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There's no replacement for displacement

The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple,unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
edited December 2010 in Social Entropy++
Muscle cars are a strange thing

They hail from a time when america was producing some gorgeous steel on wheels, but the biggest characteristic was the enormous mountains of power some of these engines pushed out, by modern standards as well. It took 3 decades for their output to be matched again by their creators. But their style can't be matched.

The muscle car was a phenomenon. The world's laziest cruiser, at the dip of the pedal could turn into a police officers nightmare.

We talk about big, fast steel here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsL47VB5ov8&

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4BrHzlOOQg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoYjdg7DGPA

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  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    gonna drive a fast car one day

    not gonna drive my shitty care anymore

    gonna drive really hard

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  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    My 1985 Cutlass Supreme got stolen last year. :(

    Had to replace it with a POS 95 saturn which I'm going to have to replace next year because the transmission is dieing in a bad way.

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  • Dr.FunkensteinDr.Funkenstein Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    my mom just got a mustang last friday

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    why are you not talking about Top Gear

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  • Dr.FunkensteinDr.Funkenstein Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    also plymouth???

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Dr.Funkenstein wrote: »
    also plymouth???

    If I'm not mistaken, that was a body and engine upgrade for the Camaro to rebrand it as a Trans-Am, but that concept was like two years ago, I think.

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Nope, that was this, and it was last year:

    lingenfelter-pontiac-trans-am-camaro-concept_100232104_m.jpg

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  • Dr.FunkensteinDr.Funkenstein Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    even if it was why would they use the plymouth name

    also it looks similar to the body for the challenger

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Oh, you know, I didn't even notice those Road Runner lines on the c-pillar.

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    see, this is why electric cars will never be as cool as old gas-guzzlers.

    because they don't make the right noise.

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Here's the article about it:

    http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/07/2010-plymouth-road-runner-concept-by.html
    More of a result of pipe-dreaming than actual inside info, the 2010 Plymouth Road Runner Concept that’s featured in the August/September issue of Mopar Enthusiast magazine is based on the new Dodge Challenger using styling cues from the ’71-’72 model year Road Runners. The folks at Mopar Enthusiast beleive that if the car were to be produced today, it should be powered by a HEMI 5.7L V8 as standard with 6.1L and 7.0L V8 HEMIs being offered as optional equipment.

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  • Dr.FunkensteinDr.Funkenstein Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    ok so i was right cool

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    i'm looking to put this thing in

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    this old girl. I love her so much, but the old straight six just doesn't really get the job done.

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I'm going to buy a 1967-68 Mustang fastback, strip everything out, pop in a hydrogen fuel cell linked to four electric motors and regenerative brakes and a plus interior.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    NotASenator wrote: »
    Dr.Funkenstein wrote: »
    also plymouth???

    If I'm not mistaken, that was a body and engine upgrade for the Camaro to rebrand it as a Trans-Am, but that concept was like two years ago, I think.

    Plymouth is Chrysler, dawg.
    Dr.Funkenstein wrote: »
    even if it was why would they use the plymouth name

    also it looks similar to the body for the challenger

    Plymouth made the fastest production car of all time.

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    It was more or less banned from NASCAR because the only way to make it safe was to hamstring the shit out of it.

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  • Dr.FunkensteinDr.Funkenstein Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I'm gonna post pix of the mustang later

    I love it so much

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  • TejsTejs Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    The car in the OP's spoiler is ugly as sin, just like the current Challenger is.

    Viper for life!

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  • Dr.FunkensteinDr.Funkenstein Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    lol

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Tejs wrote: »
    The car in the OP's spoiler is ugly as sin, just like the current Challenger is.

    Viper for life!

    you got bad eyes, boy.

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    also, goddamn i wish the straight six in my old '48 wasn't such a gutless fucker. thing can manage freeway speeds, but barely, and it's a long, slow climb.

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Tejs wrote: »
    The car in the OP's spoiler is ugly as sin, just like the current Challenger is.

