Yeah, $7.50 seems about the right price for Mafia II.
Well, if you can tolerate some of the annoyances with the plot, and go in expecting a very linear narrative game instead of a GTA-style sandboxer.
this is a terrible terrible post
mafia 2 was a great game that got absolutely massacred for no good reason. it was well worth the full price i paid for it.
I thought most of the griping was because people were expecting an open world GTA game, except with mobbsters, rather than a linear game that happened to have a large map you could drive around?
After not playing it for awhile due to getting to a point where I literally cannot do anything but die because my computer chokes on the 25+ enemies it throws at me at once, I try to uninstall it.
and it's literally installing the uninstaller. I now have Darksiders icons on my desktop, it's installing DirectX...
This is just stupid.
EDIT: NO I WOULD NOT LIKE TO GO TO ADOBE'S WEBPAGE TO INSTALL ADOBE READER SO I CAN READ THE COMIC.
I WOULD LIKE TO UNINSTALL THE GAME.
EDIT2:
Thank you for installing the installer! How helpful!
EDIT3: So it DID uninstall the game, Steam just installed the installer to be contrary. Now I have to uninstall the installer which hopefully does not reinstall the game, because current evidence shows...
A=Game installation
B=Installer installation
A=~B
EDIT4: Luckily uninstalling the Darksiders installer did not reinstall the game. That would have been very, VERY annoying.
The "uninstaller" removes the soundtrack and comic, deleting steam's local files gets rid of the actual game.
Yeah, $7.50 seems about the right price for Mafia II.
Well, if you can tolerate some of the annoyances with the plot, and go in expecting a very linear narrative game instead of a GTA-style sandboxer.
this is a terrible terrible post
mafia 2 was a great game that got absolutely massacred for no good reason. it was well worth the full price i paid for it.
I thought most of the griping was because people were expecting an open world GTA game, except with mobbsters, rather than a linear game that happened to have a large map you were forced to drive around for ten minutes before every fucking mission?
For some strange reason, I decided to check out VGCats for the first time in approximately forever. After reading through an incredibly long and mostly bland comic, I got to the final panel and it actually made it seem worth it. I have no idea how old this is, but if it hasn't been in previous threads, this may need to go into the OP.
The "uninstaller" removes the soundtrack and comic, deleting steam's local files gets rid of the actual game.
It's pretty messed up.
Yes but you see, removing local files installed the installer
which I then got to uninstall.
EDIT: The installer also extracted the soundtrack and comic, which I also got to remove. I think. I saw the icons on my desktop, and after uninstalling the installer they disappeared. I'm going to have to examine this further, make sure the extra crap's actually gone.
I'm really sorry, but I forget who it was that gifted me Hitman Blood Money during the holiday madness. I've finally started it and lololololol... thanks again.
I'm playing on the 2nd highest difficulty, I beat the tutorial but mission 1 is hard. I've figured out how to kill with the wire effectively, which has been a big help... I need to learn how to escape this map though next.
^ This if you play JRPGs. Especially if you have a spare controller.
I was looking at this. What's it like?
How was this not answered yet?
Have you played Dragon Warrior / Dragon Quest IV?
You know Torneko's quest? How he wants to set up shop as a successful merchant?
Recettear is Torneko's Quest: The Game: The Awesoming.
You take on the role of a young girl (Recette) whose father mysteriously disappeared, leaving behind a rather large debt. The fairy in charge of collecting the debt (Tear) offers you an alternative: turn your lovely peasant home into an item shop and pay off the debt with your profits.
You can buy items from a local wholesaler (who has cheap, normal stuff), or from an importer (who has more expensive, more varied goods). You can ally with local heros, who can venture into dungeons in a sort-of Zelda- / Diablo-esque manner, equipped with loot that they've bought from you, and then you get to keep everything new they find if they survive the trip.
The better you perform as a merchant, the better items you get access to, the more you can decorate your shop, etc.
There's an alchemy system, where you turn base ingredients into new weapons and armor and trinkets that you can sell to your adventurer friends to make them better while dungeoning.
Recettear is awesome: it is fun, well-written, cute without being maudlin, and a good gaming experience besides.
