Xenoblade Thread. Done...and Dusted.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    I think Aggro is a great idea for a realtime RPG battle system. It would have been perfect in FFXIII if it weren't so slow and clunky in that game.

    It also reminds me how Marle had it in Chrono Trigger. Considering how she was made of paper, that was probably the worst skill in the entire game.

  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    ...XIII has aggro, the Sentinel class is basically built around that idea!

    It works just fine, you bring out a SEN, they take the hits.

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    Well, if we're talking Final Fantasy, it's been around forever as a mechanic -- either indirectly as cover, or directly as provoke. Whether it was worth a damn is anyone's guess because I doubt anyone used it more than once per game before FF12. It's not really an interesting mechanic until you introduce enough disparity in survivability that it starts to actually matter what character is getting hit.

  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    Party order has effected probability of being hit in FF games since the first one, not the amount of damage you do. FF XII and XIII have it, though XII more than XIII.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    ...XIII has aggro, the Sentinel class is basically built around that idea!

    It works just fine, you bring out a SEN, they take the hits.

    ....I know. I was referring to how Sentinel could have been the best class if it had more counter-attacks, didn't take so long to get into/out of the stance, etc etc.

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    GamesTM Review. Some excerpts:
    We’re in that strange position where occasionally, the tables are turned and America gets screwed just as we have so many times in the past. Only in this case, America is really getting screwed – Xenoblade is hands-down the Wii’s best JRPG, and arguably the most competent and refreshing example of the genre this generation.
    In many ways, it’s as user-friendly a JRPG as you’ll ever play and, with comprehensive tutorials for its more in-depth elements, it’s almost impossible to get lost. But yeah, that depth is still there and as easy as it is to get lost in some of the game’s more confusing field areas, it’s every bit as easy to lose hours just tinkering with your party. There are passive skills to learn, link and share, battle arts to level up, stat-boosting gems to craft, collection logs to fill, hundreds of errands to run, an entire settlement to rebuild and relationships to be forged with not just allies but any named character in the world. In summary then, there’s a staggering amount to do whenever the story offers a little downtime, as it so frequently does. Enjoying the story at your own pace is actively encouraged here, a welcome change for the genre and one that couldn’t be further from Square Enix’s approach with FFXIII.
    While Monolith has clearly put a lot of thought and effort into making exploration fun again, its battle system is no slouch either. Falling somewhere between FFXII, World Of Warcraft and White Knight Chronicles, combat is fast-paced and fluid – clever and careful use of healing arts and buffs/debuffs are crucial with no in-fight item use, though the subsequent death of potion spam isn’t something the genre will mourn. Enemy Aggro is visualised on the targeted party member and since many talents have bonus effects if used from certain positions or in a set sequence, tactical Aggro management can net favourable results that defy the odds while overly aggressive play will almost always get you splattered.

    Iwata Asks
    Part 1: Sound
    Part 2: Story
    Part 3: Development

    ... How does he find the time to do these interviews?

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    I found a really good link that offers many step-by-step method to installing homebrew on your Wii, including a recently updated method that requires no games. It even has a specific Xenoblade guide if you just want to get that working.

    I'd link it if I was certain it was okay.

  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    It's kosher as long as said link contains no mention of piracy if memory serves, PM a G&T mod if you're really concerned about it.

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I'd say PM someone to get permission just to be extra super safe

    But I don't see why that would be a problem, we've even had homebrew threads going on at some points

  • agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    I already posted it just last page
    agoaj wrote:
    And it's even easier now since the mail exploit's been released.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    The one I was linked is actually different. It was made by GAF: http://gwht.wikidot.com/

    Not saying your link isn't as helpful, but this one specifically has a "Want to just run Xenoblade and not mess with anything else?" link.

    I ended up pre-ordering at ShopTo. They charge for shipping, which brought the total for $50.25, but a few people have spoken strongly about the store, and I should certainly get it earlier than I would have using one of the free shipping options.

    I'm still in talks with my guy in writing off the cost of the game for a review. I would still pay for shipping, but $7.50 is a bargain no matter how you slice it.

  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    I just got an email saying my Zavvi order was dispatched and that it will take 10-15 days to arrive. Sounds about right for going across the Atlantic to Texas.

