acting and A-hole and moveing someones car

Conroy Bumpas

(sorry abou the spelling)

i live ontop of a shop and there is scrap bit of land that i am allowed to park my car on in my contract. its only just big enough to get a very small car in. and its so small between two walls that if i park in it you cant get out of the passengers side.

this space is just off of a big super markets car park witch you have to pay to park in.

people keep trying to park in it to avoid paying. and also people from the other shops block me in. the worst of witch and from a pizza company. ive spoken to the traffic wardens for the big car park and they say my space is my private land and they cant do anything about it

so when ever i want to go anyware i have to walk in all the shops asking who on the car thats blocking me. and some times i have been an hour late for work because of this. ive gone in all the shops and told them they cant do this. but they dont seem to pay any attention. also a slight probem is most of the pizza people are not english speeking and seem to not give a fuck about cars. ive seen them reverse into other cars and brake off bumpers and just drive off. my car has had lots of dents apear in it.

im getting a bit pissed off

most of these blokes leve their cars unlocked.

so apart from one of these bloke hitting me. what are there any leagle issues with me opening ther car door, taking off the brake and pussing it out the way?

i know it seems like a massive arsehole thing to do. but im feeling it might be the only way to get my message across

dispatch.o

Get a sign or a pair of posts and a chain for it. I have seen people put concrete in empty buckets with a wood pole sticking out of the top and set it in the middle of the driveway with a sign mounted on it. It seemed to work.

MyDcmbr

One of these



and the number to one of these



Problem solved.

Conroy Bumpas

sadly two problems with buying a tow truck. id need another space to keep it and the cost.

the signs are all good but most of the problem is them blocking me in. and those pizza blokes dont care.

MyDcmbr

Conroy Bumpas wrote: »

sadly two problems with buying a tow truck. id need another space to keep it and the cost.

the signs are all good but most of the problem is them blocking me in. and those pizza blokes dont care.

Not buy a tow truck, the number to a tow truck company that can come out and tow them away.

Conroy Bumpas

im the master of really bad diagrams

Killgrimage

If you set up a NO PARKING sign where the guy behind you is not supposed to park, it'll be harder for him to park there. And when he does, call the fucking tow truck to haul his ass away. I guarantee that if you are consistent about this, people will stop parking there.

Improvolone

You need to put a sign up and call a tow company the fucking moment someone parks there. Tow trucks don't charge you to come get a car, they charge the asshole who parked somewhere he shouldn't to get his car back. I would also, for safe measure, tell the pizza place that you will be towing any car parked there and if they don't want their deliveries to be late they should tell their employees.

Don't break into the persons car to move it.

Conroy Bumpas

anyone know who to do that in the uk? coz i know some law has been passes banning car clamping etc...

also the bit of land the car blocking me in on technicly dosnt really belong to anyone. it used to be a service road to the shops. then the supermaket knocked down most of the shops and built their car park. laving my space on the waste land and a strip of lan next to the spases.

all im saying is leagaly they are not parked on my land if that has any bearing on it

Coyote Duster

I think the key here is to establish who owns the land and, if you're renting, if you have designated access to use it. All of this on paper would be nice. Then you can start putting up signs and whatnot.

You may want to talk to your local council too.

Improvolone

If your spot is a legitimate piece of land owned by somebody, nobody has the right to block access to it.
Can't cite any specific law but, yea... talking to the local council (with paperwork and photos in hand) would be a great idea.

Conroy Bumpas

well ive seen the plans of when its the old road and now its the supermarkets and basicly its a 6 foot wide strip of forgotten land.

also these blokes that work for the pizza dont evan speek english, and they dont give a fuck. ive seen them park in the supermarket carpark without paying the warden gives them a ticket and they just throw it on the flaw. most of their cars have eastern europen number plates on them. and as i said above ive seen them reverce into parcked cars, rip bumpers off and just drive away.

ive been going in there shop and speeking to the manager lots ( this has been going on about 2 years). but he barely speeks english

also bacause they are delivery drivers. if i was to call a tow truck they would be gone buy the time the towers got there

schuss

Tow truck drivers are miraculously fast when it involves towing someone who has to pay to get their car back. If you're in any sort of populated area, 20 minutes or less is pretty common. Tickets are one thing, but when someone else has the car, they're forced to alter behavior.

