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  • FroThulhuFroThulhu Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Tamin wrote: »
    FroThulhu wrote: »
    I didn't feel let down by the main story of the game. The world was interesting, and there was cool sci-fi shit happening all the time. I guess I should feel bad for not having a decent PC when the first two games were released, but... I don't. I played tactics, it was fun, but I don't feel like I need to know anything further than the general theme to enjoy it. And I did! Probably because I wasn't obsessing about what didn't match with previous entries.

    My main problem with fallout 3 was how it was pretty/maybe kinda hard at first but then gets really damn easy depending on how you made your dude.

    Well, it's a bit earlier than my usual 3 month attempt, but I did just get a new video card. I guess I'll give FO3 another shot. Maybe I'll like it more this time.

    If you didn't like it, don't force yourself. Probably just not your cup o' tea, chumly.

    I have absolutely zero problems with a game being easy. My personal idea of fun is not to be frustrated and thwarted constantly. But I know a lot of people dig intensely difficult games.

    FroThulhu on
  • DaxonDaxon Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    FroThulhu wrote: »
    Tamin wrote: »
    FroThulhu wrote: »
    I didn't feel let down by the main story of the game. The world was interesting, and there was cool sci-fi shit happening all the time. I guess I should feel bad for not having a decent PC when the first two games were released, but... I don't. I played tactics, it was fun, but I don't feel like I need to know anything further than the general theme to enjoy it. And I did! Probably because I wasn't obsessing about what didn't match with previous entries.

    My main problem with fallout 3 was how it was pretty/maybe kinda hard at first but then gets really damn easy depending on how you made your dude.

    Well, it's a bit earlier than my usual 3 month attempt, but I did just get a new video card. I guess I'll give FO3 another shot. Maybe I'll like it more this time.

    If you didn't like it, don't force yourself. Probably just not your cup o' tea, chumly.

    I have absolutely zero problems with a game being easy. My personal idea of fun is not to be frustrated and thwarted constantly. But I know a lot of people dig intensely difficult games.

    Games are good when they offer difficulty to the point where you can, if you pay attention, get through a level/bit on your first try, and you only fail when you recognise you made a mistake.

    Not because of some arbitrary "these guys have five hundred million health and kill you in one hit" bullshit.

    Daxon on
  • TaminTamin Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    FroThulhu wrote: »
    Tamin wrote: »
    FroThulhu wrote: »
    I didn't feel let down by the main story of the game. The world was interesting, and there was cool sci-fi shit happening all the time. I guess I should feel bad for not having a decent PC when the first two games were released, but... I don't. I played tactics, it was fun, but I don't feel like I need to know anything further than the general theme to enjoy it. And I did! Probably because I wasn't obsessing about what didn't match with previous entries.

    My main problem with fallout 3 was how it was pretty/maybe kinda hard at first but then gets really damn easy depending on how you made your dude.

    Well, it's a bit earlier than my usual 3 month attempt, but I did just get a new video card. I guess I'll give FO3 another shot. Maybe I'll like it more this time.

    If you didn't like it, don't force yourself. Probably just not your cup o' tea, chumly.

    I have absolutely zero problems with a game being easy. My personal idea of fun is not to be frustrated and thwarted constantly. But I know a lot of people dig intensely difficult games.

    I'm not trying to force myself to like it. My usual frustrations with it are the bugs, followed closely by horrible framerate drops and other graphic-related things. So, if the 6850 can play the game better than my 8800 GTS, I'll probably enjoy it a great deal more.

    Tamin on
  • TaminTamin Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Daxon wrote: »
    Games are good when they offer difficulty to the point where you can, if you pay attention, get through a level/bit on your first try, and you only fail when you recognise you made a mistake.

    Not because of some arbitrary "these guys have five hundred million health and kill you in one hit" bullshit.

    As a corollary, modular difficulty is a Good Thing, and one of the reasons I love Super Metroid so much - yes, Ridley can kill me in 4 hits, and I can kill him if I play perfectly for 45 to 60 minutes ... but it's through my choices.