Hobos will come to steal your cuteness. Little girls are the worst scum on the planet.
SpaceDrake, on these forums, is one of the guys behind the English translation. He's good people.
A quick word of advice: in the Tutorial, Tear teaches you how to maximize your profit on a particular sale. This is, in the end, bad advice. Instead, you want to maximize the number of times you successfully buy or sell an item on the first try for the bonus Merchant Experience Points (TM; whatever they're called) and customer relationship values.
After living in my new place for two months I finally got my PC hooked up and got back on Steam. I was console exclusive for a while and this feels like coming home. I missed gaming on my PC.
Is Magicka fixed yet? I remember hearing it was super broken when it came out. And are people playing it?
Mafia 2 is a good game. It has several problems, but it is actually fairly different, very atmospheric and has a lot of personality. I paid full price for it, and do not regret it. At this price it's a very good deal.
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All creature will die and all the things will be broken. That's the law of samurai.
I hemmed and hawed and read a lot of different opinions before I decided I got Mafia 2. Ultimately the conclusion I reached was that I wanted to play it but that I wasn't prepared to pay full price.
From what I can synthesize from all the different views I've read and my experience putting a few hours into the game and Let's Play videos of it so far, it's a good game that breaks your heart to think how downright great it could have been.
It looks beautiful (or at least the city and environments are gorgeous, and the characters are perfectly solid), a true work of art. It has a good story, if you understand that it's sort of a "genre film" of a game, an intentional pastiche of elements of the Sicilian mob mythos. The city does a good job of serving as a backdrop for the cinematic story experience. It has some very nice action set-pieces. Criticisms that the open world is empty or bland are in some cases off the mark because people were expecting GTA: Godfather Edition and that's not what this game ever tried to be.
On the other hand, there was clearly a ton of content that was planned, promised, and in some cases even partially implemented that was cut out, whether to use as DLC or just for the sake of getting the game out the door or even maybe (as some nefarious rumors suggest) so those ideas could be used in higher profile titles. Bits and pieces of some of this stuff is still scattered in the game's files, taunting us. It's depressing to think how much better the game could have been if the original vision had been fully implemented. Furthermore, while it's true that Mafia II was never supposed to be a GTAlike open world game with side missions and sandbox gameplay...honestly, how awesome would a GTA: Godfather Edition type of game set in this beautiful, lovingly detailed city have been? As it is you'll get through the story in, say, 12-15 hours and then what? Start another playthrough just to find any anachronistic Playboys you missed?
Basically from everything I can tell Mafia II isn't a bad game, it has real positives the developers deserve credit for, and if you're a fan of the genre like I am (the type of person who recognized Roger's extended quote from Miller's Crossing in American Dad before it was explained) you'll probably have fun with it. I'm certainly enjoying it so far. It's just a damn sight less than the game it could have been.
Like I said, I absorbed as much info as I could before making up mind whether to get the game, so I came in understanding and accepting its limitations. If you can do the same and get a good deal (the current Steam sale for $7.50 is a very nice price), then go for it. Like I said, I'm not very far into it, so maybe my opinion will change one way or the other in a few more hours of gameplay, but I doubt it. I feel like I've got a pretty good handle on what the game has to offer and what it doesn't.
The "uninstaller" removes the soundtrack and comic, deleting steam's local files gets rid of the actual game.
It's pretty messed up.
Yes but you see, removing local files installed the installer
which I then got to uninstall.
EDIT: The installer also extracted the soundtrack and comic, which I also got to remove. I think. I saw the icons on my desktop, and after uninstalling the installer they disappeared. I'm going to have to examine this further, make sure the extra crap's actually gone.
The extra content (Soundtrack and Comic) get installed to a THQ folder in the Program Files directory. Check there to see if it has been removed.
Yeah, $7.50 seems about the right price for Mafia II.
Well, if you can tolerate some of the annoyances with the plot, and go in expecting a very linear narrative game instead of a GTA-style sandboxer.
this is a terrible terrible post
mafia 2 was a great game that got absolutely massacred for no good reason. it was well worth the full price i paid for it.
Well, uh, sure thing, I guess.
