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I ended up spawning on a tiny island and I just walked around until I found a spot to dig a home in.
It was far enough away I debated building a bridge and a minecart track but then I just got bored with single player.
It didn't hurt that I ended up losing just about all of my iron either.
Actually it totally did.
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Mizuumipet dog you've been eating my video gamehow could you eat my video gameRegistered Userregular
edited December 2010
i ended up building mine just next to my spawn by mistake, so whenever I die at night it's always ohshitgetinsidegetinsidegetINSIDE
i built a ladder on the back wall just for those occasions
Does anyone else lag horribly now? I haven't played for a while, but it seems my game almost freezes up even without any other programs on and with cpu at less than 100% usage. And this is in already generated areas.
so if i wanted to run a Minecraft server, what kind of set-up would be good hardware wise in terms of RAM n shit yo?
Lets see, as far as I know minecraft isnt coded to use both cores of a dual core processor so id say a high single core processor/just about any dual core would work. For RAM id say around 2-4GB, tending toward the higher side if possible, though it could likely be less if the computer isnt doing anything else. I think another important factor is a good internet connection and being able to handle the traffic if a lot of people will be using the server.
See I bought ME2 when I realized it was only twenty bucks and played that for a while.
Then I discovered Dwarf Fortress.
Then I started playing Dwarf Fortress.
Then I never stopped playing Dwarf Fortress.
i tried out dwarf fortress today
i spent ten minutes wondering why i was inside of some dark cavern and none of my dudes were to be seen
i had to go to the buildings menu to finally shift the view to my wagon, where all my shit was
i still have no idea how to do anything (i read everything in the menus except the technical bits :U because i figured i could work it out on the job) or how to move the view beyond the macro view on the far right
See I bought ME2 when I realized it was only twenty bucks and played that for a while.
Then I discovered Dwarf Fortress.
Then I started playing Dwarf Fortress.
Then I never stopped playing Dwarf Fortress.
i tried out dwarf fortress today
i spent ten minutes wondering why i was inside of some dark cavern and none of my dudes were to be seen
i had to go to the buildings menu to finally shift the view to my wagon, where all my shit was
i still have no idea how to do anything (i read everything in the menus except the technical bits :U because i figured i could work it out on the job) or how to move the view beyond the macro view on the far right
I think tab fiddles the camera around, and use the wiki as a bible when you first play
even if you're experienced with roguelikes and shit DF is nearly unplayable without knowing what's going on
I have two mines in single player now, one has a connection to some kinda magma flow chamber.
It's spooky.
EDIT: One of my mines I'm actually doing as sorta an under a mountain quarry right now. It's a big hall and it's getting me more stone than I know what to do with.
See I bought ME2 when I realized it was only twenty bucks and played that for a while.
Then I discovered Dwarf Fortress.
Then I started playing Dwarf Fortress.
Then I never stopped playing Dwarf Fortress.
i tried out dwarf fortress today
i spent ten minutes wondering why i was inside of some dark cavern and none of my dudes were to be seen
i had to go to the buildings menu to finally shift the view to my wagon, where all my shit was
i still have no idea how to do anything (i read everything in the menus except the technical bits :U because i figured i could work it out on the job) or how to move the view beyond the macro view on the far right
I think tab fiddles the camera around, and use the wiki as a bible when you first play
even if you're experienced with roguelikes and shit DF is nearly unplayable without knowing what's going on
There's the Dorf thread about 4 forum pages back. I thought it had a link to the tutorial but I guess it doesn't.
To prevent a derail from going any further I'll just post this and warn you that your in for a bi-polar experience. This game can be really fun but also really frustrating.
edit: consequently, I'll be taking a break from DF and logging back in soon. I wanna see if I can make a copy of the Bethla Garrison Sluece.
See I bought ME2 when I realized it was only twenty bucks and played that for a while.
Then I discovered Dwarf Fortress.
Then I started playing Dwarf Fortress.