Spawnbroker

If they come out of work and their car is gone, they'll start to give a fuck.

saltiness

Towing works. Put up a sign and get their cars towed. In San Francisco this is what everyone does. If someone is blocking your driveway at all here you just call parking enforcement and it'll be towed in 10mins.

edit: Looking at your diagram you could also just park where the pizza car is directly behind yours.

MagicToaster

As for keeping people out of the parking, why not get something like this?



You fasten it to the ground and pop it up when you're not there. It's a nice little barricade that collapses when you need to use your space. My grandmother has it in her apartment, it's very useful.

aioua

Also if you're wondering about whether it's legal to tow someone or not, just call the tow company. They should be experts on it.

mugginns

Do you have a landlord? Do they not have anything to help you?

Improvolone

Aioua wrote: »

Also if you're wondering about whether it's legal to tow someone or not, just call the tow company. They should be experts on it.

Eh... tow companies can be pretty sketchy.

Hevach

Improvolone wrote: »

Aioua wrote: »

Also if you're wondering about whether it's legal to tow someone or not, just call the tow company. They should be experts on it.

Eh... tow companies can be pretty sketchy.

I'll second this. Many of them will tow somebody who you don't have the right to get towed (know somebody who had this happen to them - towed off his own property by a tree service trying to get to an adjacent yard), others may not be particularly diligent about making sure you're in the right.

In my area, if you have somebody towed and it turns out you were in the wrong doing so, they still have to pay to get their car out of impound and they have to sue you for restitution.

On the other hand, when you are in the right, that little fact works to your advantage because it makes the process pretty much hassle free.

aioua

Huh, maybe where I'm at the laws are sensible and it's the tow company that's held (at least partly) responsible. At least, the one time I did have to tow someone they asked me a bunch about the situation, and wanted to get docs proving I owned the parking spot.

Improvolone

I recently had someone towed, he took info off my driver's license and then took the car. Which is to say, he didn't do very much to determine if I was in the right or not.

Zeon

Ok i didnt bother to read the entire thread because the answer is simple. Call a tow company and tell them you repeatedly have people double parking and blocking your private parking spot. Any tow company will be HAPPY to solely do business with you if this is a constant problem. Put up a sign saying no parking, and as soon as someones parked behind you blocking you in, or parked in your spot, call the tow company. Theyll be there within minutes and tow the car away because its good for them, they make money. No need to involve a land lord or any of the shops or traffic cops (especially because theyve told you they wont be helping).

Dont feel bad about it. People who park like assholes deserve to get towed if theyre dumb enough to leave their car parked ridiculously for a long enough time that a tow truck can get there. 1 or 2 minutes i can understand, or if theyre there watching it to make sure theyre not blocking anyone, but to double park and block someone in for upwards of an hour? Yeah, fuck them.

Farout Foolio

Zeon wrote: »

Ok i didnt bother to read the entire thread because the answer is simple. Call a tow company and tell them you repeatedly have people double parking and blocking your private parking spot. Any tow company will be HAPPY to solely do business with you if this is a constant problem. Put up a sign saying no parking, and as soon as someones parked behind you blocking you in, or parked in your spot, call the tow company. Theyll be there within minutes and tow the car away because its good for them, they make money. No need to involve a land lord or any of the shops or traffic cops (especially because theyve told you they wont be helping).

Dont feel bad about it. People who park like assholes deserve to get towed if theyre dumb enough to leave their car parked ridiculously for a long enough time that a tow truck can get there. 1 or 2 minutes i can understand, or if theyre there watching it to make sure theyre not blocking anyone, but to double park and block someone in for upwards of an hour? Yeah, fuck them.

Yes, pretty much this, but! To reiterate, consult a third party, like your council or perhaps the police non-emergency number, to ensure that this is your legal right. If this is the case, then yes, do the above until it makes you giddy.

Improvolone

My only concern would be the difference in towing laws in the UK vs USA, which is where most of the advice is coming from I'd presume.

Modern Man

A question- does your little parking area open up onto a public street, or onto someone else's private property?

The answer might make a pretty big difference. If the neighboring land is private, you may have no right to tow people for blocking your spot. I read your OP to mean that your spot opens onto a private parking lot. I'm obviously not an expert on UK laws, but I don't think you would have the right to tow people for blocking you, unless you have something like an easement for access.

acidlacedpenguin

you should also print out a boatload of leaflets from youparklikeanasshole.com

even if it's ineffective I'm sure it'd be highly entertaining.

Modern Man wrote: »

A question- does your little parking area open up onto a public street, or onto someone else's private property?

