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In this modern age of gaming, home consoles and the internet have converted gamers into hordes of unwashed masses hiding behind LCD screens and Gamertags.
Looking for a more social interaction with the people who kick my ass in games i have been looking into arcades and "gaming lounge" type facilities to see if there is any real reason to go one and pay to play the games i may or may not have at home.
What could get you to go to an arcade, or why did you go to an arcade before in your life?
Novelty, pure and simple. Things like Taiko no Tatsujin (which I played 3 years ago at a Pontins holiday camp of all places), or that game I forget the name of where you drive the big rig. Stuff you couldn't replicate easily at home.
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DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
edited June 2010
Really, I liked arcades for the social aspect of it more than anything.
Being in a room full of people who were just as into a competitive game as you were was always really fun.
We had an arcade/movie rental place/pizza parlor when I was a kid called Movie Mall
Everyone I know within my age range, currently a gamer or not, looks back and fondly remembers that place. Some coworkers and I have been talking of making a day and going to a Dave and Busters.
Basically to play stuff that can't be reproduced at home. I only stopped going to the one local arcade we have here when pretty much every worthwhile game fell into disrepair. I'm surprised it's still in business.
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DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
edited June 2010
Yeah. I did hate when people didn't bother to upkeep their machines.
Especially fighting games. People would have to coin toss for who was going to play on the shitty side.
If they put in a gallery of shoot em ups and beat em ups I'd be interested. Nothing tops arcade 4 player.
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Yeah. I did hate when people didn't bother to upkeep their machines.
Especially fighting games. People would have to coin toss for who was going to play on the shitty side.
Went in there once when a DDR tournament was going to be held in 2 days. One of the arrow panels on the machine wasn't responding at all and another was touchy.
"Some of the panels on the DDR cab are busted."
"Can't you still play that game without one arrow?"
"Uh..."
Like people have said - simply to get an experience that is impossible, or very expensive, to get at home. Crisis Zone, where you have a wildly bucking submachine gun? Hell - L.A. Machineguns, where you're pivoting a massive gun emplacement around and probably damaging your tendons forever with the vibrations. Stuff like Star Wars Podracer, which replicate not just a cockpit but the driving style from the movie. Or even just playing some of the classics from the 90s as intended - on a slightly blurry angled CRT with a chunky joystick and well-worn buttons.
Having said that, by far the most fun I've had in arcades has been whilst travelling - nothing beats relaxing from a hard day beating the streets better than plonking down £5 and getting enough credits to last you a few hours on the cutting-edge stuff from Japan.
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HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
edited June 2010
You get the people experience, that's what. It's fun sometimes to see people randomly pairing up at a fighting game, and then all of a sudden two guys face each other that are both fucking incredible and everyone is like OH SHIIIIIII
Good arcades were hard to find. The one at the mall, back where I lived in California, did a pretty good job upkeeping the machines. Also, the one at the local mini-golf course.
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MaddocI'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother?Registered Userregular
edited June 2010
If you've ever played Virtual ON in an arcade, you already know that some experiences cannot be replicated at home.
Well, not unless you're willing to shell out absurd wads of cash for Steel Battalion-esque monstrosities.
Thanks for all the feedback so far guys. I am really curious to see what all these arcades are doing wrong, and what few are doing right. I remember being able scrounge the change in my car and just throw a few bucks into time crisis and have a blast.
2-4 player co-op face to face was always the best, fond memories of 4 player gauntlet legends causing friendships to be lost temporarily.
So i guess the consensus so far is, too expensive for broken or out of date games?
If I were to patronise an arcade these days it would need the following:
Pay for entry for a set time and the machines set to free play within.
No kids under 18.
Food and drink available.
Enough of a crowd for a good social scene but not so over full you never get to go on anything.
A pleasant non smokey, non pitch black, non ear splittingly noisy atmosphere.
And then if someone did build my fairytale entirely un-economically viable arcade I still probably wouldn't ever visit the thing as I'm old and lazy and my wife wouldn't let me go anyway.
Thanks for all the feedback so far guys. I am really curious to see what all these arcades are doing wrong, and what few are doing right. I remember being able scrounge the change in my car and just throw a few bucks into time crisis and have a blast.
2-4 player co-op face to face was always the best, fond memories of 4 player gauntlet legends causing friendships to be lost temporarily.
So i guess the consensus so far is, too expensive for broken or out of date games?
