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I find out by this Friday if I get an internship with an architecture firm in Manhattan (office is in Gramercy) and that puts me in the market for a sublet for the next 6 months or so. My max monthly rent budget is about $1200. I'm 21, male, probably looking for roommates in that same range.
Any tips? What neighborhoods should I focus on? For the most part I've looked in the UES, UWS, Village, and a few places in SoHo that pop up on craigslist, with some Brooklyn mixed in. I don't have a base of operations in the city (moving from Alabama), so another potential problem is that I might not be able to visit beforehand, I'd just have to move in. Is that possible, or would you recommend finding something really temporary (hotel, hostel, etc) to look for a longer-term place in? Is there anywhere besides craigslist that can give me better results?
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Those are pretty expensive areas, but sublets are wierd so they may be in your range.
Check out sublet.com. Personally I wouldnt move into a joint sight unseen, but that's just me. You could probably couch surf for a weekend without getting murdered. Or, ask people on the forum you use the most. A PAer might put you up for the night.
Edit: Oh and Craigslist is a giant fuckoff waste of time for NYC real estate. It's 90% scams, broker lies, or potential serial killers.
Parts of Hoboken are really nice, and oddly enough the PATH is faster to like Penn Station than the subway is from uptown.
yeah, most of my friends who got jobs in manhattan after graduating ended up in hoboken
it has a pretty large young professional population. You would also be spending less and/or have a larger living space whereas in most parts of manhattan you'd be paying 1k+/mo for a closet
NJ resident thirding the "live in Jersey and commute" option. I live near but not in Hoboken, and it'd be my first choice to move to if I ever took a job in the city.
That said, there are tax implications from residing in NJ and working in NY -- you pay both states' income taxes as well as federal.
Most of my friends who worked in the city lived in either Brooklyn or Hoboken. Having visited all of them, I really like both areas.
Christ, you're in Alabama? Not exactly right next door, eh? The best way to find a place in NYC is to find a neighborhood you like and walk around looking for a "For Rent' sign.
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When it comes to Brooklyn, where should I look? Is this map a relatively accurate portrait of what neighborhoods are safe? I'm not trying to raise kids or anything, but I'd like somewhere relatively safe but still young and artsy.
The main complication is having to come from so far away. Do most people think I should try to crash somewhere and look around first, or has anyone else ever just "made the leap" and had it work out? Obviously I'd look at pictures first, but is it likely that the pictures may be hiding something?
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Re: Brooklyn, my friends that I stayed with for a week lived in Ditmas Park. It did seem far, but NYC is pretty big. Lots of things are pretty far. I mean, don't expect to ever go home for lunch or anything.
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NJ resident thirding the "live in Jersey and commute" option. I live near but not in Hoboken, and it'd be my first choice to move to if I ever took a job in the city.
That said, there are tax implications from residing in NJ and working in NY -- you pay both states' income taxes as well as federal.
I lived in Hoboken and Jersey City and recommend both (especially Hoboken).
As for taxes, you only pay income taxes where you live. NY has a commuter tax, but IIRC you get a credit towards your NJ taxes for the amount paid.
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I work in NYC and live in New Jersey (Town of West New York in NJ specifically), and I recommend that option as well. I just actually finished doing an apt hunt and landed a nice 1BR place in a great building for about $820 a month. NYC, particularly the Manhattan areas you are looking at would cost you double what you are willing to pay if you are really lucky. I just put up with a 15 min commute bus ride to the Port Authority (central manhattan). Hoboken is also a great area if you want to look there as well, with a PATH station into the city.
I would avoid Craigslist, I tried using them in my apt search and it was a very poor experience. A number of run-arounds, with nothing to show for it except a burning hatred for all mankind. I recommend just using a newspaper or calling any "For Rent" signs you see. Its how I ended up with my place.
NJ resident thirding the "live in Jersey and commute" option. I live near but not in Hoboken, and it'd be my first choice to move to if I ever took a job in the city.
That said, there are tax implications from residing in NJ and working in NY -- you pay both states' income taxes as well as federal.
I lived in Hoboken and Jersey City and recommend both (especially Hoboken).
