I wish people would start buying wards when the other team has an Akali and Shaco and stop feeding them.
I wish they would severely alter the stealth mechanics in the game or something.
I was in a game with Twitch & Shaco, Twitch in my lane, and the first item he buys after backing? Oracle's. Buh-bye map awareness. Buh-bye stealth detection.
Most frustrating thing in the world.
And he ws a good Twitch, of course, which meant that Oracle's was next to useless against him. He's simply S&P from outside Oracle's detection radius.
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At least put "League of Legends" somewhere in the thread title. It would be good if people looking for a thread about League of Legends who aren't already familiar with this thread are able to find it.
I wish people would start buying wards when the other team has an Akali and Shaco and stop feeding them.
I wish they would severely alter the stealth mechanics in the game or something.
I was in a game with Twitch & Shaco, Twitch in my lane, and the first item he buys after backing? Oracle's. Buh-bye map awareness. Buh-bye stealth detection.
Most frustrating thing in the world.
And he ws a good Twitch, of course, which meant that Oracle's was next to useless against him. He's simply S&P from outside Oracle's detection radius.
This is why I play Shen. Because they get cocky and stealth. I simply use my best guess and taunt through where I think he is. Reveal him and jump on him w/ teammates. You have to out-think people like that. Ambushes are you best bet. Reveal ward in a bush w/ your team is usually win.
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uhm.
She's vanilla ranged DPS and her stuff scales off attack damage...
there is no interesting way to build her, afaik.
You can build her ap with lichbane.
It affects her ult, double up for the first bounce gets lichbane, bullet time and make it rain both scale with ap. Also impure shots gets bonus damage on the stack from ap. It can be made to work. Alo you can get super ults if you get some magic pen
I actually managed to have a good game as MF yesterday. I've been terrible with her, but I decided to farm as best I could and only use double up to harass when I was almost positive it would bounce to Ashe. That early gold advantage really helped.
Also I got some good ults off from a bush and I killed two people with a single double up.
I still can't get AP Ezreal to work. Maybe it just doesn't. Anyone had success with it recently?
Forget about strictly AP Ez. In my last game just now I discovered the item set of my dreams. It starts as AD Ez and transitions into full on hybrid.
I was mid vs vlad.
Being that he is vlad, a bastard, and allright spiteful guy I decided to go QEQWQRWWWW. First item was a chalice, that way I can just sit back and fire Q at minions from out of harassment range. W to damage vlad through minions if he advanced.
Second item was sheen. Then I work on bilgewater cutlass. After that work on finishing the gunblade. After the gunblade I finished off lichbane for the extra mr and damage. They weren't very tanky so I was able to delay whisper in favor of rageblade. Rageblade gets 3 stacks per landed mystic shot.
Everything from my auto attacks to my W and E were doing solid damage. Q hitting for over 600.
Punk butt!! You steals all my kills. DON'T LIE DON'T LIE
Yeah, but, sometimes, you don't want to pick a character, and you just want all responsibility for a game taken away from you so you go "Hey, X-Teammate, who should I play?"
Sometimes they go, "Amumu!" sometimes "Rammus!" Other times? They say, "Ryze"
This is why I play Shen. Because they get cocky and stealth. I simply use my best guess and taunt through where I think he is. Reveal him and jump on him w/ teammates. You have to out-think people like that. Ambushes are you best bet. Reveal ward in a bush w/ your team is usually win.
I almost always pick Nidalee for her Bushwhackers if there's a stealth presence, but I just picked Kat becuase 'HEY WHATS THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN?'
