Man what? If the enemy has warded dragon, you can aggro dragon, pull him back, and cause him to switch to kill the enemy ward? The fuck?
I need to do this now when I start jungling.
Yes, if I see the ward placement I always do this now. You have to kind of know the location though, it's not like you can sit there in the sight of everyone tanking dragon damage for 30 seconds while you run around like a headless chicken looking for wards.
But if you see them place it, it's a simple matter to have dragon kill the ward.
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so I did ranked again, evelynn got banned by MY team (I didn't think to mention that I wanted to play her) so I picked vlad instead and went 14/0/5 or some stupid shit
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I was level 16 when the next highest person on the map was level 12 I think
Well I got ganked at the start of the game since my team didnt watch me in jungle, then got yelled at for not doing better. Great...
1161 ELO FUCK YEAH! I should probably just quit playing this game, really seems pointless sometimes. The only way to get better is to find a way to coerce people not to be fucking idiots.
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edited December 2010
Is Shen and Rammus banned in every single ranked game? Just lost my third ranked game so 3 in a row and I had 3 leavers before a game started and each banned Rammus, Shen, Cho'Gath and someone else. Why Cho'Gath?
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Well I got ganked at the start of the game since my team didnt watch me in jungle, then got yelled at for not doing better. Great...
1161 ELO FUCK YEAH! I should probably just quit playing this game, really seems pointless sometimes. The only way to get better is to find a way to coerce people not to be fucking idiots.
Solo queue ranked just seems like a huge pile of rotting asses where everyone thinks they know absolutely everything and that anyone else who thinks other wise is a complete retard. How do people raise their elo in this shit?
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Well I got ganked at the start of the game since my team didnt watch me in jungle, then got yelled at for not doing better. Great...
1161 ELO FUCK YEAH! I should probably just quit playing this game, really seems pointless sometimes. The only way to get better is to find a way to coerce people not to be fucking idiots.
Solo queue ranked just seems like a huge pile of rotting asses where everyone thinks they know absolutely everything and that anyone else who thinks other wise is a complete retard. How do people raise their elo in this shit?
Well I got ganked at the start of the game since my team didnt watch me in jungle, then got yelled at for not doing better. Great...
1161 ELO FUCK YEAH! I should probably just quit playing this game, really seems pointless sometimes. The only way to get better is to find a way to coerce people not to be fucking idiots.
Solo queue ranked just seems like a huge pile of rotting asses where everyone thinks they know absolutely everything and that anyone else who thinks other wise is a complete retard. How do people raise their elo in this shit?
play seven jillion games
My strategy is to never play solo ranked unless I'm queuing with another. With the right hero choices it's easy to have a huge impact on the game.
Well I got ganked at the start of the game since my team didnt watch me in jungle, then got yelled at for not doing better. Great...
1161 ELO FUCK YEAH! I should probably just quit playing this game, really seems pointless sometimes. The only way to get better is to find a way to coerce people not to be fucking idiots.
Solo queue ranked just seems like a huge pile of rotting asses where everyone thinks they know absolutely everything and that anyone else who thinks other wise is a complete retard. How do people raise their elo in this shit?
play seven jillion games
My strategy is to never play solo ranked unless I'm queuing with another. With the right hero choices it's easy to have a huge impact on the game.
I really hope Riot removes duo queue from ranked mode.
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edited December 2010
Sweet, 1/3 in ranked solo now, won my first game as jungle Udyr, went 2/0/11. I couldn't get any early game kills
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Well I got ganked at the start of the game since my team didnt watch me in jungle, then got yelled at for not doing better. Great...
1161 ELO FUCK YEAH! I should probably just quit playing this game, really seems pointless sometimes. The only way to get better is to find a way to coerce people not to be fucking idiots.
Solo queue ranked just seems like a huge pile of rotting asses where everyone thinks they know absolutely everything and that anyone else who thinks other wise is a complete retard. How do people raise their elo in this shit?
play seven jillion games
My strategy is to never play solo ranked unless I'm queuing with another. With the right hero choices it's easy to have a huge impact on the game.
I really hope Riot removes duo queue from ranked mode.
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I always feel so bad for trolling amumu in the jungle.
He so sad
I get so very, very angry when my team goes to gank Amumu at blue and either a) lets themselves get seen so he leaves and then doesn't kill the blue anyway and/or b) doesn't have a watcher at our blue for when he goes for it.