8 Player Daytona is the Citizen Kane of video games. What arcades are 'doing wrong' is that the only people who actually want to go to arcades any more are the people who splurg over MINT CONDITION VIRTUAL ON/ONLY SLIGHTLY BUBLEGUM DAMAGED METAL SLUG 3 (me) and fighting game fans.
Dr Mario KartGames DealerAustin, TXRegistered Userregular
edited June 2010
Online multiplayer isnt suitable for competitive grade gaming. If you're serious about a game, you have to play in person, either in tournaments or arcades.
Yeah, it's all about the specialized cabinets. I love the various shooting and driving games that are only really possible in an arcade. I played the Police 911 game until I could barely walk when it first came out.
My kids and I hit Dave and Busters on a semi-regular basis for that. They like the ticket-generating ones, too.
Because Japanese arcades are awesome and have awesome games?
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HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
edited June 2010
And by the way, online gaming, while, convenient, removes one of my favorite multiplayer aspects; being there with people. And I'm not sure if the industry is leaning away from that (for the sake of convenience) or not. I would hate it if playing together in the same room disappeared, so very much.
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Yeah. I did hate when people didn't bother to upkeep their machines.
Especially fighting games. People would have to coin toss for who was going to play on the shitty side.
I kinda feel bad when I'm winning in SF3:Third Strike one day and then the next day I go back to that arcade place and dump a coin into the other side and find out that the guy that I beat in a close, down the wire match didn't have Medium Kick, and/or down-left at his disposal. Makes my victory taste less sweet.
Some of the fondest memories I have of my childhood revolve around gaming related stuff, especially arcades back when I was younger. I can remember frequenting two of them in Nanuet, NY: a place called "Aladdin's Castle" at the Nanuet Mall (which later closed) and "Mr. Arcade" in a small shopping center just nearby (which also closed and was remodeled as a futon store - blasphemy!). I kept some spare tokens from both as souveneirs for the longest time.
My grandmother, who died of cancer about eight years ago, used to take me and my brother to the latter all the time, supplying us with tokens as we ping-ponged around looking for new games to play and making beelines to our favorites. She was one of the nicest, sweetest people you could have ever met, one of the most beloved people in my life, and while losing the arcades was a minor bummer to me, losing her was far, far worse; it was like my childhood had officially died with her. Screwy as it sounds those days with her were the ones that stand out the most.
Anyway, I loved arcades for many reasons: the atmosphere and being sensorily bombarded by noise and visual stimulation was pleasantly surreal; the anticipation of finding new, potential blockbuster games (like Super Mario Bros. and Street Fighter/SF II, among others) and getting to play them first; the ability to just lose yourself in it all for as long as you want, like being in a bubble of comfort and leisure. It's been a while since I've actually been to an honest-to-goodness arcade, since they're something of a dying breed, but the memories will stick with me.
I developed a love affair with the Metal Slug and Street Fighter games through the local arcade. Played Marvel Vs. Capcom tons as well as every SNK game they'd put in the cabinet. Arcades were a blast when I was a kid.
I'm sure most of you can remember going in to play SF2 and there was always the one kid who kicked everyones ass that you had to try to knock off to get your turn. Dudes setting quartes on the the lip waiting their turn. Good times.
Personally, at this point there is little reason I'd want to go to an arcade. Most of the popular arcade stuff like fighters and DDR are games I have no interest in. There's a ton of lightgun games on the Wii now, most of which can be played multiplayer. The only real draw are the crazy driving game setups, but those aren't games I'm in the mood to play very often. The social aspect, while unique, isn't a big enough draw on its own to get me to an arcade. When I get there there has to be something I want to play. I loved going to Chuck E. Cheese because of the awesome lineup of games they had there. X-Men, Simpsons, and Turtles in Time saw a lot of play time. If there were an arcade around here that had those three then I'd consider it. There hasn't been a dedicated arcade where I live in years, and Chuck closed then reopened over a decade later. I haven't been in it since it reopened, but by that point I'd long been out of the target demographic for the place and the prices became ridiculous. If another arcade opened around here I'd probably at least check it out, but I'd be surprised if I ever went back. I would totally check out those arcades in Japan, though. Those places look like such a crazy, fun, and different experience from what I picture the American arcades being.
