I bought an infuser for my parents and my grandparents for christmas we have been using it at pretty much every lunch and dinner since. The loose tea leaves really make the tea taste awesome.
The whole hair-splitting, racism bans are applied when it's convenient, bullshit is pretty much bullshit.
Plus, Jermaine's girlfriend is a dumb-cunt.
I'm still really confused why you're defending LF.
He might, just might, be acting on a principle and not some bullshit popularity contest.
Honestly, I don't regret seeing LF go even under bullshit circumstances.
That attitude is decidedly unjust, it's the same as just being like "HANG THAT N*************R!" every time a black man goes on trial, except that we're talking about a 1-day temp-ban from PA instead of execution. But the attitude, the "I don't care about fairness if I don't like the person" is horribly unjust and does not flatter you in the least. Being fair to people you don't like, just like giving free speech to extremely unpopular views, is the very cornerstone of the concepts of, respectively, fairness and free speech.
Just some recent examples. Now I'm not complaining about LD being racist, I'm questioning the wisdom of banning one person for being racist and ignoring it from someone else. The answer is not to ban both of them but to find a better reason to have banned Lobster which would have been pretty fucking easy. Doing it this way makes me feel a little dirty being associated with this forum.
If you guys still want to be anal retentive about LF's free speech, feel free to continue. It's less of a popularity contest in my opinion when every time he makes a post it is followed by three or more posts telling him to shut the fuck up.
Oh I agree that he deserved to be tempbanned or jailed but I'm saying that his accusation that it seems to be a popularity contest is supported by Knob stating he's being banned for racism when a popular forumer makes worse jokes about his own wife and we're all cool with it. The answer isn't to ban LD but to find and state a better reason for banning Lobster which wouldn't have been hard to do.
If I saw LD making the same sorts of comments I would also punt him in the butt
My roommate of a number of years was a balck man, and when playing videogames or goofing about we'd say some pretty foul things to each other. but that was just between us
there's a difference between that sort of thing between a couple of people who know each other pretty good and that sort of thing in a public situation
If you guys still want to be anal retentive about LF's free speech, feel free to continue. It's less of a popularity contest in my opinion when every time he makes a post it is followed by three or more posts telling him to shut the fuck up.
Are you fucking stupid? That's EXACTLY what makes it a popularity contest! Your evaluation of why it's OK to ban him is "because many people tell him to shut up." That's not an argument about his posts being against the rules, that's an argument about how popular he is. Or how popular his posts are.
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also come on
since when has popularity been a driving force behind a damn thing I've done
since when has popularity been a driving force behind a damn thing I've done
I don't think this is as much about your actions as the community's general attitude of selectively enforcing rules and complaining about rules violations as a pretext to ban people they don't like.
since when has popularity been a driving force behind a damn thing I've done
I don't think this is as much about your actions as the community's general attitude of selectively enforcing rules and complaining about rules violations as a pretext to ban people they don't like.
I can dig that
I'm just not cool with the idea that the only reason I did anything is because people asked
since when has popularity been a driving force behind a damn thing I've done
I don't think this is as much about your actions as the community's general attitude of selectively enforcing rules and complaining about rules violations as a pretext to ban people they don't like.
I can dig that
I'm just not cool with the idea that the only reason I did anything is because people asked
The adulation of the unwashed masses must provide with some small amount of comfort.
since when has popularity been a driving force behind a damn thing I've done
I don't think this is as much about your actions as the community's general attitude of selectively enforcing rules and complaining about rules violations as a pretext to ban people they don't like.
I can dig that
I'm just not cool with the idea that the only reason I did anything is because people asked
I dunno man. It's pretty obvious to anyone that looks at his posts that, while he's joking, LD's posts are extremely racist in nature. He's gotten away with it for a while, where as Lobster here gets busted the first time he insults the same racial group.
That's pretty much blatant favoritism if you ask me. Not that I'm saying LD should be banned/jailed. Just that it's a rather obvious case of favoritism.
since when has popularity been a driving force behind a damn thing I've done
I don't think this is as much about your actions as the community's general attitude of selectively enforcing rules and complaining about rules violations as a pretext to ban people they don't like.