I get triply annoyed when we have someone sitting at our blue, he decides on his own to leave and do something else, and then like 5 seconds later Amumu comes in and steals the blue.
Haha Oh Lord. I have never ever played DOTA or Tower Defense or any kind of thing before this and I'm beginning to see the appeal.
I'm playing as this electric ninja squirrel thing? Kennen? He seems kind of cool, but definitely doesn't do a lot of damage.
I am completely and utterly lost on equipment, the game is flying by so quickly trying to figure that out seems to be difficult indeed.
Kennen can do high amounts of damage and he is a pro harass champ in the lane.
When it comes to building items its best to learn a few core items that work on all champs of their type such as ranged damage, melee damage, caster, tank, etc. and build those core items and the rest of the build is based off of what you need.
Tanking is the easiest way to show this. Most tanks start with a Doran's Shield, Heart of Gold, Boots and then build the rest of the items based on what kind of damage the other team does. Mostly ability power damage? Stock up on magic resist. Mostly attack damage?
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Haha Oh Lord. I have never ever played DOTA or Tower Defense or any kind of thing before this and I'm beginning to see the appeal.
I'm playing as this electric ninja squirrel thing? Kennen? He seems kind of cool, but definitely doesn't do a lot of damage.
I am completely and utterly lost on equipment, the game is flying by so quickly trying to figure that out seems to be difficult indeed.
Just keep playing, you'll figure items out eventually. Doran's items (Doran's Ring for casters, Doran's Shield when you need to stay in lane longer or have an easily harassed champ, and Doran's Blade for ranged attackers) are good for your initial gold investment, and most every other item is a component in a recipe for something else.
Is Shen and Rammus banned in every single ranked game? Just lost my third ranked game so 3 in a row and I had 3 leavers before a game started and each banned Rammus, Shen, Cho'Gath and someone else. Why Cho'Gath?
Rammus, Pantheon, Sivir, Evelyn, Janna
If one of those is missing, then Shen, maybe Shaco
Seem to be the current flavour bans. Not sure why Cho'Gath over them, mind you, but he is a fairly solid tank.
Is Shen and Rammus banned in every single ranked game? Just lost my third ranked game so 3 in a row and I had 3 leavers before a game started and each banned Rammus, Shen, Cho'Gath and someone else. Why Cho'Gath?
Rammus, Pantheon, Sivir, Evelyn, Janna
If one of those is missing, then Shen, maybe Shaco
Seem to be the current flavour bans. Not sure why Cho'Gath over them, mind you, but he is a fairly solid tank.
Didn't Cho move up elementz teir list? That's probably why, he got a slight buff and I've definitely been seeing him a lot more.
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edited December 2010
I can't say I really understand banning Evelyn. Unlike Pantheon or Rammus, who are just plain strong, Eve requires a specific playstyle and can be countered by playing in a certain way.
Revive/Smite Eve in particular. Given everyone knows how the Revive trick works now, it's just a massive warning signal when you see her die to jungle.
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StragintDo Not GiftAlways DeclinesRegistered Userregular
edited December 2010
Yea, I've been seeing Cho'Gath a lot more lately and it really hasn't changed much. His abilities are still easy to dodge and he still dies relatively easy to harass in lane. Doesn't seem worth banning.
As to Evelynn, she can be the most annoying champ and now that she is a popular jungle champ she is a lot more dangerous. Yea, grabbing a pink ward will let you know she is there but doing something about her completely different. Her being able to jungle allows her to feed so I can understand her being banned though I regret banning her and not Tryndamere in my third ranked game. Fed Tryndamere steam rolls teams
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I can't say I really understand banning Evelyn. Unlike Pantheon or Rammus, who are just plain strong, Eve requires a specific playstyle and can be countered by playing in a certain way.
Revive/Smite Eve in particular. Given everyone knows how the Revive trick works now, it's just a massive warning signal when you see her die to jungle.
Agreed. Strangest sudden FotM ever. I mean can understand her getting a little stronger because of nerfs to other champions, but suddenly she goes from garbage tier everyone yells at you for picking her bad to top tier everyone yells if you don't ban awesome? I don't buy it.
Not that she was ever as bad as people thought, but she's still not a top tier, mustban champion.
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I can't say I really understand banning Evelyn. Unlike Pantheon or Rammus, who are just plain strong, Eve requires a specific playstyle and can be countered by playing in a certain way.