EDIT: About 20 years ago, the waiting area for the pediatric nephrology unit at Syracuse Hospital in NY was setup as a rather impressive play area for kids. Among the attractions was a Pole Position arcade machine. If I remember right it was setup to be played for free.
1) Social aspect. At home, if I win 5 back to back games of a fighting game, who cares? In an arcade, you (used to) get the line for fighting games, watching the guy you were going to fight and trying to plan ahead. The conversations, tricks, and mindgames were great. Also, since it was in person, the smack talk was significantly limited, particularly because the arcade in my town was 1/2 nerds and 1/2 thugs.
My fiance and I stayed at a hotel that had it's own arcade not two months ago. She's not even a gamer but she spent probably 10 bucks just playing pinball and skeeball. I got more joy from her having fun there than I did with the few traditional arcade cabinets they had. They did have the Mario Kart racer there, which was a nice surprise.
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MrVyngaardLive From New EtoileStraight Outta SosariaRegistered Userregular
edited June 2010
Going to an arcade reminds me how much Mom loved pinball.
I'd be there as a kid, playing stuff like Golden Axe or Rolling Thunder. She'd be playing one of the pinball machines.
Those were good days.
*pats his X-Arcade*
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I miss Japan. When I was stationed there I used to go to my local arcade every weekend. (the Green Hill Arcade) Arcades thrive in Japan, even with the advent of consoles. I think it might be the social aspect.
Pinball, driving games, and that bad ass Terminator Salvation Light gun game they have.
I actually have an aracde close to me....sort of
It's really a store that sales things for game rooms and offers ping pong lessons. Everything is playable and for sale. They even got a second store by them so they could hold more stuff. It's pretty awesome. They have a lot of pinball and some classics. I was sad that the old Six Million Dollar Man pinball table they had was out of service the last time I went there.
I miss Japan. When I was stationed there I used to go to my local arcade every weekend. (the Green Hill Arcade) Arcades thrive in Japan, even with the advent of consoles. I think it might be the social aspect.
It also has something to do with population density I bet.
I am all about fighting games and pinball at the arcade. I do enjoy the occasional Metal Slug too.
I went to arcades in the past because there was no such thing as internet and just playing a 2-player game on Nintendo with my brother was not nearly as much fun as beating strangers and taking their quarters at the mall. Also, when I was thirteen and would walk into Galaxy arcade and hear Killer Instinct scream "ULTRA COMBO!" at full blast...that was awesome.
I am lucky enough to have a video game center in my city now (www.ebash.com) and I go there and pay to play because it's a great way to try new games for me without having to breakdown and buy a console with a Gamefly account and all of that. New PS3 game? I can give it a try. New 360 game? I'll give it a whirl. New PC game or Wii game? Have at it. I can try new stuff without having to own it all. It's a lot cheaper. Plus, it's a cool way to meet new people and occasionally have decent LAN games where latency is not an issue.
It's not always just about playing other people but it's about knowing those other people too, you know? If I win or lose to an internet stranger doesn't matter because we're never going to see each other or know who each other is. In person though? It's different.
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Being in a room full of people who were just as into a competitive game as you were was always really fun.
As are the 4-player lightgun games with big plastic rifles. I almost broke a passer-by's nose once while I was reloading.
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And this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVXNnWVIIGE&feature=related
Meet new people or maybe just to show off, the social aspect is undeniable.
Time Crisis that is.
We had an arcade/movie rental place/pizza parlor when I was a kid called Movie Mall
Everyone I know within my age range, currently a gamer or not, looks back and fondly remembers that place. Some coworkers and I have been talking of making a day and going to a Dave and Busters.
Especially fighting games. People would have to coin toss for who was going to play on the shitty side.
They have a Tekken 2 machine in there. No other arcade games.
I always think to myself, "That's so fucking random to have a game that old in your new pizza parlor."
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
"Some of the panels on the DDR cab are busted."
"Can't you still play that game without one arrow?"
"Uh..."
Having said that, by far the most fun I've had in arcades has been whilst travelling - nothing beats relaxing from a hard day beating the streets better than plonking down £5 and getting enough credits to last you a few hours on the cutting-edge stuff from Japan.
Good arcades were hard to find. The one at the mall, back where I lived in California, did a pretty good job upkeeping the machines. Also, the one at the local mini-golf course.
Well, not unless you're willing to shell out absurd wads of cash for Steel Battalion-esque monstrosities.
Sadly, most of the really rad arcade games are pretty much limited to Japan nowadays, where arcades still make some money.