    The only other game with modular difficulty (that I can think of) is System Shock (1)

    Tamin on
  • FroThulhuFroThulhu Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Daxon wrote: »
    FroThulhu wrote: »
    Tamin wrote: »
    FroThulhu wrote: »
    I didn't feel let down by the main story of the game. The world was interesting, and there was cool sci-fi shit happening all the time. I guess I should feel bad for not having a decent PC when the first two games were released, but... I don't. I played tactics, it was fun, but I don't feel like I need to know anything further than the general theme to enjoy it. And I did! Probably because I wasn't obsessing about what didn't match with previous entries.

    My main problem with fallout 3 was how it was pretty/maybe kinda hard at first but then gets really damn easy depending on how you made your dude.

    Well, it's a bit earlier than my usual 3 month attempt, but I did just get a new video card. I guess I'll give FO3 another shot. Maybe I'll like it more this time.

    If you didn't like it, don't force yourself. Probably just not your cup o' tea, chumly.

    I have absolutely zero problems with a game being easy. My personal idea of fun is not to be frustrated and thwarted constantly. But I know a lot of people dig intensely difficult games.

    Games are good when they offer difficulty to the point where you can, if you pay attention, get through a level/bit on your first try, and you only fail when you recognise you made a mistake.

    Not because of some arbitrary "these guys have five hundred million health and kill you in one hit" bullshit.

    Or 'surprise, insta-kill trap that was completely undetectable!' Or when there are a million dudes in the area, with insane firing accuracy and there's nowhere for you to take cover. When puzzles are not only strange, but completely unintuitive.

    FroThulhu on
  • DaxonDaxon Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Tamin wrote: »
    Daxon wrote: »
    Games are good when they offer difficulty to the point where you can, if you pay attention, get through a level/bit on your first try, and you only fail when you recognise you made a mistake.

    Not because of some arbitrary "these guys have five hundred million health and kill you in one hit" bullshit.

    As a corollary, modular difficulty is a Good Thing, and one of the reasons I love Super Metroid so much - yes, Ridley can kill me in 4 hits, and I can kill him if I play perfectly for 45 to 60 minutes ... but it's through my choices.

    The only other game with modular difficulty (that I can think of) is System Shock (1)

    Wait, is this a boss you're meant to/have to kill to finish the game?

    Cause if so, that is pretty damn unacceptable to me. Playing a game, perfectly nonetheless, for 45 to 60 minutes on one damn guy is just meh. Especially if the encounter doesn't change at all and you're just whittling down his health.

    Daxon on
  • MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Has anyone watched Justified?

    I started watching it recently and its basically an excuse to watch Timothy Olyphant wear a cowboy hat and be a badass US marshall killing dudes.

    Yeah I'm watching it

    he is mega-hot.

    And the show's decent too.

    MrMister on
  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Playin' so much MNC today. So much.

    Quid on
  • FroThulhuFroThulhu Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Quid wrote: »
    Playin' so much MNC today. So much.

    On the seXBoxLive?

    FroThulhu on
  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Has anyone watched Justified?

    I started watching it recently and its basically an excuse to watch Timothy Olyphant wear a cowboy hat and be a badass US marshall killing dudes.

    i was deciding today to watch justified or fringe, i started with fringe today

    will watch justified eventually

    Shazkar Shadowstorm on
    poo
  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    FroThulhu wrote: »
    Quid wrote: »
    Playin' so much MNC today. So much.

    On the seXBoxLive?

    On PC.

    No one ever plays of the brobox anymore :(

    Quid on
  • MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    FroThulhu wrote: »
    I have absolutely zero problems with a game being easy. My personal idea of fun is not to be frustrated and thwarted constantly. But I know a lot of people dig intensely difficult games.

    Yeah, in general I am more and more looking for a fun experience--which usually entails not being so easy that none of my choices matter, but which also usually entails not being terribly hard either. I actually really dislike puzzle games and the various math-y strategy games, because they feel like I'm doing homework.

    MrMister on
  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited January 2011
    Welp. Bed time.

    Echo on
  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Daxon wrote: »
    Tamin wrote: »
    Daxon wrote: »
    Games are good when they offer difficulty to the point where you can, if you pay attention, get through a level/bit on your first try, and you only fail when you recognise you made a mistake.

    Not because of some arbitrary "these guys have five hundred million health and kill you in one hit" bullshit.

    As a corollary, modular difficulty is a Good Thing, and one of the reasons I love Super Metroid so much - yes, Ridley can kill me in 4 hits, and I can kill him if I play perfectly for 45 to 60 minutes ... but it's through my choices.