The answer might make a pretty big difference. If the neighboring land is private, you may have no right to tow people for blocking your spot. I read your OP to mean that your spot opens onto a private parking lot. I'm obviously not an expert on UK laws, but I don't think you would have the right to tow people for blocking you, unless you have something like an easement for access.

I think part of his problem is that they're actually parking IN his spot, so where it opens to shouldn't matter (though again, only if he and/or his landlord have the legal right to the spot)

Sarcastro

Legally, I think it would all depend on whether or not the pizza car was technically in his driveway. You could find out by obtaining a property sketch from city records. It could very well be though that the OP is not parked in a parking spot, but rather a section of covered property belonging to the shop- in which case there is no driveway or guarenteed access.

Meanwhile, towing sounds like a great option, and if there are disputes, its the towing company that deals with it, the OP is more or less hassle free. Also, if pizza car is in a free-for-all spot, then why can't the OP just park there instead? It would effectively block access to his spot, and no one could park behind him.

Modern Man

acidlacedpenguin wrote: »

Modern Man wrote: »

A question- does your little parking area open up onto a public street, or onto someone else's private property?

The answer might make a pretty big difference. If the neighboring land is private, you may have no right to tow people for blocking your spot. I read your OP to mean that your spot opens onto a private parking lot. I'm obviously not an expert on UK laws, but I don't think you would have the right to tow people for blocking you, unless you have something like an easement for access.

I think part of his problem is that they're actually parking IN his spot, so where it opens to shouldn't matter (though again, only if he and/or his landlord have the legal right to the spot)

The parking in his spot is the easier problem- he probably has the right to have them towed or whatever else is allowed under UK law (assuming he has a legal right to the spot).

But the OP also mentioned that he had a problem with people blocking his spot, especially the pizza delivery guys. If those drivers are parking on private property, rather than illegally blocking a driveway's access to a public street, he may not have the right to do anything about it.

Conroy Bumpas

i tryed having a look on google maps so i could show you the lay out. but the carpark that has been built is a year old and thus not on google yet.


the old service road used to run along the back of the shops for deliverys. and each shop used to have a scrap bit of land walled off. for loading and parking.

then the town centre got redeveloped and almost all the shops got knocked down and where this sevice road is is now a pay and display car park.

so may space is on the shops land. and there is a strip of tarmac. between the carpark and where my space is. and this is wide enough to park and cars in. so the drives park there blocking me so they dont have to pay.

this strip of land has kinds been forgotten ownership wise. ill try to draw a bitt of a better digram.

but basicly its not my land to get people towed from. also im finding it hard to get info about towing here in the uk for anything other that brakedown services.

Conroy Bumpas

Conroy Bumpas

that a bit better . (is still shocking bad)

but the stip of land abover the flower bed and no parking zone. has kinda been forgotten ownership wise. ther are some fire exits behind shops abover the flower bed. i think it was supsed to go all the way back but the changed it when the bult it.

but anyhoo people park behing may car and allong behind the shops.

if they park in the super market they have to pay or on the no parking hatching they get a ticket

in the uk it seem there is not much towing more issuing parking fines and coz they are foren and probubly not leagaly in the contry they dont care

saltiness

Solution:

Darkewolfe

I kind of like saltiness's solution. If no one ever gets towed from there and there's no clear ownership of the land, just start parking where they can't block you.

Conroy Bumpas

theres a tiny problem with that... If i parked back a bit. I block the guy in the bay to the left of me.

VisionOfClarity

Have you called your landlord yet to ask him what's up?

Sarcastro

Sooooo pizza dude is blocking you both?

saltiness

Conroy Bumpas wrote: »

theres a tiny problem with that... If i parked back a bit. I block the guy in the bay to the left of me.

Okay, so surely there is a way that you can park where there is just enough room for your neighbor to get out but so that nobody can park a car behind you?

Zeon

From your drawing it looks like that strip of road is actually the driveway, so anyone parking there would be blocking emergency vehicles trying to get farther down the strip, and also anyone leaving. So its technically a driveway or a private road, either way, parking is not allowed.

Throw up the signs, call a tow truck whenever someone parks there. Problem solved. Seriously.

I dont like the idea of parking out there yourself, because its not a legal parking space.

Lindsay Lohan

I like the idea of trying two posts with a chain across them that you can open when you're going home to park. On the chain just put a "Do not block Driveway" sign. It's at least worth a shot before using a tow company - they really do tend to be some of the shadiest dirtbags.