[L.A Noire] - Phelps, you didn't use spoiler tags! You're a loose cannon!

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  • Frosty the Snow PlowFrosty the Snow Plow Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    That reminds me.

    Especially now more than ever, going around running over dudes and shooting up the place would make absolutely no sense. I wonder how the overworld is even going to be treated.

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  • CyborgZetaCyborgZeta Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Diamond wrote: »
    CyborgZeta wrote: »
    Call me strange, but I find myself wondering what weapons we'll get in this game. Late 1940s, would love to see some classic guns like the Garand. Thompson should be a given.

    But you're playing as a cop and I feel they're going to keep it authentic, did the cops use Tommy guns back then?
    The Thompson was used by American law enforcement both before and after WWII. I don't how much action the game will have but I'm fairly certain the Tommy Gun will be in the game.

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    CyborgZeta wrote: »
    Diamond wrote: »
    CyborgZeta wrote: »
    Call me strange, but I find myself wondering what weapons we'll get in this game. Late 1940s, would love to see some classic guns like the Garand. Thompson should be a given.

    But you're playing as a cop and I feel they're going to keep it authentic, did the cops use Tommy guns back then?
    The Thompson was used by American law enforcement both before and after WWII. I don't how much action the game will have but I'm fairly certain the Tommy Gun will be in the game.

    Not sure on the Granad and Thompson, but the BAR is definitely in there. In the video during one of the crime scene clips, you clearly see them hold up a rifle with M1918A on it. So at the least we'll see some Bonnie & Clyde style.

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  • l337CrappyJackl337CrappyJack Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    CyborgZeta wrote: »
    Diamond wrote: »
    CyborgZeta wrote: »
    Call me strange, but I find myself wondering what weapons we'll get in this game. Late 1940s, would love to see some classic guns like the Garand. Thompson should be a given.

    But you're playing as a cop and I feel they're going to keep it authentic, did the cops use Tommy guns back then?
    The Thompson was used by American law enforcement both before and after WWII. I don't how much action the game will have but I'm fairly certain the Tommy Gun will be in the game.

    Not sure on the Granad and Thompson, but the BAR is definitely in there. In the video during one of the crime scene clips, you clearly see them hold up a rifle with M1918A on it. So at the least we'll see some Bonnie & Clyde style.

    That doesn't mean you'll use one, though. That just means that at some point that gun is evidence for a crime.

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  • PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    That reminds me.

    Especially now more than ever, going around running over dudes and shooting up the place would make absolutely no sense. I wonder how the overworld is even going to be treated.

    Bribing corrupt cops.

    Honestly though that's a good question, I'm now curious as to how they'll deal with it.

    Also I've been tossing up whether to get into some appropriate reading material to get myself in the right mindset for this game, any recommendations?

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  • EndaroEndaro Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Appropriate viewing material would probably be better, how well do you know Film Noir?

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  • l337CrappyJackl337CrappyJack Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Watch L.A. Confidential like a hundred times in a row. Books schmooks.

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  • tofutofu Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    A noir about detectives? The Naked City easily tops the list

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  • Alucard6986Alucard6986 xbox: Ubeltanzer swtor: UbelRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Endaro wrote:
    Appropriate viewing material would probably be better, how well do you know Film Noir?

    This is the kind of attitude that limits rockstar's writing. Believe it or not, it is worth studying things outside of film for reference and research.

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  • EndaroEndaro Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Endaro wrote:
    Appropriate viewing material would probably be better, how well do you know Film Noir?

    This is the kind of attitude that limits rockstar's writing. Believe it or not, it is worth studying things outside of film for reference and research.

    And your attitude is unnecessarily presumptuous and rude. Believe it or not, this game is based upon and a reference to a film movement, not the literature they were influenced by.

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  • CaptainNemoCaptainNemo Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Watch the Thin Man series.

    Do it do it do it do it do it do it do it dew eet.

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  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Is there a reason they're going with Noire instead of Noir?

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  • l337CrappyJackl337CrappyJack Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Lux wrote: »
    Is there a reason they're going with Noire instead of Noir?

    http://www.amazon.com/L-Noir-Struggle-Americas-Seductive/dp/0307352072

    Somebody already beat 'em to the title.

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  • PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    tofu wrote: »
    A noir about detectives? The Naked City easily tops the list

    I'll add that to the list of what I'm looking in to.

    I asked about books because:

    a) I saw this list on IGN which piqued my interest in the first place and I wanted a second opinion as to what is good.

    and

    b) I want to get back into reading as a hobby again.

    Although that's not to say I won't check out the non-book suggestions, a bit of everything sounds good.