So last night I tried out Shen because I've heard a lot of great things about him. I played a couple of custom matches with bots (as I feel if I'm going to try a new champ, I better at least try and get an elementary understanding of their mechanics first). I do have to say I really like him, it helps that I've always loved "tanks" (Prot Pally in WoW, Black Orc in WAR, etc). He definately benefits from a huge amount of HP, since it increases his survivability and damage (through his passive), and he can always benefit from other defensive stats (armor, magic resist, HP regen). My main question, though, is how much is he affected by Ability Power? Only reason I ask is because AP can increase the damage of his Vorpal Blade (Q), and I think it adds to the amount of healing done by the lifetap component. It also appears that AP would increase the shield value of Feint (W), and I'm not sure if it increases the shield of his Ultimate. If he does benefit from AP, obviously it's a tertiary stat (at best) and you would want to avoid any AP item with mana / mana regen on it. But, isn't there an item that's HP and AP?
I do suppose, however, that most games won't last long enough to get an item like that after his major priority items, but it's nice to know whether or that helps him.
The damage part of Vorpal Blade as a .65 AP ratio, the healing part a .067, and the shield part has a .6 ratio for damage absorbed.
So, theoretically, not terrible ratios, but, bad enough to skip AP on Shen. You're looking at needing a ton of AP to get any decent amount of damage/healing/absorption out of his moves.
His ultimate as a +1 ratio though, so I guess you could give someone a shit ton of shield when you ult them.
'Hey look, it's Teemo. Q + E. Oh look, it's a dead Teemo.'
'Hey look, it's Mundo. Q + W. Oh look, it's a dead Mundo.'
'Hey look, it's the entire enemy team chasing our overextended Warwick through the jungle. R. Oh look, motherfucking Pentakill!.'
In fairness, they had the worst Akali. I was in a 2v1 against her & TF and she'd keep trying to harass me with her mark and eating double-ups in exchange. She died twice before switching lanes and then feeding Shaco.
The damage part of Vorpal Blade as a .65 AP ratio, the healing part a .067, and the shield part has a .6 ratio for damage absorbed.
So, theoretically, not terrible ratios, but, bad enough to skip AP on Shen. You're looking at needing a ton of AP to get any decent amount of damage/healing/absorption out of his moves.
His ultimate as a +1 ratio though, so I guess you could give someone a shit ton of shield when you ult them.
Rylai's could be worth a laugh with Vorpal Blade, and it gives you a decent amount of HP at the least
I've noticed an incredibly steep decline in Mordekaiser players.
Were his nerfs really that bad?
I dunno, I went 1v1 against a Mordekaiser at top as Sivir and just flat out killed him. I mean, he was kind of bad, but his shield isn't NEARLY as bad as it used to be. I can knock it off of him with a well placed BB, and then just auto attack him to death.
I've noticed an incredibly steep decline in Mordekaiser players.
Were his nerfs really that bad?
I dunno, I went 1v1 against a Mordekaiser at top as Sivir and just flat out killed him. I mean, he was kind of bad, but his shield isn't NEARLY as bad as it used to be. I can knock it off of him with a well placed BB, and then just auto attack him to death.
If he was pre-level 6 he was bad for fighting you if your creeps weren't around you to get hit by Siphon. Post level 6, Sivir is tasty and not bad for taking down towers as a ghost.
I still can't get AP Ezreal to work. Maybe it just doesn't. Anyone had success with it recently?
Forget about strictly AP Ez. In my last game just now I discovered the item set of my dreams. It starts as AD Ez and transitions into full on hybrid.
I was mid vs vlad.
Being that he is vlad, a bastard, and allright spiteful guy I decided to go QEQWQRWWWW. First item was a chalice, that way I can just sit back and fire Q at minions from out of harassment range. W to damage vlad through minions if he advanced.
Second item was sheen. Then I work on bilgewater cutlass. After that work on finishing the gunblade. After the gunblade I finished off lichbane for the extra mr and damage. They weren't very tanky so I was able to delay whisper in favor of rageblade. Rageblade gets 3 stacks per landed mystic shot.
Everything from my auto attacks to my W and E were doing solid damage. Q hitting for over 600.
Do you ever have mana problems with this build? I run out of mana constantly with Ez.
I still can't get AP Ezreal to work. Maybe it just doesn't. Anyone had success with it recently?