  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    As for me, I should be able to pick up my copy on Friday. Only problem is I won't have any time to play it in the weekend. I may be able to find a few spare hours and post impressions somewhere next week though. Not that the most of you are jumping in anticipation for impressions, since you probably can't even buy it on your continent. I imagine people aren't too eager to know how awesome a game is without being able to actually buy it...

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  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    Renzo wrote:
    I just got an email saying my Zavvi order was dispatched and that it will take 10-15 days to arrive. Sounds about right for going across the Atlantic to Texas.

    Got the same email as well. My luck with ordering from the UK means it'll show up in about three weeks.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    Gyral wrote:
    Renzo wrote:
    I just got an email saying my Zavvi order was dispatched and that it will take 10-15 days to arrive. Sounds about right for going across the Atlantic to Texas.

    Got the same email as well. My luck with ordering from the UK means it'll show up in about three weeks.

    Yeah I don't expect mine to show up in 10-15 days. But it'd be nice...

  • BartholamueBartholamue Registered User regular
    Maybe they mean 10-15 business days.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    That...would make a lot of sense.

    So let's say I should expect it no earlier than September 2nd.

    Not bad.

  • RiokennRiokenn Registered User regular
    I'll wait and see what NOA decides to do. If they announce the Wii U's release date and start marketing games for it and killing off games for Wii I will most likely import.

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    Bad timing for importers considering Deus Ex.

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  • eobeteobet 8-bit childhood SwedenRegistered User regular
    Poo. Release date in Sweden isn't until the 19th... got a limited edition on pre-order as well...

    Heard the proposition that RIAA and MPAA should join forces and form "Music And Film Industry Association"?
  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    ...It's going to be released everywhere on August 19th. Unless you happen to be one of those fancy game journalisms. I am told Eurogamer's review will be up tomorrow morning. All bets on a 9.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    Okay, this is weird. I was looking at a GAF thread that had a new trailer for Zelda SS, but the actual video description says "Breaking: NoA Announces Xenoblade Chronicles Holiday 2011".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Lh9LBJgYVY&feature=player_embedded&hd=1

    A troll post to get hits (for ZELDA???), or was this a mistake for another video that was supposed to be posted?

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    Trollin' errday.

  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    Probably, but it's a pretty stupid thing to write as it would only take attention away from that SS vid.

    Even if it was true, it would do little to fan the flames from people like me who feel NoA basically fucked everyone over. Unless they were able to get this out in stores a month or two after the EU release, the only thing they'll pull off is releasing the same game at a time where it will get murdered by competition, will have already been played by most of the hardcore audience, and will then result in several online posts of Reggie's asshole shoulder shrug.

    Nintendo done fucked up on this one, and I see no way they'll ever be able to make it up. I mean, they very likely don't give a shit, as billions of people will end up buying Zelda and such anyway (myself included), but this was still a dick move as well as a literal spit on the face of a game that's gotten lots of praise, to the point that it could end up filling the company's gaping wide RPG hole as a long-running franchise had they the sense to give it more love.

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    Episode 3 of the Official 'Let's Play' is up. It's got no real story spoilers (just the names of a few places you'll visit at some point). It's mostly about the game's crafting system (though, in my opinion, some details could've been explained better).

  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-08-15-xenoblade-chronicles-review
    Eurogamer wrote:
    Further responsibility for your own wellbeing comes because this is a world without borders. No invisible wall will protect you from a cliff edge, and while sheer drops are occasionally used to provide some Zelda-style secret areas, a tumble from the wrong ledge will prove fatal.

    Xenoblade Chronicles may lack the universal appeal of Miyamoto's adventure series; its tendency toward team management makes this a game for those who prize complexity and numbers over economy and colours. But it shares Hyrule's all-important sense of place and delivers that same heady shot of wonder to the spirit as you explore.

    No Japanese RPG has more successfully married its various components this hardware generation. It's a game that invites us to reassess an entire genre, pointing to a bold future while nodding its respect towards the past. It's a towering triumph.
    9 / 10

    Sounds a bit like entering Hyrule Field for the first time in Ocarina of Time, only it's a thousand times bigger.

    http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/118/1187845p1.html
    IGN wrote:
    The likeable voice acting makes it easier to form lasting relationships with the characters, who are better-written and more believable than most. Their relationships with each other really make sense; rather than a band of random people thrown together by circumstance, your party really feels like a band of brothers (and sisters). They talk constantly during battles, encouraging each other and yelling awesomely British battle calls ("Get stuck in!" "Nice one mate!" "Come off it!"). If anything, they talk too much, but at least they're not the sterile pretty boys that we've come to expect from Japanese RPGs.