Then I never stopped playing Dwarf Fortress.
i tried out dwarf fortress today
i spent ten minutes wondering why i was inside of some dark cavern and none of my dudes were to be seen
i had to go to the buildings menu to finally shift the view to my wagon, where all my shit was
i still have no idea how to do anything (i read everything in the menus except the technical bits :U because i figured i could work it out on the job) or how to move the view beyond the macro view on the far right
I think tab fiddles the camera around, and use the wiki as a bible when you first play
even if you're experienced with roguelikes and shit DF is nearly unplayable without knowing what's going on
There's the Dorf thread about 4 forum pages back. I thought it had a link to the tutorial but I guess it doesn't.
To prevent a derail from going any further I'll just post this and warn you that your in for a bi-polar experience. This game can be really fun but also really frustrating.
edit: consequently, I'll be taking a break from DF and logging back in soon. I wanna see if I can make a copy of the Bethla Garrison Sluece.
Quick question, since the DF thread on G&T seems to have died with no remake: how do you move around in the labor menu? Arrow keys move the cursor off the dorf, shift, ctrl, and alt arrow keys doesn't do it, and h,u,k stuff doesn't seem to do it either. I wanted to play the newest version of DF, but it seems no third party job manager works with it yet, and I can't for the life of me get the in-game one to scroll through jobs so I can turn them on and off.
I'm trying to figure out the purpose of the steam/furnace mine cart. It doesn't go on its own and I have to click it to get it to move. I also can't connect it to another mine cart so I can tag along for the ride. I suppose it's only good if you have a bunch of blocks to transfer to the surface for some mega project--This requires that you never left your work for 8 days straight and needed the storage space. Or it's a multiplayer server and no one wants to swap inventories...
Any ideas how to make it useful for a lonely miner?
Portals: What's the deal? I made a portal at my base and went through it, which of course created a portal in the Nether. I then go back to my spawn, hundreds of blocks away, create another portal, and end up at the exact same portal in the Nether. Also, when I exit the portal in the Nether, I'm brought to a third portal near my base.
I'm trying to figure out the purpose of the steam/furnace mine cart. It doesn't go on its own and I have to click it to get it to move. I also can't connect it to another mine cart so I can tag along for the ride. I suppose it's only good if you have a bunch of blocks to transfer to the surface for some mega project--This requires that you never left your work for 8 days straight and needed the storage space. Or it's a multiplayer server and no one wants to swap inventories...
Any ideas how to make it useful for a lonely miner?
The powered minecart requires coal placed into its furnace to run. You also must be facing the direction on the track you want to go when you load it with coal (i.e. if you want it to go left on the track, be to the right of the cart, facing left.
[cart][you]
powered minecarts can only push, not pull, so you have to place them behind the storage cart to be pushed
[storage][furnace cart][you]
In addition, they can't seem to climb slopes of greater than about 2-3 horizontal for every 1 vertical (y = 1/3x)
[block]
[block][block][block][block]
This is all secondhand info I've heard; never used minecarts much myself, mostly because I tend to restart before I can gather enough iron to do a decent rail.
anyone figure out what the secret thing was in the update?
Speculation:Something that gets fished for, Magic/Nether stuff, or a crafting thing. Repeat a bunch of recipes using different materials(Iron bars?)
Maybe it's a magma forge! Or a use for cloth/slime.
He did say:
On a whim, added super exclusive clan cloaks for Mojang Employees
* .. and something else, which is even more rare
Which would imply that it is something even rarer than the Mojang clan cloaks, like an item just for him. I doubt that is it, but it is one way the sentence can be interpreted.
Edit: Maybe it is a special cloak for women who have slept with him HEYOOOOOOOOOO
Portals: What's the deal? I made a portal at my base and went through it, which of course created a portal in the Nether. I then go back to my spawn, hundreds of blocks away, create another portal, and end up at the exact same portal in the Nether. Also, when I exit the portal in the Nether, I'm brought to a third portal near my base.
