World of Illusion has a special place in my heart.
edit: oh wow, didn't notice that about NFS. Criterion deserve it.
As for GT5, it has definately been profitable for sony, but with the sales they've seen outside europe, sony has to be asking some difficult questions. For the insane budget GT5 had, they could have funded 3 or more "AAA" titles with much higher combined sales. I'd guess that with GT6, polyphony are going to start seeing some stricter oversight from sony.
I'm wondering how those sales stats are measured. Minecraft has sold over 1 million units now, and it never appears in those charts O_o:?: I assume that this are only sales of boxed games, right?
@fragglefart ...and yes, epic mickey is a great fun game with cool visuals!
Just Dance 2 was also heavily discounted for nearly the entire month of December and EVERY non-gamer parent with a kid had that under the tree this year.
Hell I think my sister bought 3 copies alone because it was like 30 bucks everywhere. One for her family, one for her sister-in-law's family, and another for some friends. It's crazy how huge that game is in the elementary school set.
Epic Mickey was a Disney release with a huge marketing budget that while, maybe not amazing, was not shovelware. Of course it was going to sell well.
You seem to be underestimating the sheer force behind the "3rd parties don't sell on wii". Marketing budget almost never factors into that argument when people bring it up.
I'm wondering how those sales stats are measured. Minecraft has sold over 1 million units now, and it never appears in those charts O_o:?: I assume that this are only sales of boxed games, right?
It says new physical retail only at the top of the chart. I'd guess there's not much verifiability other than Notch's word for something like Minecraft, or even Cataclysm.
It's crazy how huge that game is in the elementary school set.
Seriously, it is massive.
Yep, and it sold mostly on word of mouth (i count the non-enthusiast press in this).
The Wii as a platform is still mostly dire for third-parties, but certain content can seemingly sell quite well there. Most of them seem to be moving to Facebook and mobile these days though.
Hmm... three of the top 10 sold in 2010 came out in 2009 - NSMB Wii, Wii Fit Plus, and MW2. That's impressive.
From plufim's link:
For the second year in a row, U.S. video game sales posted a decline, down 5.7% to $18.6 billion in 2010 from $19.7 billion in 2009 and $21.4 billion in 2008, according to a report released Thursday by the NPD Group.
Ouchie.
Edit: Poster from GAF claiming that DS has surpassed PS2 in North America. Quite impressive if true, and well-deserved. Also, does anyone have NA sales stats on the PS2? I'm curious to see how the Wii is doing in comparison in terms of time after launch. I knew the Wii was ahead, but I'm curious if the gap is still widening or if the decline in Wii sales have caused that gap to close.
Edit 2: Also very impressive - 360's yearly sales.
Sales of Nintendo's Wii, however, suffered a 38% dive to just 2.36 million units in December, down from 3.81 million a year earlier. Sony's PS3 also declined, albeit less precipitously. It sold 1.21 million PS3s in December, down 11% from 1.36 million.
With the exception of the Xbox 360, declining console sales will put pressure on manufacturers to lower the price, particularly for the Wii, which sells for $199.99 and is rapidly losing steam, analysts said.
"The Nintendo Wii business looks increasingly like a gift purchase business, which means they will have to have a price cut in order to sustain it during non-gift-giving seasons," said John Taylor, managing director of Arcadia Investments.
Wow, that all seems like a bit of a leap. I remember when YoY% was just being used by Sony as a last desperate plea to show that they were in fact awesome pre-PS3 slim. It's a great statistic but I think it's getting a little overblown.
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This total consumer spend on games content in 2010 represent sales that are flat to down by as much as 1 percent when compared to 2009.
DS is still the god king.
"For the month of December, the Nintendo DS was the best-selling hardware system, achieving an install base of over 47 million units sold in the U.S., which now surpasses that of the PS2."
"The Kinect was the best-selling accessory item for the second month in a row, following its release in early November."
"For both the month of December and for the whole year, Point & Subscription cards grew the most in unit volume vs. 2009. This is a retail reflection of the growing importance of digitally delivered gaming content."
Any numbers for games yet?
Edit:
"The Nintendo Wii business looks increasingly like a gift purchase business, which means they will have to have a price cut in order to sustain it during non-gift-giving seasons," said John Taylor, managing director of Arcadia Investments.
IT ONLY OUTSOLD THE COMPETITION BY A FEW THOUSAND UNITS DESPITE LACK OF NEW 500 MILLION DOLLAR AD CAMPAIGN FOR A NEW ACCESSORY AND A NEW SLIMMER MODEL! DOOOOOOOOOOMED!
Edit: Four of the top ten SKUs were Wii exclusive and none were part of the Mario franchise.
It doesn't matter if you're winning Cous. You need to be winning by MORE than you were winning last time. Because otherwise, you're doomed, apparently.
Seriously, I am always amazed by analysts attempts to spin a win into a loss.
Huh, Mass Effect 2 didn't make it to the top 10 of 2010?
I'd guess it missed the top 10 by a factor of two at least.
Now that the NPD groups all SKUs together, you'd need a mega-hit for a single-platform game to make the annual top 10. While ME2 may be one of the best games of the year, it was far from being one of the best selling games of the year.
It doesn't matter if you're winning Cous. You need to be winning by MORE than you were winning last time. Because otherwise, you're doomed, apparently.
Seriously, I am always amazed by analysts attempts to spin a win into a loss.
Huh, Mass Effect 2 didn't make it to the top 10 of 2010?
I'd guess it missed the top 10 by a factor of two at least.
I dunno, I think it would be somewhere in the top 20.
What I meant was that the #10 game (NBA 2K11) probably sold twice as many copies as Mass Effect 2. But I'm starting to think I was wrong about that. Last we knew, ME2 sold what, around 1.5 million copies on the 360?
