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So recently my dad and I where talking and we realized that we basically pay $100 a month for internet. We are required to have a local phone line from this local ISP for $45 a month, DSL costs me $40 a month, and we have to get a long distance provider for $15 a month. Thats a lot for how slow it is (about 3MBs down and less then 1 up). So we've been looking into Comcast and Atnt. Both have options that do not require you pay for a phone line and are around the same price.
Comcast boasts up to 15MBs up while Atnt provides a more modest (and likely honest) 6MBs. My main question is about bandwidth limits. I know Comcast has up to 250GB/month, but is that a problem? My dad mostly just uses his e-mail but my sister lives on Netflix and I play a lot of games online. If it where just me I know 250 would be plenty, but for the three of us? I have no clue. Any advice would be greatly appricated.
mightyjongyoSour CrrmEast Bay, CaliforniaRegistered Userregular
edited August 2010
I have at&t and I didn't know they had bandwidth limits. My brother plays guild wars while I stream stuff online with no problem. But I think either way, you're probably paying way more than you need to (although, there will be installation fees).
250 GB is pretty substantial. My ISP has a 200GB cap (well not really a cap... you can go over it, you just pay them for the extra bandwidth), and I don't think I've ever used much more than 100GB. Those months where I hit three digits, it's usually because I got into a beta and I've had to download (and patch, and repatch, and redownload, and rerepatch) some huge beta client for an MMO. We don't have Netflix streaming in Canada though, at least not yet, so I can't speak directly to how much bandwidth that might incur. Based on what I've read though, it can be up to ~1.8GB of bandwidth for an hour of HD video streaming from Netflix. It'd take 138 hours of HD video streaming to exceed your 250GB cap.
If you've just got the one computer in the house, you can use a bandwidth monitor like NetMeter to see how much you're using before you switch. I think it only monitors the local system though. If you've got multiple computers you'll probably need to do the bandwidth monitoring on your router; hopefully it has that feature.
mightyjongyoSour CrrmEast Bay, CaliforniaRegistered Userregular
edited August 2010
at&t modems usually have wireless capability, so that might be a plus.
I did hear something a while ago about comcast being a beezy about bandwidth if they suspect you're torrenting, but it was just rumors as far as I know.
If you already have comcast cable then it might be a better financial deal to just add internet to your existing setup.
I have a 3Mb/s dry loop (no phone service) DSL line from AT&T and I'm pretty satisfied with it. It's $40 a month and I've not come across any kind of cap that I know of. Only had 2 problems with it.
1.) I had to convince them that I could even get such a thing.
2.) The modem would about once a month just randomly reboot. It did that for a couple years. Now it's a little flakier. There's been a couple evenings where for about half an hour or so it couldn't stay up. However, I have an old ass house, so the wiring at that outlet could very likely be bad, and it worked pretty dang well for about 3 years, so I'm not complaining.
However, Comcast's claims of 15Mbps are garbage. I can get up to 15Mbps, but it seems like half the time if I sit down to watch a movie on Netflix (instant) or a show on a network's website, I'm lucky to get 1Mbps. Comcast claims it's the content provider's bandwidth (or their peering service), but when it's multiple content providers (Netflix, ABC, Hulu, etc) I start to think there's some dirty QoS'ing going on.
There's some QoSing for sure, although I'm not sure what the exact effect would be. You can probably saturate your connection if you do more things in parallel, and if you can't do that, well, yeah, they're being bastards.
Edit: Ho hum. The 15mbit might be their "power burst" or whatever the fuck they call it too. Which is misleading, since you basically only get that for a few seconds.
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I have a 3Mb/s dry loop (no phone service) DSL line from AT&T and I'm pretty satisfied with it. It's $40 a month and I've not come across any kind of cap that I know of. Only had 2 problems with it.
1.) I had to convince them that I could even get such a thing.
2.) The modem would about once a month just randomly reboot. It did that for a couple years. Now it's a little flakier. There's been a couple evenings where for about half an hour or so it couldn't stay up. However, I have an old ass house, so the wiring at that outlet could very likely be bad, and it worked pretty dang well for about 3 years, so I'm not complaining.
3MBs seems to slow to me though, its what we have now and compared to when I use to live at school its so slow.
At school my roomates and I paid for a T1 line, it was basically $35 per person a month so it was fairly reasonable.
I've had nothing but bad experiences with both Comcast and AT&T. I'd suggest looking for a better local company if possible. If you're techsaavy enough to setup your own router, make sure you do that. Comcast and AT&T will both swindle the shit out of you, and AT&T's modemrouter things are pretty terrible. Like, limits you to having 3-5 things connected at once. Including PCs, laptops, iPods, etc.
There's a local fiber company here we use and it's great. And yeah, the 15 cited by comcast works out as 12 most often in speed tests, and then around 900-1.0 Meg download speeds. That "power boost" thing does it.
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If you've just got the one computer in the house, you can use a bandwidth monitor like NetMeter to see how much you're using before you switch. I think it only monitors the local system though. If you've got multiple computers you'll probably need to do the bandwidth monitoring on your router; hopefully it has that feature.
I did hear something a while ago about comcast being a beezy about bandwidth if they suspect you're torrenting, but it was just rumors as far as I know.
If you already have comcast cable then it might be a better financial deal to just add internet to your existing setup.
1.) I had to convince them that I could even get such a thing.
2.) The modem would about once a month just randomly reboot. It did that for a couple years. Now it's a little flakier. There's been a couple evenings where for about half an hour or so it couldn't stay up. However, I have an old ass house, so the wiring at that outlet could very likely be bad, and it worked pretty dang well for about 3 years, so I'm not complaining.
There's some QoSing for sure, although I'm not sure what the exact effect would be. You can probably saturate your connection if you do more things in parallel, and if you can't do that, well, yeah, they're being bastards.
Edit: Ho hum. The 15mbit might be their "power burst" or whatever the fuck they call it too. Which is misleading, since you basically only get that for a few seconds.
3MBs seems to slow to me though, its what we have now and compared to when I use to live at school its so slow.
At school my roomates and I paid for a T1 line, it was basically $35 per person a month so it was fairly reasonable.
There's a local fiber company here we use and it's great. And yeah, the 15 cited by comcast works out as 12 most often in speed tests, and then around 900-1.0 Meg download speeds. That "power boost" thing does it.