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  • tofutofu Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Pretty much every story by Chandler, Hammett, and Ellroy are at least good noir fiction

    I also like Connelly but I wouldn't put him in the category as the previous 3
    Lux wrote: »
    Is there a reason they're going with Noire instead of Noir?
    Both translations are correct (noir and noire) so it's an aesthetic choice

    Endaro wrote: »
    Endaro wrote:
    Appropriate viewing material would probably be better, how well do you know Film Noir?

    This is the kind of attitude that limits rockstar's writing. Believe it or not, it is worth studying things outside of film for reference and research.

    And your attitude is unnecessarily presumptuous and rude. Believe it or not, this game is based upon and a reference to a film movement, not the literature they were influenced by.
    I think it's a valid criticism based on Rockstar's track record with GTA and RDR

    Of course Rockstar isn't developing so

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  • descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    tofu wrote: »
    Pretty much every story by Chandler, Hammett, and Ellroy are at least good noir fiction

    I also like Connelly but I wouldn't put him in the category as the previous 3

    ^
    Hammett's Red Harvest is a classic of the genre.

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  • RisenPhoenixRisenPhoenix SUPER HOTRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Official Cover Art has been revealed! Tomorrow they're going to reveal the pre-order bonuses.

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  • l337CrappyJackl337CrappyJack Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Wow, Orange AND blue? Imagine that!

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  • tofutofu Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    That's some terrible cover art right there

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  • IcemopperIcemopper Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    tofu wrote: »
    That's some terrible cover art right there

    B-b-b-but it's got all the classic signs of a great cover! Blue, orange, protagonist holding a weapon at his side and kinda looking around, some motivation in the background (dead girl) and possible enemies scheming on the other side! Classic good/evil mystery!


    Yeah, it is crap.

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  • RisenPhoenixRisenPhoenix SUPER HOTRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Wow, Orange AND blue? Imagine that!

    My thoughts exactly. At least RDR was 'Hey, have a shitload of red!'

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  • PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    A part of me is hoping that Australia gets to keep the previous art, but Rockstar tend to have one cover across all countries if memory serves.

    Can't wait to hear about the bonuses, I'm hoping it's better than RDR's limited edition.

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  • plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    The bonus should be a fedora.

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  • PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    That would be the best idea.

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  • l337CrappyJackl337CrappyJack Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Preorder bonuses were confirmed.

    http://www.gametrailers.com/news/l-a-noire-pre-order-incentives/3066

    Good news! Unless you preorder and buy the game 4 times, you'll be missing out on cases, stat-increasing outfits, and even an entire minigame!

    At least the comments tend to hover around "Fuck you".

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  • plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    This is not how you reward people who preorder games, Rockstar. This is how you piss them off.

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  • Torso BoyTorso Boy Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    God fucking damnit.

    At the very least, I want to be able to spend a couple extra bucks and get everything. But no.

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  • l337CrappyJackl337CrappyJack Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    It's cool, it only took them about nine months to release the two costumes they didn't use for preorder bonuses on Red Dead Redemption. I'm sure we'll get all that extra content by 2013 at the least.

    I hate this industry.

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  • ArchonexArchonex No hard feelings, right? Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Don't worry.


    I'm sure the preorder bonuses will be up for an overpriced amount of money sometime in the future.

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  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Fucking shit. I preordered at Amazon, and I don't want a goddamn suit that does things.

    Maybe Im just old fashioned, but I hate pre-order bonus' that give you skills and health and shit and essentially unbalance any game. Dead Rising 2 was my most anticipated game last year, and I sold those pre-order bonus' so fast, because I don't WANT to be able to take more damage - Im assuming you built the game around me taking the APPROPRIATE amount of damage without pre-ordering from Best Buy.

    I want that Vice Case, I want the game day 1, but I fucking hate GameStop and have a shitload of Amazon credit.

    Motherfucker.

    And if Red Dead is any indication, it's not like we can hope for DLC. The War Horse, Golden Guns and GameStop outfit (Dead Aim? Something like that) haven't ever been available.

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  • MrVyngaardMrVyngaard Live From New Etoile Straight Outta SosariaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    plufim wrote: »
    This is not how you reward people who preorder games, Rockstar. This is how you piss them off.

    Yeah... I love noir, but seeing that just put out the moxie, put it out in the hard cold rain to think of better days while the lights go out.

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  • plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    The Red Dead stuff is only items though, right? These are entire goddam cases. If they put them up for purchase, there would be a much higher incentive to get them.