I'm trying to figure out the purpose of the steam/furnace mine cart. It doesn't go on its own and I have to click it to get it to move. I also can't connect it to another mine cart so I can tag along for the ride. I suppose it's only good if you have a bunch of blocks to transfer to the surface for some mega project--This requires that you never left your work for 8 days straight and needed the storage space. Or it's a multiplayer server and no one wants to swap inventories...
Any ideas how to make it useful for a lonely miner?
The powered minecart requires coal placed into its furnace to run. You also must be facing the direction on the track you want to go when you load it with coal (i.e. if you want it to go left on the track, be to the right of the cart, facing left.
[cart][you]
powered minecarts can only push, not pull, so you have to place them behind the storage cart to be pushed
[storage][furnace cart][you]
In addition, they can't seem to climb slopes of greater than about 2-3 horizontal for every 1 vertical (y = 1/3x)
[block]
[block][block][block][block]
This is all secondhand info I've heard; never used minecarts much myself, mostly because I tend to restart before I can gather enough iron to do a decent rail.
Thanks Argus, that's what I was looking for.
On the nether portals, I have no idea as I have never encountered one.
Portals: What's the deal? I made a portal at my base and went through it, which of course created a portal in the Nether. I then go back to my spawn, hundreds of blocks away, create another portal, and end up at the exact same portal in the Nether. Also, when I exit the portal in the Nether, I'm brought to a third portal near my base.
This is a combination of a couple things. First, the Nether is "compressed" compared to the normal world, in that traveling one block horizontally in the Nether is equivalent to traveling either eight or sixteen blocks (not quite sure which; I've heard both) in the normal world. I would assume there's no vertical compression since both worlds are the same height. You can think of it as either 64 (8x8x1) or 256 (16x16x1) locations in the normal world being mapped to one location in the Nether, and vice versa.
Second, when you create a portal in the Nether by traveling through a portal in the normal world only certain places are valid locations for the Nether portal. I think this is basically any piece of ground that has enough room above it to fit the portal, but regardless of the actual criteria the important thing is some places are valid locations and others aren't. If the place the new portal is supposed to go isn't a valid location, the game will pick a valid location by some means (probably just finding the closest one) and create the portal there.
So what's happening in your game? When you created your first portal it came out in the Nether in an invalid location; you were probably in the middle of a mountain somewhere. The game then moved the Nether portal to a valid location as per above.
When you went back through the portal to the normal world the game took the Nether portal's location, picked one of the normal world locations that particular Nether location maps to, and created a portal there. In other words, if the game didn't move portals at all, that real world location (or one of the ones close to it) is where you'd have to make your portal to get the Nether portal to be where it was.
Finally, you went back to your spawn and created another portal. Due to distance compression the two locations in the normal world mapped to locations in the Nether that were much closer to each other. Depending on the distance between the two and the actual compression factor between the normal world and the Nether, they could have ended up as little as 25 or so blocks away. Apparently, given the geography of your particular Nether those two locations got moved to the same third location when the game was trying to place the new portal, and that's why they both go to the same place.
After Christmas those sections will be opened up for you guys so for now don't do anything yet. I wanna send a copy of the map to the claim folks. I don't know when their stuff will be copied back but I'd like to keep their things pristine as possible.
I'm gonna pop in sometime before Christmas and try to secure their inventories somewhere so no one messes with their stuff, or what stuff they have.
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webguy20I spend too much time on the InternetRegistered Userregular
edited December 2010
I completely missed the thing about claims. Whats going on? I hope I didn't have to restake my claim to my airship!
We are still at the same place we were, same map and everything. The server is currently down because of the beta patch and waiting on Hey0's mod to update. The claims Nuka was talking about were for people that had claimed land and had not done anything with it since the start of the new map going up right after halloween.