Forget about strictly AP Ez. In my last game just now I discovered the item set of my dreams. It starts as AD Ez and transitions into full on hybrid.
I was mid vs vlad.
Being that he is vlad, a bastard, and allright spiteful guy I decided to go QEQWQRWWWW. First item was a chalice, that way I can just sit back and fire Q at minions from out of harassment range. W to damage vlad through minions if he advanced.
Second item was sheen. Then I work on bilgewater cutlass. After that work on finishing the gunblade. After the gunblade I finished off lichbane for the extra mr and damage. They weren't very tanky so I was able to delay whisper in favor of rageblade. Rageblade gets 3 stacks per landed mystic shot.
Everything from my auto attacks to my W and E were doing solid damage. Q hitting for over 600.
Do you ever have mana problems with this build? I run out of mana constantly with Ez.
Talith said he gets a Chalice of Harmony, which would take care of most of his mana problems right there. If you're going AD ezreal, I love to grab a Manamune on him, which also completely negates his mana troubles.
Pacific, your endgame noble sacrifice which let me kill their Vlad will be remembered.
Mojo, in that game, I had to replace the chalice at the very end with that banshees veil. Because I fire my entire arsenal nonstop and I don't have manamune, I need blue buff or else I run dry.
I've noticed an incredibly steep decline in Mordekaiser players.
Were his nerfs really that bad?
I dunno, I went 1v1 against a Mordekaiser at top as Sivir and just flat out killed him. I mean, he was kind of bad, but his shield isn't NEARLY as bad as it used to be. I can knock it off of him with a well placed BB, and then just auto attack him to death.
If he was pre-level 6 he was bad for fighting you if your creeps weren't around you to get hit by Siphon. Post level 6, Sivir is tasty and not bad for taking down towers as a ghost.
Hehe, I spell shielded his ULT that game (multiple times). DON'T UNDERESTIMATE MY SPELL SHIELD SKILLS.
In fairness, they had the worst Akali. I was in a 2v1 against her & TF and she'd keep trying to harass me with her mark and eating double-ups in exchange. She died twice before switching lanes and then feeding Shaco.
So our ELO gap is at least 750...we should duo up sometime, then after the match point out our ELOs then adamantly insist to the other eight players we weren't duo-queuing.
It wouldn't even be hard, I'd have to say I was in MM for 10-12 minutes and you'd have to say your ELO is ~1150. BAM hilarity ensues.
Ender, how the hell have you played 120 games and are already level 30? I've got something like 80 more games under my belt and am still only level 24...
Also, how do you check your own ELO for normal games?
People still make baffling decisions regularly. Sometimes I'm one of them.
@shalmelo: You can't see your Elo in normal queue, you can only see it in ranked. On Ender's screen you are only seeing his win/loss record in Ranked FYI, I'm sure he's played many more games than that overall.
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Lining up Bullet Time is awesome.
I wasn't very good at landing Double Up so it harassed champs, but oh well - something to work on.
I wish they would severely alter the stealth mechanics in the game or something.
I was in a game with Twitch & Shaco, Twitch in my lane, and the first item he buys after backing? Oracle's. Buh-bye map awareness. Buh-bye stealth detection.
Most frustrating thing in the world.
And he ws a good Twitch, of course, which meant that Oracle's was next to useless against him. He's simply S&P from outside Oracle's detection radius.
This is why I play Shen. Because they get cocky and stealth. I simply use my best guess and taunt through where I think he is. Reveal him and jump on him w/ teammates. You have to out-think people like that. Ambushes are you best bet. Reveal ward in a bush w/ your team is usually win.
You can build her ap with lichbane.
It affects her ult, double up for the first bounce gets lichbane, bullet time and make it rain both scale with ap. Also impure shots gets bonus damage on the stack from ap. It can be made to work. Alo you can get super ults if you get some magic pen
Also I got some good ults off from a bush and I killed two people with a single double up.
"Hey Paladine, who should I play?"