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  • l337CrappyJackl337CrappyJack Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    mxmarks wrote: »
    Fucking shit. I preordered at Amazon, and I don't want a goddamn suit that does things.

    Maybe Im just old fashioned, but I hate pre-order bonus' that give you skills and health and shit and essentially unbalance any game. Dead Rising 2 was my most anticipated game last year, and I sold those pre-order bonus' so fast, because I don't WANT to be able to take more damage - Im assuming you built the game around me taking the APPROPRIATE amount of damage without pre-ordering from Best Buy.

    I want that Vice Case, I want the game day 1, but I fucking hate GameStop and have a shitload of Amazon credit.

    Motherfucker.

    And if Red Dead is any indication, it's not like we can hope for DLC. The War Horse, Golden Guns and GameStop outfit (Dead Aim? Something like that) haven't ever been available.

    I agree with this completely, although I am a total sucker for having tons of options for costume changes in games, gameplay bonus or no, so limiting that pisses me off from the word go. But then to cut out actual ingame mission content, guaranteeing that no matter where I preorder, I'm missing some of the game? Makes it really hard for me to not consider just adding it to my Gamefly or Goozex queue and saving that money for a new pair of shoes.

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  • DecoyDecoy Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    All I can do is shake my head. Business "tactics" like this really just frustrate me. And they wonder why people pirate games. Treat your customer better, and by better I mean fairly, and you'll see it come back to you ten-fold in the form of more NEW sales and more profit.

    Any pre-launch story content (ie missions) specifically removed from the game so it can be used as leverage for competing pre-orders and/or Day 1 DLC is the most underhanded thing they can do.

    Bah. So frustrating.

    Edit: I feel the need to clarify though. I love the games Rockstar makes. The GTA series, and especially the more recent RDR have to be amongst the most entertaining games I've ever played. And LA Noire looks to just continue the streak. Am I still going to get the game, yes. I had it pre-ordered weeks ago not even thinking there would be pre-order/DLC exclusive shenanigans. My comments above are merely me expressing my frustration for the way the market is going in general. Selling incomplete games in order to milk ACTUAL paying customer out of more money. Oh well, it's late and I have some Archer to watch.

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  • CarbonFireCarbonFire See you in the countryRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Decoy wrote: »
    All I can do is shake my head. Business "tactics" like this really just frustrate me. And they wonder why people pirate games. Treat your customer better, and by better I mean fairly, and you'll see it come back to you ten-fold in the form of more NEW sales and more profit.

    Any pre-launch story content (ie missions) specifically removed from the game so it can be used as leverage for competing pre-orders and/or Day 1 DLC is the most underhanded thing they can do.

    Bah. So frustrating.

    Edit: I feel the need to clarify though. I love the games Rockstar makes. The GTA series, and especially the more recent RDR have to be amongst the most entertaining games I've ever played. And LA Noire looks to just continue the streak. Am I still going to get the game, yes. I had it pre-ordered weeks ago not even thinking there would be pre-order/DLC exclusive shenanigans. My comments above are merely me expressing my frustration for the way the market is going in general. Selling incomplete games in order to milk ACTUAL paying customer out of more money. Oh well, it's late and I have some Archer to watch.

    Their reasoning is simple....you're going to buy it anyway. As long as they keep making a product you want, they have you over a barrel. There's simply no downside to it for them, because every publisher does it now. Sure, you could not buy their game, and that hurts their bottom line a little. But they're banking that you'll buy it anyway, and even if you don't shell out money for the DLC later, some people will, so it's a net-win for them.

    Capitalism. Ain't it a bitch.

    Locking out actual quests/gameplay as retailer-exclusive preorder bonuses IS a new level of suck though. :?

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Well two of them are only costumes, so Amazon and Best Buy are out

    GameStop and Wal-Mart have actual missions, but GameStop has a mission and costume so that's where I'm grabbing it

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  • tofutofu Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I'll just wait for a price drop

    Or maybe I'll buy it used

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  • PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Well Standard Edition it is then.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I am going to place a wild guess that the missions will be available as DLC sometime down the road.

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  • Frosty the Snow PlowFrosty the Snow Plow Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    I am going to place a wild guess that the missions will be available as DLC sometime down the road.

    Rockstar typically doesn't do that, but here's hoping.

    The bonuses have all the worst qualities of preorder bonuses (store exclusivity, entire missions taken out, Gamestop disparity), but they're also pretty underwhelming. I want to get mad, but I'll live without another dapper suit or one more case in a game sure to be packed with content.

    Slightly unrelated, but the War Horse bonus for Red Dead Redemption was awesome. Loved that horse to pieces. <3

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