    The only other game with modular difficulty (that I can think of) is System Shock (1)

    Wait, is this a boss you're meant to/have to kill to finish the game?

    Cause if so, that is pretty damn unacceptable to me. Playing a game, perfectly nonetheless, for 45 to 60 minutes on one damn guy is just meh. Especially if the encounter doesn't change at all and you're just whittling down his health.

    It's a consequence of having a game as open as Super Metroid.

    You can go and take on the final boss more or less immediately on beginning the game, or you can choose from a range of other goals which, singly or cumulatively, will make the ultimate objective easier to accomplish.

    japan on
  • DaxonDaxon Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Ahahahahahaha now they're making weed-flapjacks on tv.

    Describing what they're doing. It's a stoner cooking programme!

    Daxon on
  • MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Timothy-Olyphant-and-Joelle-Carter-in-Justified.jpg

    he could be my sheriff any day of the week

    MrMister on
  • TaminTamin Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Daxon wrote: »
    Tamin wrote: »
    Daxon wrote: »
    Games are good when they offer difficulty to the point where you can, if you pay attention, get through a level/bit on your first try, and you only fail when you recognise you made a mistake.

    Not because of some arbitrary "these guys have five hundred million health and kill you in one hit" bullshit.

    As a corollary, modular difficulty is a Good Thing, and one of the reasons I love Super Metroid so much - yes, Ridley can kill me in 4 hits, and I can kill him if I play perfectly for 45 to 60 minutes ... but it's through my choices.

    The only other game with modular difficulty (that I can think of) is System Shock (1)

    Wait, is this a boss you're meant to/have to kill to finish the game?

    Cause if so, that is pretty damn unacceptable to me. Playing a game, perfectly nonetheless, for 45 to 60 minutes on one damn guy is just meh. Especially if the encounter doesn't change at all and you're just whittling down his health.

    If you play the game normally (read: your first sentence), Ridley is a piece of cake. You'd have somewhere in the neighborhood of 1300 health, his attacks would barely scratch you, and your supply of super missiles would end the fight in roughly 5-6 minutes.

    Modular difficulty (read: sequence breaking) has allowed me to reach this boss with 99 health, a minimal number of upgrades, and a few minor rules governing my behavior in the fight. While the fight, as I said, only lasts 6 or so minutes if you've been playing properly, there is a limit on how fast the charge beam... well, charges. And then hits him.

    My math on the subject is rusty, and requires a lot of assumptions. Suffice it to say, an hour is a very conservative estimate.

    The encounter changes, a little. At about 80 hits, he starts a new pattern of attacks; it may be that it is literally impossible to beat him with this set-up.

    Tamin on
  • FroThulhuFroThulhu Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Quid wrote: »
    FroThulhu wrote: »
    Quid wrote: »
    Playin' so much MNC today. So much.

    On the seXBoxLive?

    On PC.

    No one ever plays of the brobox anymore :(

    I do. I am the brobox player.
    MrMister wrote: »
    FroThulhu wrote: »
    I have absolutely zero problems with a game being easy. My personal idea of fun is not to be frustrated and thwarted constantly. But I know a lot of people dig intensely difficult games.

    Yeah, in general I am more and more looking for a fun experience--which usually entails not being so easy that none of my choices matter, but which also usually entails not being terribly hard either. I actually really dislike puzzle games and the various math-y strategy games, because they feel like I'm doing homework.

    Basically this. Also, there are far more games that seem to require a strat. guide than people think there are. The RE games that I played certainly did. One of my buddies is playing DeadSpace(because I am teh vaj), and there's some nonsense in there, too. People complain about linearity, but at least I know where the fuck I'm supposed to go/talk to/kill.

    BTW, I died maybe twice on a normal playthrough of Half-Life2, and that was my first go at it.

    FroThulhu on
  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I think game developers are wary of modular difficulty because it's a freaking nightmare to balance.

    Also it drives completionists up the wall.

    japan on
  • Look Out it's Sabs!Look Out it's Sabs! Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    MrMister wrote: »
    Has anyone watched Justified?

    I started watching it recently and its basically an excuse to watch Timothy Olyphant wear a cowboy hat and be a badass US marshall killing dudes.

