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Sid Meier's Civilization V: one...more...post...

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  • NylonathetepNylonathetep Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Rakeeth wrote: »
    I did a game on chieftain to get used to the mechanics.

    I had a continent all to myself and my Arabian ally on another continent declared war as soon as our treaty ended. I mean I know I had very little standing army but I was twice the size of him in the modern era and he was still in the medieval ages. So I bought like two mech infantry instantly and and destroyed his invading army then his whole civ. I hope the AI is smarter at higher levels but I bet they just cheat like in past Civ games.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptiBNgr6UnQ&feature=related

    I think the developer somewhere along that video explained that Higher level AI just makes better decision while lower level AI's decision is more random.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Hmmm, I missed the +50% so I guess it make at least a bit of sense now.

    Still I don't get the benefits of having your schools next to jungles.

    There's a lot of stuff you can learn from studying jungles, I guess? It's kind of weird but I'm not gonna complain about more science! if I've got a city near some jungles.

    Jungles are amazingly biodiverse, just chuck full of thousands and thousands of species for us to try and steal biochemical voodoo from. Oh, and it's nice that Jungles are the fucking death pit they were in 4th. Those bitches could not be chopped down fast enough.

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  • HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Hmmm...if I am in the middle of building a unit or a building, I can't just pay to buy it like other buildings. It shows up as greyed out. Also, you can't really "buy" a unit in the sense that you can pay to hurry production like in civ IV. More of an annoyance than anything else.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Er....yeah, you actually just "buy" the unit, not sub it into your production queue and sub gold for hammers.

    Really this game has tons more uses for gold and that is a significant change, takes some getting used to. I know my first reaction to buying influence with City States was "FUCK THAT" but honestly, as a cheap source of culture/food/whatever they aren't bad.

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  • VinterVinter Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Er....yeah, you actually just "buy" the unit, not sub it into your production queue and sub gold for hammers.

    Really this game has tons more uses for gold and that is a significant change, takes some getting used to. I know my first reaction to buying influence with City States was "FUCK THAT" but honestly, as a cheap source of culture/food/whatever they aren't bad.

    Dont underestimate their military value either, one game where i was raking in 50-100 gold per turn i had about 4 or 5 as my allies and they were all close to a few other civilizations. When i declared war three would swarm them and destroy that civ, there would be so many i could barley get a knight through the horde.

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  • SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Hahahaha. Caesar declared war on me and now I'm wiping the floor with him.

    He wants a peace treaty so he's giving me 147 gold, four cities, a bunch of iron, horses and luxury resources for thirty turns. If I take his cities though it might jump my pop up and I'll have a shitty happiness rating won't I?

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  • KafkaAUKafkaAU Western AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Just leave them as puppets and slowly integrate them.

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  • SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Will they be puppets though if it's Caesar himself who's giving them to me?

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Hahahaha. Caesar declared war on me and now I'm wiping the floor with him.

    He wants a peace treaty so he's giving me 147 gold, four cities, a bunch of iron, horses and luxury resources for thirty turns. If I take his cities though it might jump my pop up and I'll have a shitty happiness rating won't I?

    I had this happen with Arabia. Game starts out and he messages me for a cooperation pact. Little while in he gets uppity because I'm expanding too fast. So I declare war on Kuala Lumpur, which he had declared as his protectorate, which of course leads to more snippy messages and canceled deals. After I mop up the city state I come after his first expansion city and take that.

    Try to sue for peace but he won't hear of it, so I line up units on his gold mine just outside his capital and surprise surprise I get a message from him asking for peace with some frankly ridiculously sweet offerings. It felt good to put that bastard in his place. And he saved me the trouble of dealing with puppet cities because I already had unhappiness in my civ.

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  • KafkaAUKafkaAU Western AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Will they be puppets though if it's Caesar himself who's giving them to me?

    Someone earlier in the thread said you get the same options as if you captured them (except raze I think).

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  • SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Yeah, it let me make them into puppet states.

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  • DracilDracil Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    FINALLY someone did it.
    I present to you, "Civ3 WAY BETTER than Civ4" wharrrgarbbbl. CivFanatic forum headlines from Civ4's release five years ago.

