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Reccomend me a Gun (Home Defense/Target)
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I'm looking for a good, reliable shotgun in the state of California. I can't buy a handgun because I'm under 21, but I'd like a shotgun for skeet shooting as well as home protection.
Before I hear "you'll kill yourself, or its dangerous" I fully intend on taking gun safety courses, training, and even local police training and registration.
I shot a shotgun and .22 in the Boy Scouts and was very good even at 11 years old (5 shots in the size of a quarter at 20 yards no scope .22)
Anyway, a shotgun interests me. I can spend up to $1,500. Something with an auto-loading or semi-automatic function would be ideal for quick skeet shooting.
Any other tips or advice would be great!
Before I hear "you'll kill yourself, or its dangerous" I fully intend on taking gun safety courses, training, and even local police training and registration.
I shot a shotgun and .22 in the Boy Scouts and was very good even at 11 years old (5 shots in the size of a quarter at 20 yards no scope .22)
Anyway, a shotgun interests me. I can spend up to $1,500. Something with an auto-loading or semi-automatic function would be ideal for quick skeet shooting.
Any other tips or advice would be great!
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Many ranges do not want you firing more than one round at skeet, by the way.
Dunno about California, but in Va I'm pretty sure you can get a Rifle at 18. Its my understanding that AR-15s run in the $1,000 range. I could be wrong though.
"Okay class. This is called the barrel. It's where the hurt flies out. This is the breach, where spent shells are discarded and loaded in a single mechanical action, and this is the trigger, which..."triggers"...(false laughter)...the firing mechanism."
Rule #1. Never point the gun at anyone, ever. Even when it's unloaded.
Rule #2. Clean the gun often.
Rule #3. Don't be a retard and pretend to be all badass with the gun. And don't point it in your friend's face while applying force to the trigger. This is obviously the leading cause of gun related deaths because the commercials say so.
Owning a gun is a matter of personal responsibility. Maintain it, keep it away from people who don't need to play with it, and so forth. It is a very simple thing mechanically, so classes are largely useless, except when required for some type of certification.
Coming from a family who owns a veritable arsenal, I can say that a good 12 gauge will run you around $450 at a gun show. Get a double barrel or a single shot, because pump action shotguns are a bitch to clean, and in the case of skeet shooting, you're only shooting one shot at a time anyway.
I'm just going to point out that an AR-15 isn't especially appropriate for hunting or home defense. Anyway, shotguns are much better than rifles for home defense because one doesn't have to worry about a slug penetrating a wall and killing someone on the other side, which is an important concern when attempting to defend one's home/family/property in the dark. And the wide shot dispersal makes aiming a hell of a lot easier.
That actually makes a lot of sense. And here I thought my Neighbor was a lunatic when he said he had a shotgun for home defence.
Also, despite what common sense may make you think, a .223 will penetrate less of residential walls than a 9mm/40/45
The ruger III is a high-quality .22. .22 is what I recommend to people who don't own a gun yet, simply because if you honestly intend to fire a gun enough to become proficient with one, making your first gun a .22 will basically buy you another gun in 1-2 years by saving you money on ammo.
Also, subabeast, when giving advice about something that kills people, you may want to have some idea what the hell you're talking about.
A shotgun slug will lay waste to walls. A shot load, not so much, but I still wouldn't stand behind two pieces of drywall and dare you to shoot.
If you want to drop some money on something beyond the 870, a remington 1100 sport 12 is a semi-auto hunting gun with a pleasing lack of felt recoil.
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Fun to shoot though.
A shotgun is your best bet.
Get a Remington 12ga. pump. An 870 is fine. Don't keep it loaded, buy a trigger lock (required to take a firearm out of a shop in CA, also bring the receipt or they'll gouge you for another 10 bucks.), always know where the ammo is (in a safe position), and keep the gun in a case.
He's saying that the slug fired by a pistol is more likely to penetrate a wall than buckshot. IE, that with the shotgun, it's not something you need to worry about.
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That is because a handgun is classified as Concealable, a Shotgun is not.
If there are ever going to be any children in the household at all, besides simply keeping the weapon and ammo in a locked safe or room, also devise some easy way of telling if the safe/case/room has been opened, such as tampertape (that thin red plastic tape with serrated edges, sticks really good but tears easily). That way you can check to make sure the room/safe is secure visually without actually opening the safe and checking the firearm.
And if somebody breaks in a steals your weapon(s) and ammunition, report it to the police immediately, and have copies of your serial number(s) and how much ammunition you had with it.
If you have a Safe Deposit Box, consider putting a copy of your records (including serial numbers) regarding the firearms and gunsafe (also valuable electronics) in the box.
The shotgun penetration test seems particularly appropriate here.
Really, the whole site is a good read, if you are interested in the performance of various ammunition types.
I personally have a Mugica 2.75" double barrel. Nice to shoot but the stock is to short. I would try to find one where you can get a good grip on the stock without having your fingers touch the barrel. It gets a might bit hot after a couple shots.
Oh and be prepared for the "High-Brow" skeet shooters to make veiled insults at the double barrel instead of single barrel. Fucking knobs.
Thanks for that, it was a really entertaining read. I liked the Buick of Truth particularly.
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They are about $30 cheaper than an 870. When deciding between the two, I ended up getting the 870 because the Mossberg 500 I was looking at had a fixed choke. Since I am planning on using it primarily for hunting, that was a pretty big drawback.
To be quite honest, the 500's mechanical parts seemed a bit cheap compared to the 870, as well. This probably only matters a lot if you will be using it for hunting and serious target practice. If not, it is good advice to consider the Mossberg 500.
Go to a gun shop and get a feel for both of them.