As for taxes, you only pay income taxes where you live. NY has a commuter tax, but IIRC you get a credit towards your NJ taxes for the amount paid.
Really? I've obviously never done it, but have always heard the "taxes for both" thing from people who have. Maybe the commuter tax is what they were referring to.
Regardless, yeah I always forget to throw Jersey City in as an option -- but only if you find something in the waterfront area. And at that point, costs are probably comparable to Hoboken, and I'd personally rather live in Hoboken.
Regardless, yeah I always forget to throw Jersey City in as an option -- but only if you find something in the waterfront area. And at that point, costs are probably comparable to Hoboken, and I'd personally rather live in Hoboken.
There are a number of neighborhoods away from the river in Jersey City that have gotten nice since I left in 2002. But it's more hit-or-miss than being in the newer buildings on the Hudson. I do agree with you that Hoboken is a better choice, though. Especially if you're young and single
Hoboken reminds me of what I imagine New York was like back in the old days.
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chiming in to say if you are searching for an apartment/sublet in Jersey City you want to be looking at downtown or waterfront ONLY.
If you are in walking distance of a park or the waterfront, you're good, but A LOT of listings for apartments in JC are for The Heights, which should be avoided like the plague.
I live in downtown JC and pay 800/month for a private one-bedroom; most shares in the Newport area would be in your price range and there are a ton of students there so lots of shares and temp sublets.
PATH from Pavonia Newport goes virtually straight to West Soho. I work in west Soho and my commute time is about 30-45 minutes including the walk to and from the PATH. (2 10-minute walks and a variable dependent on how far away the train is when I get to the station)
Re: Brooklyn, my friends that I stayed with for a week lived in Ditmas Park. It did seem far, but NYC is pretty big. Lots of things are pretty far. I mean, don't expect to ever go home for lunch or anything.
Ha, I live in Ditmas Park...
Hoboken is nice, but I'd go for Jersey City, slightly quicker commute, just as nice (as long as you don't get a place near the journal sq stop), and cheaper.
Brooklyn is a better option though. For one, if you lived in Jersey, you'd have to pay for a PATH card to get you back and forth from NYC plus a NYC Metro Card. Also, it can be a pain to get back from the city if you're out after the PATH stops running regularly, whereas the subway runs all night. Finally, there's just more going on in Brooklyn than either Jersey City or Hoboken (I say this as a current Brooklyn, and former Jersey City resident).
i live near the atlantic avenue station (easy to find on google maps) which is very convenient to anywhere in manhattan, as it has many subway lines (which is good for getting back).
also it's not boring and lame like astoria (eh, some people like it) and jersey city, no offense to my buddy tapeslinger.
lots more going on, lots of restaurants and bars, concerts, events.
i had a similar budget, ideally aiming for less. i was also looking just to rent a room and not sign a year lease, ideally. did this in august. relied almost entirely on craigslist (best place to look if you're just looking for a room in someone's apartment).
i hunted throughout some of lower manhattan and lots of area in brooklyn, sent out tons of e-mails and looked at lots of apartments. you can find lots of postings.
neighborhoods that are good in brooklyn, imho:
williamsburg, greenpoint, fort greene, north park slope, prospect heights, cobble hill, boerum hill, clinton hill.
these are all good and safe too for the most part, and you can find things within your budget easily (and not have to live too far from manhattan).
i looked at apartments in all these neighborhoods, right now i am paying $900 to live with 2 other people. takes me 20 minutes to get to my job in lower west manhattan.
if you want more detailed info, pm me or something.
edit: and it's a 6 month internship, and he's coming to nyc from far away so he'd probably wanna be in manhattan or brooklyn, the taxes aren't significant enough in that case to live in jeeeeeeersey
I see how it is shaz, we wine you, dine you, and take you to the best damn pancake joint in the greater metropolitan area ... which is not in flippin Brooklyn... :P hehehe
I can vouch for the general cool-factor of living in Brooklyn but I think I'm old enough where I don't miss it anymore. (I am soooo ooooold )
Certain parts of the BK are mega gentrified, but it's a nice place to live for a few months
Honestly though, my commute costs about half of what it would cost if I was coming in from Brooklyn, but that's because I walk about 8 blocks from the PATH and don't need to transfer to MTA transit to get anywhere. YMMV (literally)
neighborhoods that are good in brooklyn, imho:
williamsburg, greenpoint, fort greene, north park slope, prospect heights, cobble hill, boerum hill, clinton hill.