I can dig that
I'm just not cool with the idea that the only reason I did anything is because people asked
I dunno man. It's pretty obvious to anyone that looks at his posts that, while he's joking, LD's posts are extremely racist in nature. He's gotten away with it for a while, where as Lobster here gets busted the first time he insults the same racial group.
That's pretty much blatant favoritism if you ask me. Not that I'm saying LD should be banned/jailed. Just that it's a rather obvious case of favoritism.
Like I said, I didn't remember it.
Maybe I would have said something then, who knows.
you guys, LD's wife is indian, so can't you immediately assume that anything he says about indians is inherently sarcastic or satirical? I mean, he clearly actually doesnt hate indian people.
you guys, LD's wife is indian, so can't you immediately assume that anything he says about indians is inherently sarcastic or satirical? I mean, he clearly actually doesnt hate indian people.
gosh, everyone needs to calm down
The way people are banned for the racism rule is generally when they're being "sarcastic or satirical."
It, supposedly, applies to all racism. Not just "real" racism.
you guys, LD's wife is indian, so can't you immediately assume that anything he says about indians is inherently sarcastic or satirical? I mean, he clearly actually doesnt hate indian people.
gosh, everyone needs to calm down
[12:05] Lord Dave: wombat is wrong though, I do hate indian people
[12:05] Bogey: I know
How do you like them apples?! :P
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you guys, LD's wife is indian, so can't you immediately assume that anything he says about indians is inherently sarcastic or satirical? I mean, he clearly actually doesnt hate indian people.
gosh, everyone needs to calm down
The way people are banned for the racism rule is generally when they're being "sarcastic or satirical."
It, supposedly, applies to all racism. Not just "real" racism.
Just sayin'.
The problem was that people were doing a lot of "lol n**** stole my bike/tv rofl" and it was getting to the point where just saying racist shit for no reason was the norm, so CT made a rule about it. Then people started ignoring the rule and the racism came back and at some point Khoo, in some alternate timeline or whatever, decided that the N word was totally verboten. And now the "no racism, not even 'hilarious' faux-racism" rule is back in force/back in black.
Disclaimer: Black the color, not the race, no whammies.
you guys, LD's wife is indian, so can't you immediately assume that anything he says about indians is inherently sarcastic or satirical? I mean, he clearly actually doesnt hate indian people.
gosh, everyone needs to calm down
[12:05] Lord Dave: wombat is wrong though, I do hate indian people
[12:05] Bogey: I know
How do you like them apples?! :P
Applesauce, bitch.
However, I think LD's hatred of Indians may stem from the fact that he has a bunch of them for in-laws. Just a theory.
you guys, LD's wife is indian, so can't you immediately assume that anything he says about indians is inherently sarcastic or satirical? I mean, he clearly actually doesnt hate indian people.
gosh, everyone needs to calm down
[12:05] Lord Dave: wombat is wrong though, I do hate indian people
[12:05] Bogey: I know
How do you like them apples?! :P
alright yeah i laughed ok
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you guys, LD's wife is indian, so can't you immediately assume that anything he says about indians is inherently sarcastic or satirical? I mean, he clearly actually doesnt hate indian people.
gosh, everyone needs to calm down
[12:05] Lord Dave: wombat is wrong though, I do hate indian people
[12:05] Bogey: I know
How do you like them apples?! :P
Applesauce, bitch.
However, I think LD's hatred of Indians may stem from the fact that he has a bunch of them for in-laws. Just a theory.
And hating your in-laws is protected by both the constitution AND the Bible.
Aren't a lot of the rules enforced based on the popularity of the user though? I mean, we all realize that there are people here who can get away with stuff someone else couldn't. And uh, Lobster was being a douche, the racism thing was just the excuse we needed to get rid of him for a while.
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Aren't a lot of the rules enforced based on the popularity of the user though? I mean, we all realize that there are people here who can get away with stuff someone else couldn't. And uh, Lobster was being a douche, the racism thing was just the excuse we needed to get rid of him for a while.
Sometimes bannings do escape popularity, but I think I'll agree with you since I know that I myself have gotten away with quite a bit (to be fair, I've also been banned quite a bit :P)
Aren't a lot of the rules enforced based on the popularity of the user though? I mean, we all realize that there are people here who can get away with stuff someone else couldn't. And uh, Lobster was being a douche, the racism thing was just the excuse we needed to get rid of him for a while.
