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Looking for dystopias

MKRMKR Registered User regular
edited April 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
I'm looking for games, movies, webcomics and other things set in dystopian environments. I've got things like Equilibrium and The Matrix in mind.

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  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Children of Men.

    It's great!

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Children of Men.

    It's great!

    That was a fun movie.

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  • RaernRaern Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Anything related to Warhammer 40,000. That universe is nasty: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2011
    We, by Yvegeny Zamyatin.

    The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood.

    Fritz Lang's Metropolis.

    Thomas More's Utopia.

    1984 by George Orwell.

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  • BoomShakeBoomShake The Engineer Columbia, MDRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
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  • wonderpugwonderpug Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Brave New World

    Fahrenheit 451

    The Prisoner tv series

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    yesss, your suggestions feed my powers

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  • Kate of LokysKate of Lokys Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Pretty much any science fiction (outside of offensively optimistic stuff like Star Trek) could be considered dystopian to some degree. A few specifics:

    Richard Morgan - gritty cyberpunk-noir dealing pretty heavily with how miserable life is for everyone who isn't obscenely rich and powerful. Some political and economic commentary, mostly along the lines of "man, unchecked capitalism has turned our world into a hellhole." The protagonist of Morgan's three main books is your standard steel-chewing supersoldier mercenary with a traumatic past, but he's made slightly more interesting by his reverence for a revolutionary anarchist demagogue.

    Margaret Atwood - bleak near-future visions, written well enough that they usually get filed under Literature rather than Science Fiction/Fantasy. The Handmaid's Tale is a classic: in the future, fertility is way down and religiosity is way up, so women of breeding age are basically forced into patriarchal servitude. Oryx and Crake is more recent, and deals with things like genetic modified organisms and the ever-increasing extent to which corporations assume the responsibilities formerly granted only to governments.

    Matthew Stover - might not be your thing (the Earth sections are definitely dystopian, Overworld hews closer to fantasy) but there's a D&D thread on it with summaries of his Acts of Caine novels.

    Some other, more obvious choices:
    - Fahrenheit 451 (film or book)
    - Deus Ex (game)
    - Transmetropolitan (comic)
    - Blade Runner (film or book)
    - Brave New World (book)
    - 1984 (book)
    - A Clockwork Orange (film or book)
    - The Running Man, The Long Walk (book)
    - V for Vendetta (comic)
    - Gattaca (film)
    - Banlieue 13 (film)
    - District 9 (film)

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  • exisexis Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    The Road (Cormac McCarthy), in book or movie form. I found the audiobook narrated by Tom Stechschulte to be excellent, and terribly depressing

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  • poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    The Gate to Women's Country by Sheri Tepper is a less famous one, similar to the Handmaid's Tale in some ways.

    Actually I'd argue that any supposedly utopian fiction is dystopian. From the POV of some characters, even The Culture is a dystopia.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    12 Monkeys hasn't been suggested yet.

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  • Kate of LokysKate of Lokys Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    It would also help to know the OP's stance on dystopian versus post-apocalyptic works, because those are basically two different axes, and some of the stuff suggested so far has been on just about polar ends of that particular graph space.

    If the axes are labelled something like "degree of societal control" (dystopia) and "degree of biological or environmental damage (post-apocalyptic), something like The Road would score very low on dystopia, but very high on post-apocalypse: there basically is no society or control left, so it's not that the world is shitty because of some oppressive regime, it's that the world is shitty because there was a massive nuclear war. Something like The Handmaid's Tale, on the other hand, is very high on the dystopian scale, what with the massive patriarchal theocracy and the government cheese and all, but very low on post-apocalysm. Then there's something kind of in the middle, like The Matrix: the virtual world of the Matrix itself is fairly dystopian, but the real world of Zion is post-apocalyptic.

    So, OP, what's your pleasure? If you do dig the end-of-the-world routine as well, I'm sure people will have half a hundred new recommendations for you; if your interest is more towards the help-help-I'm-being-oppressed, we can adjust accordingly.

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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Soylent Green. It remains depressingly relevant and wore worryingly continues to look more prophetic as time goes on.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Both are good. :rotate:

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  • [Michael][Michael] Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Just a couple of movies, most of which you've probably seen, but just in case:

    Carriers
    The Road
    Book of Eli
    Serenity (I think it counts, anyhow)
    Blade Runner

    I thought they were all good (except Carriers, which was more in the "okay/good" category).

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  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Shirley Jackson's "The Lottery"

    Probably Lewis Sinclair's "Babbit"

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  • simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    'The Children of Men' by P. D. James

    the movie is good, so is the book!