Edit: Ok so what is happening about claims is that people that dont have the time to build right now and will get a copy of the map to build on at there leisure and then it will be imported into the current map somewere. this will also open up their previously cliamed land to the people that want to use it right away.
edit2: and just to address this question as well, we will not be getting a new map anytime soon. A major smp gameplay update would have to go out for us to consider starting a new map up again and we dont forsee that kind of update coming out for a while.
Yeah, so apparently the super big secret thing is dragons. I haven't confirmed it, but i'm working on that now. Also, he did something to break my game. Not broken forever...it's just that I can't find any goddamn COAL! I've started 4 maps now on Singleplayer and I've yet to find coal up to the 3rd night. I just keep restarting hoping to get a nice spawn point.
Also, some have said that the dragons are in the underground cave systems near lava. Supposedly super rare, but we know how the community over on the Minecraft forums are.
PS. LEAF DECAY! Hells yeah! Finally no more hours of pruning or risking setting the whole damn world on fire just to clean up some floating blocks of green stuff!
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It was far enough away I debated building a bridge and a minecart track but then I just got bored with single player.
It didn't hurt that I ended up losing just about all of my iron either.
Actually it totally did.
i built a ladder on the back wall just for those occasions
See I bought ME2 when I realized it was only twenty bucks and played that for a while.
Then I discovered Dwarf Fortress.
Then I started playing Dwarf Fortress.
Then I never stopped playing Dwarf Fortress.
Lets see, as far as I know minecraft isnt coded to use both cores of a dual core processor so id say a high single core processor/just about any dual core would work. For RAM id say around 2-4GB, tending toward the higher side if possible, though it could likely be less if the computer isnt doing anything else. I think another important factor is a good internet connection and being able to handle the traffic if a lot of people will be using the server.
I keep digging greedily and deep.
i tried out dwarf fortress today
i spent ten minutes wondering why i was inside of some dark cavern and none of my dudes were to be seen
i had to go to the buildings menu to finally shift the view to my wagon, where all my shit was
i still have no idea how to do anything (i read everything in the menus except the technical bits :U because i figured i could work it out on the job) or how to move the view beyond the macro view on the far right
buy planescape has been eating all my free hours
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I only found four bits sofar.
Steam
Speculation:Something that gets fished for, Magic/Nether stuff, or a crafting thing. Repeat a bunch of recipes using different materials(Iron bars?)
Maybe it's a magma forge! Or a use for cloth/slime.
I think tab fiddles the camera around, and use the wiki as a bible when you first play
even if you're experienced with roguelikes and shit DF is nearly unplayable without knowing what's going on
kpop appreciation station i also like to tweet some
"Here goes attempt 453 of turning these 3 pieces of iron and a chunk of wood into something useful. Nope."
It's spooky.
EDIT: One of my mines I'm actually doing as sorta an under a mountain quarry right now. It's a big hall and it's getting me more stone than I know what to do with.
There's the Dorf thread about 4 forum pages back. I thought it had a link to the tutorial but I guess it doesn't.
To prevent a derail from going any further I'll just post this and warn you that your in for a bi-polar experience. This game can be really fun but also really frustrating.
edit: consequently, I'll be taking a break from DF and logging back in soon. I wanna see if I can make a copy of the Bethla Garrison Sluece.
He fixed heaps of shit and it ended up pretty good again plus with a lot of features that were only single player.
Now its probably a bit buggy again since he did a major update on beta but likely not as bad as it was on Halloween.
Quick question, since the DF thread on G&T seems to have died with no remake: how do you move around in the labor menu? Arrow keys move the cursor off the dorf, shift, ctrl, and alt arrow keys doesn't do it, and h,u,k stuff doesn't seem to do it either. I wanted to play the newest version of DF, but it seems no third party job manager works with it yet, and I can't for the life of me get the in-game one to scroll through jobs so I can turn them on and off.
kpop appreciation station i also like to tweet some
Thanks, it was +/-
Jesus Christ, they need a manual just to explain how to navigate menus.