I paid $12.50 for it during the last Steam sale and felt a bit underwhelmed, although I'm glad I got to play it. At $7.50 it's hit "if you're even remotely curious, give it a shot" territory.
But you know, Mafia II is a very, very linear game. The plot also relies on a bit too many "Okay, your character now has to do something amazingly dumb simply because your idiot friend tells you to" contrivances, especially towards the end, which makes the emotional impact of the ending less resonant. Since, you know, I had no say in the matter.
Edit: To balance out that harshness, the atmosphere, design, and attention to detail in Mafia II is stunning. Part of the reason I noticed the flaws and the relentless linearity of Mafia II is that the game world felt quite real.
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RoshinMy backlog can be seen from spaceSwedenRegistered Userregular
I'm seeing "ValveTestApp42915" in my games list ready to be installed. What is this? I'm scared.
I've heard of other people seeing it. Didn't seem to do any harm.
Or good.
Try and find out what it is. I am really curious.
"Go on. Take the candy from the creepy guy with the van. I'm sure he's harmless."
Well, I couldn't resist trying to install it, but nothing happened. It went through the "You're about to install..." process, all the way to the finish, but didn't actually do anything. Nothing I could see, anyway. Gabe and his henchmen are probably watching me as I type this, though.
Henchman 1: Masster! He still hasn't bought Mafia 2! Henchman 2: It's on sale and yet he resists! He buys all sorts of shit all the time, but not this! The Newell: Hmm, troubling! Activate the Mind Control App he foolishly installed! Me: Must... buy games on Steam...
I'm seeing "ValveTestApp42915" in my games list ready to be installed. What is this? I'm scared.
I've heard of other people seeing it. Didn't seem to do any harm.
Or good.
Try and find out what it is. I am really curious.
"Go on. Take the candy from the creepy guy with the van. I'm sure he's harmless."
Well, I couldn't resist trying to install it, but nothing happened. It went through the "You're about to install..." process, all the way to the finish, but didn't actually do anything. Nothing I could see, anyway. Gabe and his henchmen are probably watching me as I type this, though.
It's software to remote activate the webcam on your desk so the Newell can watch you sleep.
I'm seeing "ValveTestApp42915" in my games list ready to be installed. What is this? I'm scared.
I've heard of other people seeing it. Didn't seem to do any harm.
Or good.
Try and find out what it is. I am really curious.
"Go on. Take the candy from the creepy guy with the van. I'm sure he's harmless."
Well, I couldn't resist trying to install it, but nothing happened. It went through the "You're about to install..." process, all the way to the finish, but didn't actually do anything. Nothing I could see, anyway. Gabe and his henchmen are probably watching me as I type this, though.
It's software to remote activate the webcam on your desk so the Newell can watch you sleep.
The Newell wonders if you knew that you look very pretty when you sleep.
oh no the game is too linear!! THE WORLD IS ENDING
it's still a great linear experience.
This is the problem with GTA. It introduced gamers to the idea that linear = bad. It isn't as simple as that, granted games like killzone are a showcase for why absolute linearity is bad but some of the best games I've ever played have been pretty linear.
It just depends on the game, sometimes a free world waters down the experience too much for me.
I loved every single moment of the time I spent with Mafia 2. It felt like I got to star in a totally awesome mob movie. The characters were fantastic, the world was believable, and everything just felt right to me. Some of the stuff you get to do in the missions are things I have never seen before in a game.
Story spoilers
Burying the body from the trunk, fending off a rape attack in the prison showers, getting doused in the meat processing plant sewers, etc.
I fell so in love with the game that I never wanted it to end. After I beat it, I ended up watching the Godfather trilogy, Goodfellas, and the entire run of the Sopranos.
The only negative to me was that it felt kind of short. It took me about 13 hours or so to beat the story.
There's also a really cool mod for it called Free Ride that lets you choose any of the eras/weather, gives you all the weapons, cars, outfits, and recruitable homies and makes it very free roam sandboxy. The mod does have a problem with doing weird things to your auto save if it's during a chapter, but that's easily remedied by just restarting the chapter (or waiting to install it after you complete the game.)
oh no the game is too linear!! THE WORLD IS ENDING
it's still a great linear experience.