    Viper for life!

    Nah

    Arguably the Viper isn't a muscle car, either.

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    i'd categorize the viper as more of a sports car.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I need to point out is that the reason that those cars stood up for multiple decades is that there were literally no restrictions whatso ever in the 60's.

    You car could have a modern day BP oil well on the back of it just spewing shit out onto the streets and it would be cool.

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Metzger Meister wrote: »
    i'd categorize the viper as more of a sports car.

    Yep.

    Here's an interesting tidbit, by the way: the cancelled next-gen Viper eventually became the...












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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    The fucking Viper.

    And yeah butters, I know. I was just backwards for a minute there.

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  • GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    A buddy of mine just got a 2010 Mustang GT that impressed the shit out of me. He opted for the GT instead of the 2011 5.0. When I found out they were re-releasing a Mustang 5.0 and didn't change the body at all I was sort of disappointed.

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Why would they change the body? The car is a YEAR OLD.

    Everybody knew the 5.0 was coming before the 2010's came out. I can't imagine anyone thinking they got gypped on buying a 2010 GT.

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    the body's a little different, unless we're comparing the body to the GT and not the last mustang body style.


    fuck i want a new 5.0

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  • Dr.FunkensteinDr.Funkenstein Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    wait why wouldn't he go for the 5.0?

    or even the v6 for that matter

    Metzger the '10 and '11 models look the same

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  • GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    He had his reasons to go for the GT. I'm not him. I don't have his bills to pay.

    I also didn't say anybody felt gypped... I was just sad they didn't make it a fastback or something. I mean when you think of Mustang 5.0 that is exactly what you think about.

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Dr.Funkenstein wrote: »
    wait why wouldn't he go for the 5.0?

    or even the v6 for that matter

    Metzger the '10 and '11 models look the same

    the front and back end are a little different and there's some minor styleistic changes.

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  • GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Dr.Funkenstein wrote: »
    wait why wouldn't he go for the 5.0?

    or even the v6 for that matter

    Metzger the '10 and '11 models look the same

    Why would he go for the V6 when the 2010 GT has a 4.6 lt V8?

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  • Dr.FunkensteinDr.Funkenstein Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    i think you're confusing 2010 with 2009

    t GRMike it has about the same horsepower has better fuel economy and its cheaper

    I mean I really wanted to get a 2010 GT

    But in the end the v6 was just a better choice mostly because of these facts

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    prroobably, now that i think about it...

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  • GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Dr.Funkenstein wrote: »
    i think you're confusing 2010 with 2009

    t GRMike it has about the same horsepower has better fuel economy and its cheaper

    Then it wouldn't be a GT, right?

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  • Dr.FunkensteinDr.Funkenstein Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    GRMike wrote: »
    Dr.Funkenstein wrote: »
    i think you're confusing 2010 with 2009

    t GRMike it has about the same horsepower has better fuel economy and its cheaper

    Then it wouldn't be a GT, right?

    I-I never said it was

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    There is no substitute for a Ford V8 sound.

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Dr.Funkenstein wrote: »
    i think you're confusing 2010 with 2009

    t GRMike it has about the same horsepower has better fuel economy and its cheaper

    I mean I really wanted to get a 2010 GT

    But in the end the v6 was just a better choice mostly because of these facts

    The 2010 4.0L V6 produces 210HP and the 4.6-liter V8 makes 315 hp

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Also, the V6 doesn't really win by that much on fuel economy.

    Really, the main difference there is price.

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    NotASenator wrote: »
    Dr.Funkenstein wrote: »
    i think you're confusing 2010 with 2009

    t GRMike it has about the same horsepower has better fuel economy and its cheaper

    I mean I really wanted to get a 2010 GT

    But in the end the v6 was just a better choice mostly because of these facts

    The 2010 4.0L V6 produces 210HP and the 4.6-liter V8 makes 315 hp

    He's talking abou the '11 V6, which has 305 hp.

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