Revive/Smite Eve in particular. Given everyone knows how the Revive trick works now, it's just a massive warning signal when you see her die to jungle.
Agreed. Strangest sudden FotM ever. I mean can understand her getting a little stronger because of nerfs to other champions, but suddenly she goes from garbage tier everyone yells at you for picking her bad to top tier everyone yells if you don't ban awesome? I don't buy it.
Not that she was ever as bad as people thought, but she's still not a top tier, mustban champion.
I heard it has something to do with some Euro player getting top rank as Revive/Smite Evelynn and everyone riding his nuts
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Because one player being really good with a champion automatically means that champion is overpowered, I'm sure.
Sigh.
Also, anecdotally, I got in a game with a bunch of 1700s somehow a bit ago, and the enemy team firstpicked Eve (because she's so fantastic I guess). As lastpick I wound up in duo lane of course, so I just did my usual plan and backed every few minutes to place another pink ward.
Eve was too intimidated to even attempt ganking us. Our team won pretty easily.
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I think it's linked to the general drop in quality-of-play others have commented upon.
She's pubstomp. The worse the other players, the better she is.
There have been other favorable changes for her as well - reduction to solo lane exp, the ward nerf, and as you already mentioned the broad spectrum nerfs to non-Eve champs.
And like you said, she was never as bad as people made her out to be.
I think it's linked to the general drop in quality-of-play others have commented upon.
She's pubstomp. The worse the other players, the better she is.
There have been other favorable changes for her as well - reduction to solo lane exp, the ward nerf, and as you already mentioned the broad spectrum nerfs to non-Eve champs.
And like you said, she was never as bad as people made her out to be.
Agree with the limed. She thrives off of people's mistakes. Which I guess does make her a good solo queue champion since there are so many mistakes in solo queue, but y'know, she's still counterable if you know how.
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edited December 2010
She's not only a pubstomp champion, she's very viable at high elo.
And her counters are a gamble that often don't pay off.
Perhaps quality of play has lessened at high Elo as well. It certainly seems that way from watching TreeEskimo, Roku, etc play lately. A lot of rage at idiot mistakes going around.
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StragintDo Not GiftAlways DeclinesRegistered Userregular
edited December 2010
I can't really see her being played a high elo though, she doesn't seem like a good competitive pick. Hell, every game that I've had to face Evelynn went my way because I grabbed pink wards at the beginning and grabbed oracles mid/late game. She was very easy to pick off as soon as we caught sight of her and the team fight instantly turned into a 4v5 in our favor.
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Perhaps quality of play has lessened at high Elo as well. It certainly seems that way from watching TreeEskimo, Roku, etc play lately. A lot of rage at idiot mistakes going around.
Or perhaps the difference between low and high elo was never as large as you thought it was.
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Perhaps quality of play has lessened at high Elo as well. It certainly seems that way from watching TreeEskimo, Roku, etc play lately. A lot of rage at idiot mistakes going around.
Or perhaps the difference between low and high elo was never as large as you thought it was.
I'd love to smurf sometime to test my assumptions, although I don't in anyway feel I'm an 1800+ quality player. I know that many high Elo players have said when they smurf it's just absolutely ridiculous the kind of insanity they can pull off because the skill levels are so disparate.
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Perhaps quality of play has lessened at high Elo as well. It certainly seems that way from watching TreeEskimo, Roku, etc play lately. A lot of rage at idiot mistakes going around.
Or perhaps the difference between low and high elo was never as large as you thought it was.
I'd love to smurf sometime to test my assumptions, although I don't in anyway feel I'm an 1800+ quality player. I know that many high Elo players have said when they smurf it's just absolutely ridiculous the kind of insanity they can pull off because the skill levels are so disparate.
There is a huge difference between new and experienced players. Smurfing and stomping new players isn't saying much. I'm talking about elo amongst level 30's
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I just saw the damned strangest thing in an unranked game. The entire enemy team ran through our jungle and settled in the bushes between our top two towers. We spotted them out of sheer luck so it didn't immediately turn into a clusterfuck. But seriously, wtf? I've never seen anyone pull that before. Their premade had so many off the wall gank setups we were reacting the entire time and had no chance to go on the offense.
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Yes, if I see the ward placement I always do this now. You have to kind of know the location though, it's not like you can sit there in the sight of everyone tanking dragon damage for 30 seconds while you run around like a headless chicken looking for wards.
But if you see them place it, it's a simple matter to have dragon kill the ward.