    Yeah I'm watching it

    he is mega-hot.

    And the show's decent too.

    I am only like 4 episodes in, do they become more centered around like a major plot or all they mostly all one episode cases with like a lil centrality of a plot that goes on through them?

    Look Out it's Sabs! on
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  • Look Out it's Sabs!Look Out it's Sabs! Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    MrMister wrote: »
    Timothy-Olyphant-and-Joelle-Carter-in-Justified.jpg

    he could be my sheriff any day of the week

    aww you are making him blush

    timothy-olyphant.jpg

    Look Out it's Sabs! on
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    3DS: 2852-6809-9411
  • FroThulhuFroThulhu Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Olyphantastic

    I'm a fan.

    FroThulhu on
  • AriviaArivia I Like A Challenge Earth-1Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I can't think of anything in Dead Space that required a strategy guide. Anything at all.

    Arivia on
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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    So my friend - the one who was roofied last night - is now being stalked by the asshole who probably roofied her. Hopefully the cops will show up and throw him in jail.

    Drez on
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  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    i have no idea where this bottle of parrot bay came from.

    DasUberEdward on
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  • MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    He is so cute!

    Also, played the drug dealer in Go.

    Tonight's anthem is:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_t56jJOcNk&feature=BF&playnext=1&list=QL&index=1

    MrMister on
  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Fro, you feel like working up a character sheet?

    Captain Carrot on
  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    goddamnit I have that annoyingly cute and catch song from the end of juno stuck in my head

    Here is the church and here is the steeple
    We sure are cute for two ugly people
    :whistle:

    Tav on
  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2011
    oh yeah

    Nerdgasmic on
  • DaxonDaxon Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Facebook irony:

    [My friend] likes that urge you get to write "No one gives a shit" on someone's status.

    Yup.

    Daxon on
  • FroThulhuFroThulhu Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Fro, you feel like working up a character sheet?

    Dude, I'm sorry, but I really don't think I shoud be involved in this game.

    I've actually got a serious hangup about spreadsheets. There's actually kind of a story there, but suffice to say I don't think I can be relied on to not be a pain in the ass in this particular game. Consider it an open slot for somebody else.

    I'm sorry to flak out, broseph; I really should've bought all the requisite stuff a long time ago :(

    FroThulhu on
  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2011
    man, I ate too much

    Nerdgasmic on
  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    MrMister wrote: »
    He is so cute!

    Also, played the drug dealer in Go.

    Tonight's anthem is:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_t56jJOcNk&feature=BF&playnext=1&list=QL&index=1

    but that was last night's anthem

    Elldren on
    fuck gendered marketing
  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Spreadsheets? It's D&D, and this is not going to be a hack and slash game. What spreadsheets are involved?

    Captain Carrot on
  • DaxonDaxon Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    This How Drugs Work thing is frustrating.

    It just talks about "the receptor" or "the chemical". THEY HAVE NAMES, TELL ME WHAT THEY AAAAAAAARRRE!

    Daxon on
  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Spreadsheets? It's D&D, and this is not going to be a hack and slash game. What spreadsheets are involved?

    Is this some other D&D game or that M&M game?

    because if it's the latter spreadsheets are definitely involved

    Elldren on
    fuck gendered marketing
  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Elldren wrote: »
    Spreadsheets? It's D&D, and this is not going to be a hack and slash game. What spreadsheets are involved?

    Is this some other D&D game or that M&M game?

    because if it's the latter spreadsheets are definitely involved

    Other D&D game. D20 modern. In a campaign focusing on conversations.

    Captain Carrot on
  • FroThulhuFroThulhu Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Spreadsheets? It's D&D, and this is not going to be a hack and slash game. What spreadsheets are involved?

    Just the character-making process. Not having any of the D&D rulebooks, and having to use that online excel-based character generator. I just noticed this computer doesn't even have Excel installed on it.

    Trust me, I feel like a douche.

    EDIT: Like... I shouldn't even have asked to play. But I imagined there'd be a more managable char. generator online, or something.

    FroThulhu on
  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    You don't need the rulebooks. D20 Modern is available on the net for free. And I'm sure there are other character generators out there; you could even do it by hand. But if that's the way you feel, so it goes.

    Captain Carrot on
  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Hosting a party tonight

    It's gonna be awesome bros

    Eddy on
    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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