This is the problem with GTA. It introduced gamers to the idea that linear = bad. It isn't as simple as that, granted games like killzone are a showcase for why absolute linearity is bad but some of the best games I've ever played have been pretty linear.
It just depends on the game, sometimes a free world waters down the experience too much for me.
Linear gameplay isn't bad.
Me realising it is linear gameplay midgame IS bad. I should never realise I am walking through tunnel after tunnel, or be blocked from progression by a 1ft block. I should have the illusion that I am navigating a fully functional living breathing world, just not choosing to go down that sidepath.
oh no the game is too linear!! THE WORLD IS ENDING
it's still a great linear experience.
Man, I shouldn't even bother with nuance with you, eh?
No, it's a flawed, uneven, and ultimately mediocre linear experience.
The fact that it's linear doesn't make it bad. It makes it linear. Hence, when describing the game to people who, for whatever reason, might expect a GTA sandbox, I don't know why it's tantrum-inducing to point out that fact.
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HardtargetThere Are Four LightsVancouverRegistered Userregular
edited March 2011
you must have played some other Mafia 2 cause the one I played had amazing missions that were incredibly cinematic and fun mixed in with some slightly annoying driving that wasn't really a big deal cause it only took 5 minutes here and there.
1 AUD = 1.00840 USD
Feeling sorta let down by steam. Our dollar is worth more, and we still get charged twice the price.
Damn, even next door in NZ it's $7.50. Still you can't blame steam, it's been said before publishers set the price not steam. Blame them/the Australian government.
all this mafia II talk has me salivating over the game
but i just cannot in good faith even think about purchasing it
i'm in the middle of like 4 games already, and i've got a backlog list full of superheavyweight hitters
thankfully, by the time i AM ready to buy it it'll be this price again or lower :P
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SteevLWhat can I do for you?Registered Userregular
edited March 2011
For what it's worth, Amazon has decided to compete with Steam's sale and are matching the price on Mafia II as a PC download. If I remember correctly, it can be registered on Steam.
For what it's worth, Amazon has decided to compete with Steam's sale and are matching the price on Mafia II as a PC download. If I remember correctly, it can be registered on Steam.
It can definitely be registered on Steam. DigitalSyn bought it for me for Christmas off Amazon and just gave me the reg code, which I then activated on Steam. :^:
For what it's worth, Amazon has decided to compete with Steam's sale and are matching the price on Mafia II as a PC download. If I remember correctly, it can be registered on Steam.
If they're only matching the price then there's no incentive. Just skip the middle man and get it from steam. :P
Hello Steam thread, long time no see. I finally got a second hard drive (yanked it out of a derelict and useless machine I have), and it is now a dedicated Steam Drive. In fact, I have named it "Steam Drive".
It is 250 gigs, and I am currently re-downloading my entire Steam Library (hoping a majority of it fits) onto it.
I am sooo happy.
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HardtargetThere Are Four LightsVancouverRegistered Userregular
edited March 2011
the RPS review of Mafia 2 is attrocious and caused a pretty big backlash when it went out. those were fun days.
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I've heard of other people seeing it. Didn't seem to do any harm.
Or good.
Try and find out what it is. I am really curious.
Why I fear the ocean.
I thought most of the griping was because people were expecting an open world GTA game, except with mobbsters, rather than a linear game that happened to have a large map you could drive around?
The "uninstaller" removes the soundtrack and comic, deleting steam's local files gets rid of the actual game.
It's pretty messed up.
Fixed. Other than that, the game was awesome.
Yes but you see, removing local files installed the installer
which I then got to uninstall.
EDIT: The installer also extracted the soundtrack and comic, which I also got to remove. I think. I saw the icons on my desktop, and after uninstalling the installer they disappeared. I'm going to have to examine this further, make sure the extra crap's actually gone.
I'm playing on the 2nd highest difficulty, I beat the tutorial but mission 1 is hard. I've figured out how to kill with the wire effectively, which has been a big help... I need to learn how to escape this map though next.
How was this not answered yet?
Have you played Dragon Warrior / Dragon Quest IV?
You know Torneko's quest? How he wants to set up shop as a successful merchant?