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I was level 16 when the next highest person on the map was level 12 I think
He so sad
1161 ELO FUCK YEAH! I should probably just quit playing this game, really seems pointless sometimes. The only way to get better is to find a way to coerce people not to be fucking idiots.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
Solo queue ranked just seems like a huge pile of rotting asses where everyone thinks they know absolutely everything and that anyone else who thinks other wise is a complete retard. How do people raise their elo in this shit?
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
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dragon does aoe damage. he's just splashing on the ward.
I'm dead serious."
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My strategy is to never play solo ranked unless I'm queuing with another. With the right hero choices it's easy to have a huge impact on the game.
I really hope Riot removes duo queue from ranked mode.
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I get triply annoyed when we have someone sitting at our blue, he decides on his own to leave and do something else, and then like 5 seconds later Amumu comes in and steals the blue.
I'm playing as this electric ninja squirrel thing? Kennen? He seems kind of cool, but definitely doesn't do a lot of damage.
I am completely and utterly lost on equipment, the game is flying by so quickly trying to figure that out seems to be difficult indeed.
Kennen can do high amounts of damage and he is a pro harass champ in the lane.
When it comes to building items its best to learn a few core items that work on all champs of their type such as ranged damage, melee damage, caster, tank, etc. and build those core items and the rest of the build is based off of what you need.
Tanking is the easiest way to show this. Most tanks start with a Doran's Shield, Heart of Gold, Boots and then build the rest of the items based on what kind of damage the other team does. Mostly ability power damage? Stock up on magic resist. Mostly attack damage?
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Just keep playing, you'll figure items out eventually. Doran's items (Doran's Ring for casters, Doran's Shield when you need to stay in lane longer or have an easily harassed champ, and Doran's Blade for ranged attackers) are good for your initial gold investment, and most every other item is a component in a recipe for something else.
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Rammus, Pantheon, Sivir, Evelyn, Janna
If one of those is missing, then Shen, maybe Shaco
Seem to be the current flavour bans. Not sure why Cho'Gath over them, mind you, but he is a fairly solid tank.
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Didn't Cho move up elementz teir list? That's probably why, he got a slight buff and I've definitely been seeing him a lot more.
I'm dead serious."
Revive/Smite Eve in particular. Given everyone knows how the Revive trick works now, it's just a massive warning signal when you see her die to jungle.
As to Evelynn, she can be the most annoying champ and now that she is a popular jungle champ she is a lot more dangerous. Yea, grabbing a pink ward will let you know she is there but doing something about her completely different. Her being able to jungle allows her to feed so I can understand her being banned though I regret banning her and not Tryndamere in my third ranked game. Fed Tryndamere steam rolls teams
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
Agreed. Strangest sudden FotM ever. I mean can understand her getting a little stronger because of nerfs to other champions, but suddenly she goes from garbage tier everyone yells at you for picking her bad to top tier everyone yells if you don't ban awesome? I don't buy it.
Not that she was ever as bad as people thought, but she's still not a top tier, mustban champion.
I heard it has something to do with some Euro player getting top rank as Revive/Smite Evelynn and everyone riding his nuts
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
Sigh.
Also, anecdotally, I got in a game with a bunch of 1700s somehow a bit ago, and the enemy team firstpicked Eve (because she's so fantastic I guess). As lastpick I wound up in duo lane of course, so I just did my usual plan and backed every few minutes to place another pink ward.
Eve was too intimidated to even attempt ganking us. Our team won pretty easily.
She's pubstomp. The worse the other players, the better she is.
There have been other favorable changes for her as well - reduction to solo lane exp, the ward nerf, and as you already mentioned the broad spectrum nerfs to non-Eve champs.
And like you said, she was never as bad as people made her out to be.
Agree with the limed. She thrives off of people's mistakes. Which I guess does make her a good solo queue champion since there are so many mistakes in solo queue, but y'know, she's still counterable if you know how.
And her counters are a gamble that often don't pay off.
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I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
Or perhaps the difference between low and high elo was never as large as you thought it was.
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I guess he is 2/9 now
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I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
I'd love to smurf sometime to test my assumptions, although I don't in anyway feel I'm an 1800+ quality player. I know that many high Elo players have said when they smurf it's just absolutely ridiculous the kind of insanity they can pull off because the skill levels are so disparate.
There is a huge difference between new and experienced players. Smurfing and stomping new players isn't saying much. I'm talking about elo amongst level 30's
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