"Play Ryze!"
"Why the fuck did you tell me to play Ryze"
Is how that game went.
Edit:
Also, that one guy said "Falo ae"
Dunno what any of it means, but falo=phallus in portugese.
Classy as fuck trash talk right there.
It's kinda like the first rule of fight club.
Only not.
I never did before, but I know I will tonight.
Punk butt!! You steals all my kills. DON'T LIE DON'T LIE
PS I had so much AD that game
Yeah, but, sometimes, you don't want to pick a character, and you just want all responsibility for a game taken away from you so you go "Hey, X-Teammate, who should I play?"
Sometimes they go, "Amumu!" sometimes "Rammus!" Other times? They say, "Ryze"
I almost always pick Nidalee for her Bushwhackers if there's a stealth presence, but I just picked Kat becuase 'HEY WHATS THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN?'
Now I know.
I do suppose, however, that most games won't last long enough to get an item like that after his major priority items, but it's nice to know whether or that helps him.
So, theoretically, not terrible ratios, but, bad enough to skip AP on Shen. You're looking at needing a ton of AP to get any decent amount of damage/healing/absorption out of his moves.
His ultimate as a +1 ratio though, so I guess you could give someone a shit ton of shield when you ult them.
'Hey look, it's Teemo. Q + E. Oh look, it's a dead Teemo.'
'Hey look, it's Mundo. Q + W. Oh look, it's a dead Mundo.'
'Hey look, it's the entire enemy team chasing our overextended Warwick through the jungle. R. Oh look, motherfucking Pentakill!.'
In fairness, they had the worst Akali. I was in a 2v1 against her & TF and she'd keep trying to harass me with her mark and eating double-ups in exchange. She died twice before switching lanes and then feeding Shaco.
You post that one, but not the one where we won.
After we got Baron I went back to buy the Negatron Cloak. Duld was all R U TROLLIN?! when I backed, but LOOK WHO DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO BUY?!
I just wish i could see her ground poison thing coming, the animation is really easy to miss.
Rylai's could be worth a laugh with Vorpal Blade, and it gives you a decent amount of HP at the least
I dunno, I went 1v1 against a Mordekaiser at top as Sivir and just flat out killed him. I mean, he was kind of bad, but his shield isn't NEARLY as bad as it used to be. I can knock it off of him with a well placed BB, and then just auto attack him to death.
If he was pre-level 6 he was bad for fighting you if your creeps weren't around you to get hit by Siphon. Post level 6, Sivir is tasty and not bad for taking down towers as a ghost.
Do you ever have mana problems with this build? I run out of mana constantly with Ez.
Talith said he gets a Chalice of Harmony, which would take care of most of his mana problems right there. If you're going AD ezreal, I love to grab a Manamune on him, which also completely negates his mana troubles.
Mojo, in that game, I had to replace the chalice at the very end with that banshees veil. Because I fire my entire arsenal nonstop and I don't have manamune, I need blue buff or else I run dry.
That means you Talith...specifically.
Hehe, I spell shielded his ULT that game (multiple times). DON'T UNDERESTIMATE MY SPELL SHIELD SKILLS.
So our ELO gap is at least 750...we should duo up sometime, then after the match point out our ELOs then adamantly insist to the other eight players we weren't duo-queuing.
It wouldn't even be hard, I'd have to say I was in MM for 10-12 minutes and you'd have to say your ELO is ~1150. BAM hilarity ensues.
I'll be online in 10 minutes.
In any event it's a late item for him.
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At least you knew what game the thread was about
Ender, how the hell have you played 120 games and are already level 30? I've got something like 80 more games under my belt and am still only level 24...
Also, how do you check your own ELO for normal games?
I really don't think she is!
People still make baffling decisions regularly. Sometimes I'm one of them.
@shalmelo: You can't see your Elo in normal queue, you can only see it in ranked. On Ender's screen you are only seeing his win/loss record in Ranked FYI, I'm sure he's played many more games than that overall.