Recettear is Torneko's Quest: The Game: The Awesoming.
You take on the role of a young girl (Recette) whose father mysteriously disappeared, leaving behind a rather large debt. The fairy in charge of collecting the debt (Tear) offers you an alternative: turn your lovely peasant home into an item shop and pay off the debt with your profits.
You can buy items from a local wholesaler (who has cheap, normal stuff), or from an importer (who has more expensive, more varied goods). You can ally with local heros, who can venture into dungeons in a sort-of Zelda- / Diablo-esque manner, equipped with loot that they've bought from you, and then you get to keep everything new they find if they survive the trip.
The better you perform as a merchant, the better items you get access to, the more you can decorate your shop, etc.
There's an alchemy system, where you turn base ingredients into new weapons and armor and trinkets that you can sell to your adventurer friends to make them better while dungeoning.
Recettear is awesome: it is fun, well-written, cute without being maudlin, and a good gaming experience besides.
Hobos will come to steal your cuteness. Little girls are the worst scum on the planet.
SpaceDrake, on these forums, is one of the guys behind the English translation. He's good people.
A quick word of advice: in the Tutorial, Tear teaches you how to maximize your profit on a particular sale. This is, in the end, bad advice. Instead, you want to maximize the number of times you successfully buy or sell an item on the first try for the bonus Merchant Experience Points (TM; whatever they're called) and customer relationship values.
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
Is Magicka fixed yet? I remember hearing it was super broken when it came out. And are people playing it?
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From what I can synthesize from all the different views I've read and my experience putting a few hours into the game and Let's Play videos of it so far, it's a good game that breaks your heart to think how downright great it could have been.
It looks beautiful (or at least the city and environments are gorgeous, and the characters are perfectly solid), a true work of art. It has a good story, if you understand that it's sort of a "genre film" of a game, an intentional pastiche of elements of the Sicilian mob mythos. The city does a good job of serving as a backdrop for the cinematic story experience. It has some very nice action set-pieces. Criticisms that the open world is empty or bland are in some cases off the mark because people were expecting GTA: Godfather Edition and that's not what this game ever tried to be.
On the other hand, there was clearly a ton of content that was planned, promised, and in some cases even partially implemented that was cut out, whether to use as DLC or just for the sake of getting the game out the door or even maybe (as some nefarious rumors suggest) so those ideas could be used in higher profile titles. Bits and pieces of some of this stuff is still scattered in the game's files, taunting us. It's depressing to think how much better the game could have been if the original vision had been fully implemented. Furthermore, while it's true that Mafia II was never supposed to be a GTAlike open world game with side missions and sandbox gameplay...honestly, how awesome would a GTA: Godfather Edition type of game set in this beautiful, lovingly detailed city have been? As it is you'll get through the story in, say, 12-15 hours and then what? Start another playthrough just to find any anachronistic Playboys you missed?
Basically from everything I can tell Mafia II isn't a bad game, it has real positives the developers deserve credit for, and if you're a fan of the genre like I am (the type of person who recognized Roger's extended quote from Miller's Crossing in American Dad before it was explained) you'll probably have fun with it. I'm certainly enjoying it so far. It's just a damn sight less than the game it could have been.
Like I said, I absorbed as much info as I could before making up mind whether to get the game, so I came in understanding and accepting its limitations. If you can do the same and get a good deal (the current Steam sale for $7.50 is a very nice price), then go for it. Like I said, I'm not very far into it, so maybe my opinion will change one way or the other in a few more hours of gameplay, but I doubt it. I feel like I've got a pretty good handle on what the game has to offer and what it doesn't.
The extra content (Soundtrack and Comic) get installed to a THQ folder in the Program Files directory. Check there to see if it has been removed.
Well, uh, sure thing, I guess.
I paid $12.50 for it during the last Steam sale and felt a bit underwhelmed, although I'm glad I got to play it. At $7.50 it's hit "if you're even remotely curious, give it a shot" territory.
But you know, Mafia II is a very, very linear game. The plot also relies on a bit too many "Okay, your character now has to do something amazingly dumb simply because your idiot friend tells you to" contrivances, especially towards the end, which makes the emotional impact of the ending less resonant. Since, you know, I had no say in the matter.