It doesn't matter if you're winning Cous. You need to be winning by MORE than you were winning last time. Because otherwise, you're doomed, apparently.
Seriously, I am always amazed by analysts attempts to spin a win into a loss.
You've also just summed up ConsoleWarZ.
ConsoleWarZ? Is Ubisoft doing a knock-off of that weird JRPG featuring the console mascots?
CODBLOPS is still going strong, though I'm a little surprised out outsold WoW, even considering the double console. Just Dance is an absolute beast. Epic Mickey did much better than I thought; maybe now people who say third parties can't sell well on Wii will knock it off. Though probably not really. I'll also point out that a certain person who predicted DKC wouldn't sell because he personally doesn't like the genre/price point was two months' worth of wrong.
360 got quite a bit of lift from Kinect, Sony very little from Move even though Move is allegedly selling. No Move titles anywhere near the top sellers either. Again: who is buying those things?
Remind me, what were some other December releases that didn't do well?
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I liked the one on the NES as well.
That said I was actually kind of doubting if the character appealed to the early generation compared to us older ones.
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edit: oh wow, didn't notice that about NFS. Criterion deserve it.
As for GT5, it has definately been profitable for sony, but with the sales they've seen outside europe, sony has to be asking some difficult questions. For the insane budget GT5 had, they could have funded 3 or more "AAA" titles with much higher combined sales. I'd guess that with GT6, polyphony are going to start seeing some stricter oversight from sony.
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Isn't it #2?
I'm just here to gloat, really.
It outsold the individual PS3 and 360 sales of BLOPS, but if you ad all BLOPS sales together it beats Just Dance.
#1 by skew. Otherwise known as the way these things are supposed to be formatted.
@fragglefart ...and yes, epic mickey is a great fun game with cool visuals!
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Hell I think my sister bought 3 copies alone because it was like 30 bucks everywhere. One for her family, one for her sister-in-law's family, and another for some friends. It's crazy how huge that game is in the elementary school set.
Fuck yeah!
Also, I wonder how similar Hot Pursuit is to Need for Speed 3 which had the same subtitle.
It's a big feat. Hence the reason Ubisoft was crowing about it.
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You seem to be underestimating the sheer force behind the "3rd parties don't sell on wii". Marketing budget almost never factors into that argument when people bring it up.
It is a cross between that and Burnout Takedown/Revenge.
Yep, and it sold mostly on word of mouth (i count the non-enthusiast press in this).
The Wii as a platform is still mostly dire for third-parties, but certain content can seemingly sell quite well there. Most of them seem to be moving to Facebook and mobile these days though.
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Wii owners love dancing and platforming. Third parties would do well to take notes on these things.
Wii - 2.36 million
360 - 1.86 million
PS3 - 1.21 million
Clearly Joystiq was being smart when they assumed 360 being second MUST have implied that PS3 was first.
From plufim's link:
Ouchie.
Edit: Poster from GAF claiming that DS has surpassed PS2 in North America. Quite impressive if true, and well-deserved. Also, does anyone have NA sales stats on the PS2? I'm curious to see how the Wii is doing in comparison in terms of time after launch. I knew the Wii was ahead, but I'm curious if the gap is still widening or if the decline in Wii sales have caused that gap to close.
Edit 2: Also very impressive - 360's yearly sales.
2006 3,893,839
2007 4,618,606
2008 4,735,400
2009 4,770,700
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Wow, that all seems like a bit of a leap. I remember when YoY% was just being used by Sony as a last desperate plea to show that they were in fact awesome pre-PS3 slim. It's a great statistic but I think it's getting a little overblown.
DS is still the god king.
Any numbers for games yet?
Edit: Nintendo could easily cut the price. Easter?
NDS - 8.56 million
WII - 7.07 million
360 - 6.76 million
PS3 - 4.33 million
Analysts still assume the Wii is still doomed, of course.
Apparently the 360 slim, the mid-year fire sale, and Kinect have been very good for sales.
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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-1130-ct-nintendo-20101130,0,2209702.story IT ONLY OUTSOLD THE COMPETITION BY A FEW THOUSAND UNITS DESPITE LACK OF NEW 500 MILLION DOLLAR AD CAMPAIGN FOR A NEW ACCESSORY AND A NEW SLIMMER MODEL! DOOOOOOOOOOMED!
Edit: Four of the top ten SKUs were Wii exclusive and none were part of the Mario franchise.
Seriously, I am always amazed by analysts attempts to spin a win into a loss.
I'd guess it missed the top 10 by a factor of two at least.
Now that the NPD groups all SKUs together, you'd need a mega-hit for a single-platform game to make the annual top 10. While ME2 may be one of the best games of the year, it was far from being one of the best selling games of the year.
I dunno, I think it would be somewhere in the top 20.
You've also just summed up ConsoleWarZ.
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What I meant was that the #10 game (NBA 2K11) probably sold twice as many copies as Mass Effect 2. But I'm starting to think I was wrong about that. Last we knew, ME2 sold what, around 1.5 million copies on the 360?
ConsoleWarZ? Is Ubisoft doing a knock-off of that weird JRPG featuring the console mascots?
The sheet has monthly NPD sales of PS2, Xbox, GC, Wii, PS3, and 360 from Nov/2001 through Dec/2009. No software, and no 2010 data.
If that's what you're looking for, tell me where to send it.
360 got quite a bit of lift from Kinect, Sony very little from Move even though Move is allegedly selling. No Move titles anywhere near the top sellers either. Again: who is buying those things?
Remind me, what were some other December releases that didn't do well?
Unless it involves Wario.
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