    Lions attacking units... How stupid is that!? (Multi-page thread 1 2)
    Entire Game is a bug (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9)
    Stupid, Evil Civ IV...
    This game is making me mad
    TRAGEDY ! How could we COMPARE ?
    Civ IV: good, but plenty of bad (Multi-page thread 1 2)
    Its the little things the make me INSANE!
    Poor Performance
    Half Baked Release
    Shame on Gamespot and IGN!! (Multi-page thread 1 2 3)
    Why is this game so highly rated? 'myrantings' (Multi-page thread 1 2)
    What a let down!
    Civ 4 works for me, but I'm still angry!
    This game should have been tested longer? (Multi-page thread 1 2)
    The spearman just beated my tank , this game sux and its retarded
    What in Sid's name is wrong with the multiplayer server selection window?!?!
    Useless Advisors (Multi-page thread 1 2)
    With All the Complaints, is it worth buying? (Multi-page thread 1 2 3)

    And many more!!

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  • Feels Good ManFeels Good Man Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    so what game do civ fanatics enjoy


    what civ are they fanatic about

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  • wonderpugwonderpug Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Priceless.
    so what game do civ fanatics enjoy


    what civ are they fanatic about

    No, that's the point. Right now Civ IV is the end-all be all and Civ V is a plague on humanity....just as Civ IV was five years ago when it was still new and foreign.

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  • TagTag Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So each Civ Game lacks polish, ok.

    But the complete lack of a standalone Civipedia is inexcusable.

    The mechanics of this game seem so well done, but they put layer after layer of inexcusable bullshit that they should have figured out over the last 20 years in the way of it.

    That said, its still addictive as hell.

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  • ZxerolZxerol for the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't do so i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Dracil wrote: »
    FINALLY someone did it.
    I present to you, "Civ3 WAY BETTER than Civ4" wharrrgarbbbl. CivFanatic forum headlines from Civ4's release five years ago.

    Lions attacking units... How stupid is that!? (Multi-page thread 1 2)
    Entire Game is a bug (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9)
    Stupid, Evil Civ IV...
    This game is making me mad
    TRAGEDY ! How could we COMPARE ?
    Civ IV: good, but plenty of bad (Multi-page thread 1 2)
    Its the little things the make me INSANE!
    Poor Performance
    Half Baked Release
    Shame on Gamespot and IGN!! (Multi-page thread 1 2 3)
    Why is this game so highly rated? 'myrantings' (Multi-page thread 1 2)
    What a let down!
    Civ 4 works for me, but I'm still angry!
    This game should have been tested longer? (Multi-page thread 1 2)
    The spearman just beated my tank , this game sux and its retarded
    What in Sid's name is wrong with the multiplayer server selection window?!?!
    Useless Advisors (Multi-page thread 1 2)
    With All the Complaints, is it worth buying? (Multi-page thread 1 2 3)

    And many more!!

    Is there not a single-game fanforum out there that isn't completely batshit it some way?

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Hey, I find it really annoying that the production pop up doesn't tell you what was just finished.

    Clearly, Civ 5 is a horrible game.

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  • rayofashrayofash Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    wonderpug wrote: »
    Priceless.
    so what game do civ fanatics enjoy


    what civ are they fanatic about

    No, that's the point. Right now Civ IV is the end-all be all and Civ V is a plague on humanity....just as Civ IV was five years ago when it was still new and foreign.

    My dad still plays Civ 2. Granted his computer is very old and there is no way it's going to run Civ 4 or 5. I don't even think my computer could run Civ 5, I'm gonna try out the demo.
    Hey, I find it really annoying that the production pop up doesn't tell you what was just finished.

    Clearly, Civ 5 is a horrible game.

    I can see that being really annoying.

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  • tofutofu Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Hey, I find it really annoying that the production pop up doesn't tell you what was just finished.

    Clearly, Civ 5 is a horrible game.