You forgot dumbo and brooklyn heights (which is probably my favorite)
neighborhoods that are good in brooklyn, imho:
williamsburg, greenpoint, fort greene, north park slope, prospect heights, cobble hill, boerum hill, clinton hill.
You forgot dumbo and brooklyn heights (which is probably my favorite)
Dumbo rapid-expanded in late '05 and '06...
a loft share out there ought to be cheap (?) and it's closer to Manhattan than most of Manhattan is.
I used to work on the corner of Front and Main, that was a great little neighborhood back then but it's been years since I've done anything but drive past.
First stay away from craigslist for roomies. Unless you want to end up a sex slave. Yeah - alarmist and over the top, but it just happened, right here.
I add another vote to the "live in NJ and commute crowd". If you're looking for Trendy, do Hoboken or Weehawken. If you want something a little quieter (and close to a random Medieval Times!) I suggest looking up Wallington, NJ.
Very polish, very friendly, quiet. Trains run from the nearby Rutherford station into Penn Station NYC and there are multiple bus lines into Port Authority.
If you DO end up in the city somewhere - be aware that a car is more likely than not a liability. Parking here is...an adventure.
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Sublets in NYC and Hudson County NJ are more of a standard practice on craigslist than they are in other parts of the country. I found all of my roommate situations through there when I was looking for such.
That said, don't agree to meet anyone who seems sketchy, and anything that looks too good to be true definitely has a catch, etc etc
I live in the UES and like it. You can find something in your price range with a roommate here definitely. However, living elsewhere would definitely be cheaper. I know a few people who live in Astoria, Queens, and they like it a lot. It also has the Bohemian Society Beer Garden, which is amazing. I'd probably live in Astoria if I weren't splitting rent with my fiancee. We were actually considering moving there until she got a promotion, so Manhattan we stay.
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Check out sublet.com. Personally I wouldnt move into a joint sight unseen, but that's just me. You could probably couch surf for a weekend without getting murdered. Or, ask people on the forum you use the most. A PAer might put you up for the night.
Edit: Oh and Craigslist is a giant fuckoff waste of time for NYC real estate. It's 90% scams, broker lies, or potential serial killers.
yeah, most of my friends who got jobs in manhattan after graduating ended up in hoboken
it has a pretty large young professional population. You would also be spending less and/or have a larger living space whereas in most parts of manhattan you'd be paying 1k+/mo for a closet
That said, there are tax implications from residing in NJ and working in NY -- you pay both states' income taxes as well as federal.
Christ, you're in Alabama? Not exactly right next door, eh? The best way to find a place in NYC is to find a neighborhood you like and walk around looking for a "For Rent' sign.
When it comes to Brooklyn, where should I look? Is this map a relatively accurate portrait of what neighborhoods are safe? I'm not trying to raise kids or anything, but I'd like somewhere relatively safe but still young and artsy.
The main complication is having to come from so far away. Do most people think I should try to crash somewhere and look around first, or has anyone else ever just "made the leap" and had it work out? Obviously I'd look at pictures first, but is it likely that the pictures may be hiding something?
As for taxes, you only pay income taxes where you live. NY has a commuter tax, but IIRC you get a credit towards your NJ taxes for the amount paid.
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I would avoid Craigslist, I tried using them in my apt search and it was a very poor experience. A number of run-arounds, with nothing to show for it except a burning hatred for all mankind. I recommend just using a newspaper or calling any "For Rent" signs you see. Its how I ended up with my place.
Really? I've obviously never done it, but have always heard the "taxes for both" thing from people who have. Maybe the commuter tax is what they were referring to.
Regardless, yeah I always forget to throw Jersey City in as an option -- but only if you find something in the waterfront area. And at that point, costs are probably comparable to Hoboken, and I'd personally rather live in Hoboken.