That reminds me. I still haven't received this months payment to keep you unbanned.
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"Popularity contest" just isn't making sense to me.
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I bought an infuser for my parents and my grandparents for christmas we have been using it at pretty much every lunch and dinner since. The loose tea leaves really make the tea taste awesome.
That attitude is decidedly unjust, it's the same as just being like "HANG THAT N*************R!" every time a black man goes on trial, except that we're talking about a 1-day temp-ban from PA instead of execution. But the attitude, the "I don't care about fairness if I don't like the person" is horribly unjust and does not flatter you in the least. Being fair to people you don't like, just like giving free speech to extremely unpopular views, is the very cornerstone of the concepts of, respectively, fairness and free speech.
Hyperbolic example? Yeah. Valid point/valid principle? Yeah.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=25428103&highlight=#25428103
http://www.penny-arcade.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=25427848&highlight=#25427848
http://www.penny-arcade.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=25427341&highlight=#25427341
Just some recent examples. Now I'm not complaining about LD being racist, I'm questioning the wisdom of banning one person for being racist and ignoring it from someone else. The answer is not to ban both of them but to find a better reason to have banned Lobster which would have been pretty fucking easy. Doing it this way makes me feel a little dirty being associated with this forum.
If you guys still want to be anal retentive about LF's free speech, feel free to continue. It's less of a popularity contest in my opinion when every time he makes a post it is followed by three or more posts telling him to shut the fuck up.
If I saw LD making the same sorts of comments I would also punt him in the butt
My roommate of a number of years was a balck man, and when playing videogames or goofing about we'd say some pretty foul things to each other. but that was just between us
there's a difference between that sort of thing between a couple of people who know each other pretty good and that sort of thing in a public situation
Are you fucking stupid? That's EXACTLY what makes it a popularity contest! Your evaluation of why it's OK to ban him is "because many people tell him to shut up." That's not an argument about his posts being against the rules, that's an argument about how popular he is. Or how popular his posts are.
since when has popularity been a driving force behind a damn thing I've done
I don't think this is as much about your actions as the community's general attitude of selectively enforcing rules and complaining about rules violations as a pretext to ban people they don't like.
When you made love to me.
I can dig that
I'm just not cool with the idea that the only reason I did anything is because people asked
The adulation of the unwashed masses must provide with some small amount of comfort.
I dunno man. It's pretty obvious to anyone that looks at his posts that, while he's joking, LD's posts are extremely racist in nature. He's gotten away with it for a while, where as Lobster here gets busted the first time he insults the same racial group.
That's pretty much blatant favoritism if you ask me. Not that I'm saying LD should be banned/jailed. Just that it's a rather obvious case of favoritism.
fuck it
cleaning up this shit isn't worth the stress anymore
y'all do what you like
Maybe I would have said something then, who knows.
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Knob, we can work through this. Our love is strong enough.
you guys, LD's wife is indian, so can't you immediately assume that anything he says about indians is inherently sarcastic or satirical? I mean, he clearly actually doesnt hate indian people.
gosh, everyone needs to calm down
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The way people are banned for the racism rule is generally when they're being "sarcastic or satirical."
It, supposedly, applies to all racism. Not just "real" racism.
Just sayin'.
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How do you like them apples?! :P
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The problem was that people were doing a lot of "lol n**** stole my bike/tv rofl" and it was getting to the point where just saying racist shit for no reason was the norm, so CT made a rule about it. Then people started ignoring the rule and the racism came back and at some point Khoo, in some alternate timeline or whatever, decided that the N word was totally verboten. And now the "no racism, not even 'hilarious' faux-racism" rule is back in force/back in black.
Disclaimer: Black the color, not the race, no whammies.
Applesauce, bitch.
However, I think LD's hatred of Indians may stem from the fact that he has a bunch of them for in-laws. Just a theory.
just not me personally, i guess
And hating your in-laws is protected by both the constitution AND the Bible.
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I'm mixed Scottish, Irish, and German from the last two centuries. Before that, almost every single part of my family came from the Carpathians, which is heavily populated by gypsies. And since the gypsy language is based off of Sanskrit, we, in fact, descend from India.
So my family is a pack of roving thieves that provide shitty customer support at Dell. Or something.