    When you go to the production screen to build something new what just finished is at the bottom

    tofu on
  • parabolaparabola Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So I was at war with Greece, they were doing pretty good, so I negotiated 10 turns of peace in return they are declaring war on Rome. Now Rome and Greece are killing each other while i watch in amusement.

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  • 4rch3nemy4rch3nemy Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    tofu wrote: »
    Hey, I find it really annoying that the production pop up doesn't tell you what was just finished.

    Clearly, Civ 5 is a horrible game.

    When you go to the production screen to build something new what just finished is at the bottom

    This.



    When someone finds a non-retarded AI mod (Yes, let's secretly plot against Alexander. No, let's not enter a research agreement with him.) who can challenge me with military tactics and who will actually enter fair trades with me, let me know. :D

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  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2010
    Ok the "Seriously?!" achievement is now way less cool.
    You can get it without even attempting to build the wonder, you just need the AI to build 10 wonders before you build it.

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2010
    What do I need to research to allow units to sail across open waters?

    I'm a little desperate because I keep restarting and it keeps putting me on islands by myself, or with only one city state.

    Sheep on
  • CycloneRangerCycloneRanger Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sheep wrote: »
    What do I need to research to allow units to sail across open waters?
    I think it's Astronomy.

    I remember a few futile astronomy rushes in civ IV; it's available way before you have the scientific capability to research it in a reasonable period of time. It always ended up being much easier to conquer the old world than colonize the new.

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  • EggPuppetEggPuppet Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    This is a fun game, and a huge improvement over Civ 4's combat. No more 300 year sieges of cities with a 20-unit stack of Longbowmen garrisoned.

    However, it's surprisingly buggy. I wouldn't think there would be bugs with the basic mechanics at this point in such a long-running series, but I've run into a few already. The yield icons are insanely inaccurate sometimes, changing to completely new, still-wrong displays after a quicksave-and-load. Sometimes they'll randomly stop drawing on some parts of the map, until you toggle them off and on again. The worker turns-to-complete doesn't seem to count down sensibly, sticking on "1" for two consecutive turns. The game, which normally runs at like 100 fps on this machine, will sometimes drop to 5 fps and stay there until it's rebooted.

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  • arcatharcath Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Is there any way to make games go longer than 500 turns or 2050AD without giving you a victory and if so can I edit a autosave to do it?

    I am still REALLY pissed at losing my Utopian victory because the game decided I won at turn 500 instead of the Utopian victory that would have happened at turn 507.

    Edit: I couldnt trim the fat anymore than this. I think I played to 499 like 6 or 7 times now.
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  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sheep wrote: »
    What do I need to research to allow units to sail across open waters?

    I'm a little desperate because I keep restarting and it keeps putting me on islands by myself, or with only one city state.

    It's the 2nd seafaring tech, optics. Or do you mean crossing ocean squares, rather than coastal squares. I think that requires astronomy.

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  • Jealous DevaJealous Deva Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So what is supposed to be wrong with the germans again? They seem to be working fine for me, giving a unit when I win the roll and gold when I don't.

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  • mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Has anyone played a game that was too hard yet?

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  • nessinnessin Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Dracil wrote: »
    FINALLY someone did it.
    I present to you, "Civ3 WAY BETTER than Civ4" wharrrgarbbbl. CivFanatic forum headlines from Civ4's release five years ago.

    Lions attacking units... How stupid is that!? (Multi-page thread 1 2)
    Entire Game is a bug (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9)
    Stupid, Evil Civ IV...
    This game is making me mad
    TRAGEDY ! How could we COMPARE ?
    Civ IV: good, but plenty of bad (Multi-page thread 1 2)
    Its the little things the make me INSANE!
    Poor Performance
    Half Baked Release
    Shame on Gamespot and IGN!! (Multi-page thread 1 2 3)
    Why is this game so highly rated? 'myrantings' (Multi-page thread 1 2)
    What a let down!
    Civ 4 works for me, but I'm still angry!
    This game should have been tested longer? (Multi-page thread 1 2)
    The spearman just beated my tank , this game sux and its retarded
    What in Sid's name is wrong with the multiplayer server selection window?!?!
    Useless Advisors (Multi-page thread 1 2)
    With All the Complaints, is it worth buying? (Multi-page thread 1 2 3)

    And many more!!