Hoboken reminds me of what I imagine New York was like back in the old days.
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If you are in walking distance of a park or the waterfront, you're good, but A LOT of listings for apartments in JC are for The Heights, which should be avoided like the plague.
I live in downtown JC and pay 800/month for a private one-bedroom; most shares in the Newport area would be in your price range and there are a ton of students there so lots of shares and temp sublets.
PATH from Pavonia Newport goes virtually straight to West Soho. I work in west Soho and my commute time is about 30-45 minutes including the walk to and from the PATH. (2 10-minute walks and a variable dependent on how far away the train is when I get to the station)
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Ha, I live in Ditmas Park...
Hoboken is nice, but I'd go for Jersey City, slightly quicker commute, just as nice (as long as you don't get a place near the journal sq stop), and cheaper.
Brooklyn is a better option though. For one, if you lived in Jersey, you'd have to pay for a PATH card to get you back and forth from NYC plus a NYC Metro Card. Also, it can be a pain to get back from the city if you're out after the PATH stops running regularly, whereas the subway runs all night. Finally, there's just more going on in Brooklyn than either Jersey City or Hoboken (I say this as a current Brooklyn, and former Jersey City resident).
i live near the atlantic avenue station (easy to find on google maps) which is very convenient to anywhere in manhattan, as it has many subway lines (which is good for getting back).
also it's not boring and lame like astoria (eh, some people like it) and jersey city, no offense to my buddy tapeslinger.
lots more going on, lots of restaurants and bars, concerts, events.
i had a similar budget, ideally aiming for less. i was also looking just to rent a room and not sign a year lease, ideally. did this in august. relied almost entirely on craigslist (best place to look if you're just looking for a room in someone's apartment).
i hunted throughout some of lower manhattan and lots of area in brooklyn, sent out tons of e-mails and looked at lots of apartments. you can find lots of postings.
neighborhoods that are good in brooklyn, imho:
williamsburg, greenpoint, fort greene, north park slope, prospect heights, cobble hill, boerum hill, clinton hill.
these are all good and safe too for the most part, and you can find things within your budget easily (and not have to live too far from manhattan).
i looked at apartments in all these neighborhoods, right now i am paying $900 to live with 2 other people. takes me 20 minutes to get to my job in lower west manhattan.
if you want more detailed info, pm me or something.
edit: and it's a 6 month internship, and he's coming to nyc from far away so he'd probably wanna be in manhattan or brooklyn, the taxes aren't significant enough in that case to live in jeeeeeeersey
I can vouch for the general cool-factor of living in Brooklyn but I think I'm old enough where I don't miss it anymore. (I am soooo ooooold )
Certain parts of the BK are mega gentrified, but it's a nice place to live for a few months
Honestly though, my commute costs about half of what it would cost if I was coming in from Brooklyn, but that's because I walk about 8 blocks from the PATH and don't need to transfer to MTA transit to get anywhere. YMMV (literally)
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You forgot dumbo and brooklyn heights (which is probably my favorite)
Dumbo rapid-expanded in late '05 and '06...
a loft share out there ought to be cheap (?) and it's closer to Manhattan than most of Manhattan is.
I used to work on the corner of Front and Main, that was a great little neighborhood back then but it's been years since I've done anything but drive past.
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I add another vote to the "live in NJ and commute crowd". If you're looking for Trendy, do Hoboken or Weehawken. If you want something a little quieter (and close to a random Medieval Times!) I suggest looking up Wallington, NJ.
Very polish, very friendly, quiet. Trains run from the nearby Rutherford station into Penn Station NYC and there are multiple bus lines into Port Authority.
If you DO end up in the city somewhere - be aware that a car is more likely than not a liability. Parking here is...an adventure.
lots of my friends, the ones who weren't signing leases with friends, found roommates via craigslist too
almost anyone posting for sublets will post on craigslist
That said, don't agree to meet anyone who seems sketchy, and anything that looks too good to be true definitely has a catch, etc etc
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west harlem/wash heights aint bad either
i'm still partial to brooklyn though