Like so,
http://gizmodo.com/312751/panoramic-mecha-simulator-arcade-game-is-networked-awesome
2-4 player co-op face to face was always the best, fond memories of 4 player gauntlet legends causing friendships to be lost temporarily.
So i guess the consensus so far is, too expensive for broken or out of date games?
Pay for entry for a set time and the machines set to free play within.
No kids under 18.
Food and drink available.
Enough of a crowd for a good social scene but not so over full you never get to go on anything.
A pleasant non smokey, non pitch black, non ear splittingly noisy atmosphere.
And then if someone did build my fairytale entirely un-economically viable arcade I still probably wouldn't ever visit the thing as I'm old and lazy and my wife wouldn't let me go anyway.
I didn't really help did I?
8 Player Daytona is the Citizen Kane of video games. What arcades are 'doing wrong' is that the only people who actually want to go to arcades any more are the people who splurg over MINT CONDITION VIRTUAL ON/ONLY SLIGHTLY BUBLEGUM DAMAGED METAL SLUG 3 (me) and fighting game fans.
The demand simply isn't there.
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My kids and I hit Dave and Busters on a semi-regular basis for that. They like the ticket-generating ones, too.
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I may never drive a performance car down a twisty japanese mountain in real life, so the arcade will have to do.
I kinda feel bad when I'm winning in SF3:Third Strike one day and then the next day I go back to that arcade place and dump a coin into the other side and find out that the guy that I beat in a close, down the wire match didn't have Medium Kick, and/or down-left at his disposal. Makes my victory taste less sweet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSJG5e0s43c
I've seen one of these years ago, but never had the chance to try it out.
Oh, and this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQuVMLQBhm8
and this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxeuQjpyrnY
and this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5_Gmp0Zcew
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My grandmother, who died of cancer about eight years ago, used to take me and my brother to the latter all the time, supplying us with tokens as we ping-ponged around looking for new games to play and making beelines to our favorites. She was one of the nicest, sweetest people you could have ever met, one of the most beloved people in my life, and while losing the arcades was a minor bummer to me, losing her was far, far worse; it was like my childhood had officially died with her. Screwy as it sounds those days with her were the ones that stand out the most.
Anyway, I loved arcades for many reasons: the atmosphere and being sensorily bombarded by noise and visual stimulation was pleasantly surreal; the anticipation of finding new, potential blockbuster games (like Super Mario Bros. and Street Fighter/SF II, among others) and getting to play them first; the ability to just lose yourself in it all for as long as you want, like being in a bubble of comfort and leisure. It's been a while since I've actually been to an honest-to-goodness arcade, since they're something of a dying breed, but the memories will stick with me.
I'm sure most of you can remember going in to play SF2 and there was always the one kid who kicked everyones ass that you had to try to knock off to get your turn. Dudes setting quartes on the the lip waiting their turn. Good times.
EDIT: About 20 years ago, the waiting area for the pediatric nephrology unit at Syracuse Hospital in NY was setup as a rather impressive play area for kids. Among the attractions was a Pole Position arcade machine. If I remember right it was setup to be played for free.
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I'd be there as a kid, playing stuff like Golden Axe or Rolling Thunder. She'd be playing one of the pinball machines.
Those were good days.
*pats his X-Arcade*
I actually have an aracde close to me....sort of
It's really a store that sales things for game rooms and offers ping pong lessons. Everything is playable and for sale. They even got a second store by them so they could hold more stuff. It's pretty awesome. They have a lot of pinball and some classics. I was sad that the old Six Million Dollar Man pinball table they had was out of service the last time I went there.
It also has something to do with population density I bet.
I am all about fighting games and pinball at the arcade. I do enjoy the occasional Metal Slug too.
I am lucky enough to have a video game center in my city now (www.ebash.com) and I go there and pay to play because it's a great way to try new games for me without having to breakdown and buy a console with a Gamefly account and all of that. New PS3 game? I can give it a try. New 360 game? I'll give it a whirl. New PC game or Wii game? Have at it. I can try new stuff without having to own it all. It's a lot cheaper. Plus, it's a cool way to meet new people and occasionally have decent LAN games where latency is not an issue.
It's not always just about playing other people but it's about knowing those other people too, you know? If I win or lose to an internet stranger doesn't matter because we're never going to see each other or know who each other is. In person though? It's different.