    He missed some of the better ones in that quote. The best part is when you look at the history of Civilization releases. Somehow the franchise gets away with ripping the fun out of the previous game + expansions and releases a new base game that becomes the best of the best after the expansions are all out. Really, it'd be pretty damn funny if this wasn't the third (maybe fourth, but I can't honestly remember the Civ I to Civ II transition) time it's happened with the franchise. Civ III was worse than Civ II until it got some more content added in, Civ IV was worse than Civ III until it got more content added in, and it's already apparent that Civ V is worse than Civ IV until it gets some content added in. I can even say that after already deleting my Civ IV install and sticking with Civ V just for the combat changes and hexes.

    Edit:
    Better/worse defined in long term playability. Civ V (as with baseline Civ IV and Civ III) just lacks so many of the options that made the previous Civilization fun every time you played it, as opposed to the first few dozen or so.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Civ 3 was better than 4, though.

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  • RebootReboot Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So, I'm waiting for my package now and I just tried the demo...

    Is there a way to increase the number of turns? Like in Civ4, we can change the timescale to EPIC so it takes many many turns to pass 1000 years. The demo just felt a bit... quick?

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  • LavaKnightLavaKnight Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I'm seriously crashing a majority of times I try to play. This is getting frustrating.

    Should I try it in DX9 mode?

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  • Feels Good ManFeels Good Man Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    China is really fucking good if you exploit the Honor policies to get a quick Great General and discipline and rush to Chu-Ko-Nu. Them waves o' crossbower's are unstoppable death machines with generals giving them +45%

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  • Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I reinstalled IV to have something to do while working the graveyard shift in the lab on Monday nights. I decided to start up a game to kill some time after finishing homework early.

    Now it's 2 AM and I have class at 9 tomorrow. D:

    Sid Meier what is your secret

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  • hadokenhadoken Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I bought this game instead of condoms. I am in trouble from the missis. I am ok with this.

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  • parabolaparabola Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    LavaKnight wrote: »
    I'm seriously crashing a majority of times I try to play. This is getting frustrating.

    Should I try it in DX9 mode?

    What is your video card? Because it's doing the same for me on a GTX 470.

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  • TheOtherHorsemanTheOtherHorseman Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    hadoken wrote: »
    I bought this game instead of condoms. I am in trouble from the missis. I am ok with this.

    Sounds like that problem really took care of itself.

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  • JediNightJediNight Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Welp I think I'm boned for being able to win now. Didn't get over to this one continent until like 200 turns, and find a computer there with double my score and owning most of the continent. I was initially ahead of him in Science, but I think his sheer number of cities started eclipsing my research, because I went to attack him and out pops a Destroyer already sigh...

    It's seriously OP that coastal cities can garrison both a siege unit and a naval unit. I was getting hit by 3 things at once from the city every turn, not to mention the cannons and rifleman they moved up on the shore. And he beat me to the Himeji Castle, so then all of his troops have a 25% bonus against me already...

    I haven't really played Civ since Civ2 and a little Civ3, so I don't remember how to tailor my starting to go for various builds. Kinda ended up meandering this game around towards Production, then Culture, then Money, now I seem to have problems on all fronts sigh.

    Biggest issue is building new cities destroys your happiness, which makes it hard to build up lots of science and other stuff. And I miss being able to share food from one city to another so that they could specialize more easily.

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  • Edgler VessEdgler Vess Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Ive got a REALLY obnoxious problem..

    My "Fuck Napeloean" post earlier? Yeah its his ass now....

    Ive got a very nice custom built rig that will run anything on ultra high settings and all that, but with the size of the same world I see to randomly freeze between turns (while the computer was thinking).

    I saved right before I attacked him, but I froze after 1 turn....

    Which wouldnt be so bad but one turn when your fighting on this kind of scale (Large map 8 civs 16 city-states), and in for the huge war to finish, a turn takes about 20 minutes...

    Either way, If i can't finish that will bug me some and will just have to make sure to play on smaller maps or something, but the game is still great....

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