Any ideas how to make it useful for a lonely miner?
The powered minecart requires coal placed into its furnace to run. You also must be facing the direction on the track you want to go when you load it with coal (i.e. if you want it to go left on the track, be to the right of the cart, facing left.
[cart][you]
powered minecarts can only push, not pull, so you have to place them behind the storage cart to be pushed
[storage][furnace cart][you]
In addition, they can't seem to climb slopes of greater than about 2-3 horizontal for every 1 vertical (y = 1/3x)
[block]
[block][block][block][block]
This is all secondhand info I've heard; never used minecarts much myself, mostly because I tend to restart before I can gather enough iron to do a decent rail.
He did say:
Which would imply that it is something even rarer than the Mojang clan cloaks, like an item just for him. I doubt that is it, but it is one way the sentence can be interpreted.
Edit: Maybe it is a special cloak for women who have slept with him HEYOOOOOOOOOO
Thanks Argus, that's what I was looking for.
On the nether portals, I have no idea as I have never encountered one.
This is a combination of a couple things. First, the Nether is "compressed" compared to the normal world, in that traveling one block horizontally in the Nether is equivalent to traveling either eight or sixteen blocks (not quite sure which; I've heard both) in the normal world. I would assume there's no vertical compression since both worlds are the same height. You can think of it as either 64 (8x8x1) or 256 (16x16x1) locations in the normal world being mapped to one location in the Nether, and vice versa.
Second, when you create a portal in the Nether by traveling through a portal in the normal world only certain places are valid locations for the Nether portal. I think this is basically any piece of ground that has enough room above it to fit the portal, but regardless of the actual criteria the important thing is some places are valid locations and others aren't. If the place the new portal is supposed to go isn't a valid location, the game will pick a valid location by some means (probably just finding the closest one) and create the portal there.
So what's happening in your game? When you created your first portal it came out in the Nether in an invalid location; you were probably in the middle of a mountain somewhere. The game then moved the Nether portal to a valid location as per above.
When you went back through the portal to the normal world the game took the Nether portal's location, picked one of the normal world locations that particular Nether location maps to, and created a portal there. In other words, if the game didn't move portals at all, that real world location (or one of the ones close to it) is where you'd have to make your portal to get the Nether portal to be where it was.
Finally, you went back to your spawn and created another portal. Due to distance compression the two locations in the normal world mapped to locations in the Nether that were much closer to each other. Depending on the distance between the two and the actual compression factor between the normal world and the Nether, they could have ended up as little as 25 or so blocks away. Apparently, given the geography of your particular Nether those two locations got moved to the same third location when the game was trying to place the new portal, and that's why they both go to the same place.
After Christmas those sections will be opened up for you guys so for now don't do anything yet. I wanna send a copy of the map to the claim folks. I don't know when their stuff will be copied back but I'd like to keep their things pristine as possible.
I'm gonna pop in sometime before Christmas and try to secure their inventories somewhere so no one messes with their stuff, or what stuff they have.
Origin ID: Discgolfer27
Untappd ID: Discgolfer1981
Edit: Ok so what is happening about claims is that people that dont have the time to build right now and will get a copy of the map to build on at there leisure and then it will be imported into the current map somewere. this will also open up their previously cliamed land to the people that want to use it right away.
edit2: and just to address this question as well, we will not be getting a new map anytime soon. A major smp gameplay update would have to go out for us to consider starting a new map up again and we dont forsee that kind of update coming out for a while.
Maybe I'll try some single player instead.
Also, some have said that the dragons are in the underground cave systems near lava. Supposedly super rare, but we know how the community over on the Minecraft forums are.
PS. LEAF DECAY! Hells yeah! Finally no more hours of pruning or risking setting the whole damn world on fire just to clean up some floating blocks of green stuff!
There's no new textures to confirm this, by all other accounts I've heard.
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