    That's what's really at the core of Xenoblade Chronicles' brilliance: it defies your expectations. After the corridors of FF XIII, the openness of this world is a revelation, as is the unselfconscious plotting. It's got a lot of action and some moments that pack an emotional punch, but none of the pompousness and melodrama of less accomplished Japanese epics. I'd forgotten that JRPGs could be anything other than depressingly linear and a heavily over-written; we've grown to accept it as a feature of the genre, one we have to live with. Xenoblade Chronicles shows us that things don't have to be this way, that there's still room for innovation in this struggling genre.
    90%

    Fair bit of warning - it is a bit spoiler-filled. Character interaction and plot sound fantastic though.

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  • JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    My will to wait for the sales numbers on thsi is faltering quickly. Damn I hope this sells a ton.

  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    My ShopTo order shipped today, which is good timing as I managed to homebrew my Wii last night. :^:

    I just hope I end up getting it earlier than the Zavvi orders, otherwise there was no point paying for shipping.

  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/en_GB/news/2011/xenoblade_chronicles_new_lets_play_videos_and_soundtrack_offer_44316.html
    Club Nintendo members are also in for a treat, as those who register their copy of the game before 30th September will for a limited time be able to download the game’s official soundtrack from the Treasures section of their Club Nintendo account.

    Noice.

    More reviews:
    http://www.cubed3.com/review/1024
    http://www.n-europe.com/review.php?rid=587

    Both 10 out of 10.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Does that apply to NA Club Nintendo members? Can you register PAL games on the NA site?

    Status is currently "on its way", says Royal Mail. How very cryptic.

    I really hope I get this before Deus Ex HR is out.

  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    No but you could easily make a European account.

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  • Satanic JesusSatanic Jesus Hi, I'm Liam! with broken glassesRegistered User regular
    So I preordered from Asda. I was going to get the one with the red classic controller from another site but decided against it as then I could save some money and buy other games too.

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  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    Sounds like the game might be the best JRPG of this generation. I pretty much have to import it now.

  • Vangu VegroVangu Vegro Registered User regular
    Well, that was disappointing. Got an email from the store where I preordered my copy of the CE saying that due to circumstances beyond their control they wouldn't get any. Still, it was easy to place an order at another store, thankfully.

    Also, if you haven't heard yet, Last Story and Pandora's Tower are coming to Europe in 2012. You Yankees have my sympathies.

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  • ArtereisArtereis Registered User regular
    It's hard to not import this, but I want to give NoA at least one chance to review sales numbers over there and make a decision. The critical acclaim might help too.....maybe.

  • RiokennRiokenn Registered User regular
    I'll give them till summer of next year, or if they flat out say no. Thats when I will import.

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  • JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    Riokenn wrote:
    I'll give them till summer of next year, or if they flat out say no. Thats when I will import.

    I'm not that patient. They only have to sell maybe 100k to break even on just switching the region code and shipping the game. If Europe hits or beats that first month and we don't get a a quick announcement from NOA, fuck 'em.

  • CalaveronCalaveron Registered User regular
    So to play this game on my NTSC Wii I'll basically need LetterBomb to install the Homebrew channel and Gecko OS to run the disc itself, right? (with BootMii as a safety measure in case I brick it)
    I checked out the tutorial at GAF and that's basically what they say, but I just want to confirm it since I'm paranoid as all hell that I'll brick my console.

  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    Calaveron wrote:
    So to play this game on my NTSC Wii I'll basically need LetterBomb to install the Homebrew channel and Gecko OS to run the disc itself, right? (with BootMii as a safety measure in case I brick it)
    I checked out the tutorial at GAF and that's basically what they say, but I just want to confirm it since I'm paranoid as all hell that I'll brick my console.

    Yep, that's what you need.

  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited August 2011

    Also, if you haven't heard yet, Last Story and Pandora's Tower are coming to Europe in 2012. You Yankees have my sympathies.
    Indeed they are!
    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-08-17-nintendo-confirms-wii-jrpgs-for-europe

    Wii is the bizarro SNES: confirmed

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