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Bought a tub of caffeine...

FagatronFagatron Registered User regular
edited March 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
No way to measure it. Anybody have suggestions for making sure I don't ingest more than 200mg without a scale? Is a pinch too much? I have no idea what a milligram even looks like.

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  • ChillyWillyChillyWilly Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Purchase something like this and keep it around.

    Handy for cooking and measuring out your drugs. :D

    EDIT: Upon further research, you apparently still need to know weight and such for my suggestion to be useful.

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_milligrams_equal_1_tsp

    So maybe a scale? Perhaps a pharmacist could measure it out for you?

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  • Alchemist449Alchemist449 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I don't know that without a reliable scale or at least some kind of measuring instrument that you're going to be able to know, and since you're dealing with such small amounts, it might be safer just to buy something. Don't wanna hurt yourself, dude.

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  • FagatronFagatron Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Well, I added a dash to my juice, so far I am not dying. Will report back with results.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Digital scales are pretty cheap, could get a decent enough one for ~$20

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  • FagatronFagatron Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Yeah, I bought one off Amazon just now. Cost more than the caffeine did. :(

    Anyway, dash seems about right. Feels like a cup or two of coffee.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Stop doing this

    Stop doing anything like this.

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  • FagatronFagatron Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Stop doing this

    Stop doing anything like this.

    The part without the scale of the ingestion of caffeine anhydrous in general?

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  • bwaniebwanie Posting into the void Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    200 milligrams is one fifth of a gram

    good luck eyeballing that.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Fagatron wrote: »
    Stop doing this

    Stop doing anything like this.

    The part without the scale of the ingestion of caffeine anhydrous in general?

    This whole idea is silly, is what he's saying.

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  • FagatronFagatron Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Yes but the savings buying Caffeine Anhydrous+Vitamin B Complex+Pineapple Juice over the occasional energy drink are FANTASTIC!

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Man if you were serious about that, I would loudly exclaim that was the most retarded thing I've ever read or heard.

    To me it's either:

    1) You're jones-ing for a pick me up drink but want a little more option than "Coffee" and "liquid corn."

    A) You have a rudimentary knowledge of chemistry and thought this would be fun/cool

    0x1) Wat

    I mean... honestly you should drink water and maybe take an OTC caffeine pill. Last thing I want to read on reddit is "nerd ODs on self administered caffeine powder."

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  • FagatronFagatron Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Buying an equivalent amount of NoDoz would cost $330. This cost $20, plus $10 for the B-Complex which won't last nearly as long (100 pills vs. 2000 servings of the Caffeine).

    Buying an equivalent amount of energy drinks would cost even more.

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    edited March 2011
    Fagatron wrote: »
    Yeah, I bought one off Amazon just now.

    Did you get one that's accurate to a milligram?

    Or at least 10 mg? (+/- 10mg on a 200mg dose of caffeine isn't a big deal.)

    Most digital scales sold in drug stores and smoke shops and such are only accurate to 500 or 100 mg, which is not remotely accurate enough to measure out 200mg of anything.

    Also keep in mind that caffeine in powdered form is going to absorb water, which is going to throw off your weighing, so you want to keep it in a glass airtight container if at all possible.

    BTW, there's no evidence that B vitamins have any energy-boosting effects at all.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    If you want energy boosting, eat better and exercise. Don't self medicate with VitB, caffiene, guanine, etc.

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  • FagatronFagatron Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Feral wrote: »
    Fagatron wrote: »
    Yeah, I bought one off Amazon just now.

    Did you get one that's accurate to a milligram?

    Or at least 10 mg? (+/- 10mg on a 200mg dose of caffeine isn't a big deal.)

    Most digital scales sold in drug stores and smoke shops and such are only accurate to 500 or 100 mg, which is not remotely accurate enough to measure out 200mg of anything.

    Also keep in mind that caffeine in powdered form is going to absorb water, which is going to throw off your weighing, so you want to keep it in a glass airtight container if at all possible.

    BTW, there's no evidence that B vitamins have any energy-boosting effects at all.

    Yeah, I bought one that is accurate to the mg and comes with weights to calibrate it. Some of the reviews said it was off by 5-6 mg sometimes but that isn't a huge deal for what I'm using it for.

    I didn't know that about the B vitamins, I just swallowed up the marketing without checking up on it. I do some sporting activities that take a toll on my body so I think I'll take them until they're gone and see if I heal up any faster with them than without them. They're at well under the toxicity level for their various component vitamins so no worries there.

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Echoing the "stop this immediately" group. We had a guy in our dorms OD on this when his roommate took a big scoop like he would protein. Not worth the risk to you or others.

    Yes, it may be cheaper, but honestly? It's not at all worth the risk and you're being a goose if you think otherwise.

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  • ThegreatcowThegreatcow Lord of All Bacons Washington State - It's Wet up here innit? Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Yeah especially given how dangerous it is to exceed over a gram of caffeine per day, your scale, and your confidence in dealing with extremely minute quantities of this substance, would have to be exceedingly good to proceed with something like this.

    I really caution you on proceeding with something like this, it is really easy to mess up the dosage on something as sensitive as caffeine, and it can have dangerous consequences for your heart.

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  • FagatronFagatron Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Yes but I'm not completely retarded and fully aware of the lethal consequences if I "took a big scoop like he would protein." I seriously see no problem with this if I measure everything out appropriately and use it in moderation.

    Seriously I generally only drink a cup of coffee a day during the work week since I've adjusted to the early hours, that plus an energy drink or two if my sleep was interrupted or shortened for some reason.

    Also I cut caffeine from my diet most weekends. I don't have a dependency and I've never experienced withdrawal.

    Sorry 'bout your friend Enc.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited March 2011
    You should absolutely make sure you're getting enough of the B vitamins; they are all very important and being short on them can leave you feeling fatigued. I only know this because due to some issues with my digestive tract I have to take ridiculous amounts of the stuff to stay at the right levels. As to whether or not excess will actually boost your energy levels, I haven't read anything about that either way.

    As for whether or not you should do the anhydrous caffeine thing, if you live with another person or like... have pets or anything else that could get into it, I would say no. If you live on your own and are responsible with it and use only the recommended dosage and aren't planning to take more than indicated... whatever. As far as I know it's not illegal or a controlled substance. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on either of those two points.

    Just be very careful with it.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    You're not, it's just as silly as trying to pierce your own nipple. :rotate:

    I jest, it's not nearly that silly.

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  • UltimanecatUltimanecat Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    You're going to want something like this or, if you can afford it, a lab balance like this one.

    Caffeine is a neat drug in that if you stick to natural sources, it can be very difficult to overdose - the negative effects start outweighing the positive ones long before you're in any serious danger, and act as a solid discouragement to continue whatever you are doing in that regard.

    Coffee is already cheap enough in my eyes, and a cup of joe is a good way to meter yourself and keep yourself from doing something dumb, but if you really want to take the stuff straight up, you seem to know what you are doing. Keep your doses in the range of what you'd get out of a strong cup of coffee (anywhere between 100 - 200 mg) and you should be golden. I really can't see much benefit in taking more than 250 mg at once, and even that is pretty hefty and probably unnecessary.

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