Edit: To balance out that harshness, the atmosphere, design, and attention to detail in Mafia II is stunning. Part of the reason I noticed the flaws and the relentless linearity of Mafia II is that the game world felt quite real.
"Go on. Take the candy from the creepy guy with the van. I'm sure he's harmless."
Well, I couldn't resist trying to install it, but nothing happened. It went through the "You're about to install..." process, all the way to the finish, but didn't actually do anything. Nothing I could see, anyway. Gabe and his henchmen are probably watching me as I type this, though.
Henchman 1: Masster! He still hasn't bought Mafia 2!
Henchman 2: It's on sale and yet he resists! He buys all sorts of shit all the time, but not this!
The Newell: Hmm, troubling! Activate the Mind Control App he foolishly installed!
Me: Must... buy games on Steam...
Yeah, I'm drawing a strip of that.
It's software to remote activate the webcam on your desk so the Newell can watch you sleep.
The Newell wonders if you knew that you look very pretty when you sleep.
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it's still a great linear experience.
This is the problem with GTA. It introduced gamers to the idea that linear = bad. It isn't as simple as that, granted games like killzone are a showcase for why absolute linearity is bad but some of the best games I've ever played have been pretty linear.
It just depends on the game, sometimes a free world waters down the experience too much for me.
Such savings.
Story spoilers
I fell so in love with the game that I never wanted it to end. After I beat it, I ended up watching the Godfather trilogy, Goodfellas, and the entire run of the Sopranos.
The only negative to me was that it felt kind of short. It took me about 13 hours or so to beat the story.
There's also a really cool mod for it called Free Ride that lets you choose any of the eras/weather, gives you all the weapons, cars, outfits, and recruitable homies and makes it very free roam sandboxy. The mod does have a problem with doing weird things to your auto save if it's during a chapter, but that's easily remedied by just restarting the chapter (or waiting to install it after you complete the game.)
For $7.50 it's a complete steal.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/idolninja
Linear gameplay isn't bad.
Me realising it is linear gameplay midgame IS bad. I should never realise I am walking through tunnel after tunnel, or be blocked from progression by a 1ft block. I should have the illusion that I am navigating a fully functional living breathing world, just not choosing to go down that sidepath.
I never played mafia2 so no comment on that.
Man, I shouldn't even bother with nuance with you, eh?
No, it's a flawed, uneven, and ultimately mediocre linear experience.
The fact that it's linear doesn't make it bad. It makes it linear. Hence, when describing the game to people who, for whatever reason, might expect a GTA sandbox, I don't know why it's tantrum-inducing to point out that fact.
Feeling sorta let down by steam. Our dollar is worth more, and we still get charged twice the price.
Damn, even next door in NZ it's $7.50. Still you can't blame steam, it's been said before publishers set the price not steam. Blame them/the Australian government.
The day they tell major publishers what prices they can and cannot sell at is the day they leave for other DD services.
but i just cannot in good faith even think about purchasing it
i'm in the middle of like 4 games already, and i've got a backlog list full of superheavyweight hitters
thankfully, by the time i AM ready to buy it it'll be this price again or lower :P
Registered just for the Mass Effect threads | Steam: click ^^^ | Origin: curlyhairedboy
My Backloggery
It can definitely be registered on Steam. DigitalSyn bought it for me for Christmas off Amazon and just gave me the reg code, which I then activated on Steam. :^:
http://steamcommunity.com/id/idolninja
If they're only matching the price then there's no incentive. Just skip the middle man and get it from steam. :P
I'm in completly the same boat. I want it but I can't in good concience buy another game with all of the below to get through first.
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This pleases me greatly.
Steam: Chagrin LoL: Bonhomie
Of course, as Gillen points out, disagreeable reviews ARE a sign of a maturing art form...
Why I fear the ocean.
Awesome Image.
If one day, Gabe goes bodybuilding and got himself a six pack.
It would be interesting to be the community uproar.
It is 250 gigs, and I am currently re-downloading my entire Steam Library (hoping a majority of it fits) onto it.
I am sooo happy.
it's shocking too cause usually RPS is fantastic.