer business.

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  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Temp instead. Also, consider escape plan for your dead end job.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2010
    I was under the impression Gamestop gives their employees 4-8 hours a week. If you're looking for 20-25, you're better off just skipping them, and trying for something different. I'm currently working for Best Buy while I go to school for the EMT program, and they're actually being quite good working with my schedule, and giving me about 20-25 hours each week.

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  • Captain VashCaptain Vash Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Gamestop = part time job for lazy highschoolers.
    Gametstop =/= job for anyone with actual bills to pay.

    That said, when I filled out the application that got me hired I just made a list of everything I had experience with.

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  • ElinElin Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    When I worked at Gamestop non management employees got less than 10 hours a week, that may vary by location. I also just put down my complete gaming experience.

    If these guys have your area in the system they are legit work from home. I have a friend who worked for them and vouched for them. You can work 20 hours a week and they'll give you a set schedule. I was going to do it, but decided against it because Comcast is really bad here and I have random disconnects pretty much every day.

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  • BeltaineBeltaine BOO BOO DOO DE DOORegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Hey thanks for the lead, Elin.

    I think I may just print up some business cards and drop them around the local spots and see if I get any bites on computer work.

    I've done work for co-workers and friends of co-workers at $75 a call. Which I thought was too much at first until I saw that the Squad charges $150 just to do a virus cleanup. But, when I checked in with the local SBA about starting my own business with it, it seemed so overly complicated. They wanted a three-year plan and how much start-up capital I'd need, blah blah. I figured it was too much of a hassle.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Beltaine wrote: »
    Hey thanks for the lead, Elin.

    I think I may just print up some business cards and drop them around the local spots and see if I get any bites on computer work.

    I've done work for co-workers and friends of co-workers at $75 a call. Which I thought was too much at first until I saw that the Squad charges $150 just to do a virus cleanup. But, when I checked in with the local SBA about starting my own business with it, it seemed so overly complicated. They wanted a three-year plan and how much start-up capital I'd need, blah blah. I figured it was too much of a hassle.

    You can call an accountant, a city clerk, or usually just go online to see exactly what is needed to do this. It's not a hassle in the long run if you enjoy doing it and it comes easily to you. If it's just a side project, and you won't be taking out a business loan or operating within certain fields, you shouldn't need a letter of intent or three year plan, but that can vary state to state.

    A few things to look out for though. You need to be very careful when it comes to virus/spyware removal. I only did this for my customers in very rare cases, because some people are just REALLY protective of their data and like to blame others if it goes missing.

    You might want to start out just doing hardware maintenance and software support for those upgrading to Win7 and once you've built a good client list, consider upgrading to virus scrubbing and spyware removal.

    Also, don't be afraid to use your customers as good word of mouth. If you open a website for your services (which you should, it's cheap and professional) use a blogging platform like Wordpress and give them the opportunity to comment on the good work you've done. Maybe even give some simple self service tips on the site. People like free, even if they don't have a use for it.

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  • NotYouNotYou Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Never take a minimum wage job if you can avoid it. Labor jobs, part time event work, food service with tips, or sales commission jobs all yield a ton more money and are just as entry level. If you can get a bartending job at night, you'll be rolling in cash.

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  • SkyCaptainSkyCaptain IndianaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Try working as a restauraunt server for a time. It'll make you appreciate the hard work they put in each night to make sure your dining is a good experience and it's definitely worth the money if you're good and sociable. Being attractive really helps too, though I've met some ass ugly servers who still made great tips because they were great at it and very charismatic.

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