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  • Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Transmetropolitan

    that is all.

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Logan's Run with Michael York
    Gattaca with Ethan Hawke
    City of Lost Children with Ron Pearlman

    Alan Moore's V for Vendetta
    Richard Bachman/Stephen King's The Running Man
    Kurt Vonnegut's Player Piano
    pretty much anything that Philip K. Dick has written

    and it's been said but I'll say it again because it has quite possibly the best opening line of any book anywhere ever, Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury

    and and I just want to point out that if you haven't read The Road yet, do it, god that book is so good

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  • SinWithSebastianSinWithSebastian Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Octavia Butler's Xenogenesis trilogy has not been mentioned.

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  • nakirushnakirush Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Snowcrash
    Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom (sort of)

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  • wonderpugwonderpug Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    WALL*E

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2011
    I'm just going to throw The Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons out there yet again because at points it manages to be dystopian, post-apocalyptic, and sometimes both.

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2011
    i forgot about a canticle for liebowitz, although it skips eras frequently to the point where the genre is nebulous

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  • November FifthNovember Fifth Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    This Perfect Day by Ira Levin
    The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins

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  • bwaniebwanie Posting into the void Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    -SPI- wrote: »
    Soylent Green. It remains depressingly relevant and wore worryingly continues to look more prophetic as time goes on.

    that fucking oceanic report man.

    i sometimes feel we're at least halfway there.

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  • DarknessOfMineDarknessOfMine Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Hard Times by Charles Dickens
    After Dachau by Daniel Quinn
    Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro
    The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins

    All books.

    I personally haven't read these yet, but they have been recommended to me. I, too, am venturing into the dystopian genre - more on the books side of things though. :)

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  • Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    A couple of book suggestions:

    Margaret Atwood's Oryx and Crake is both dystopian and if not post-apocalyptic, at least apocalyptic. The Handmaid's Tale by the same author is great too. They turned it into a movie in the nineties but the movie sucks.

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  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    The Giver. I forget the author.

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  • LucidLucid Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Pretty much any science fiction (outside of offensively optimistic stuff like Star Trek) could be considered dystopian to some degree.
    I find star treks optimism refreshing sometimes. I can't take it that seriously anymore because I'm not fourteen, but it's nice sometimes to take part in some triumph of rationalism fantasy.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited April 2011
    i forgot about a canticle for liebowitz, although it skips eras frequently to the point where the genre is nebulous

    Canticle is great. I understand why it's considered one of the masterpieces of science fiction.

    I was going to suggest Oryx and Crake, but we got that part done already.

    The Windup Girl by Paolo Bacigalupi, maybe? "Bio-punk" book in the near future where gene-tailored crops are the only edible things that still grow on the entire planet and the corporations target each other's products with specalized plagues to kill off their crops. And it's downhill from there.

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  • UrQuanLord88UrQuanLord88 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I hear that Priest, film and manga counts.
    Surprised noone mentioned Demolition Man. Movie
    Judge Dredd, movie / comic
    Akira?, anime
    Aeon Flux, anime
    Samurai Jack has a couple of scenes with dystopia imagery, anime (lol)
    Half Life 2, game
    Syndicate / Syndicate Wars, game
    Ghost in Shell, anime
    Cowboy Bebop?, anime
    Ergo Proxy, anime
    Escape from New York, Escape from LA, movie
    Minority Report, movie
    THX 1138, movie
    Total Recall, movie
    Johnny Mnemonic, movie

    I copied some of them from wikipedia regarding movies, games/music/tv, comics.

    Alternatively you can just travel to Detroit for some scenery.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited April 2011
    Oh man, Aeon Flux. Good recommendation.

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  • simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    If you can, read the Akira manga instead of watching the anime - they're both good for what they are (the movie has some spectacular sequences), but the plot suffers a lot due to being cut from a six volume series, as you can expect.

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  • wallabeeXwallabeeX Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Time of the Wolf by Hanneke

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I'm still paying attention to this thread, just not replying to every suggestion. 300 "I'll check it out"s would be irritating for all involved.

    :rotate:

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2011
    oh my god, i forgot the best one

    my favourite dystopian novel

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  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Echo wrote: »
    Oh man, Aeon Flux. Good recommendation.

    The Aeon Flux shorts were fantastic; I haven't seen much of the series but I was a little disappointed with what I did see. I guess it would have been a difficult thing to transition into a series with plot and dialogue, though.

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  • MolybdenumMolybdenum Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    simonwolf wrote: »
    If you can, read the Akira manga instead of watching the anime - they're both good for what they are (the movie has some spectacular sequences), but the plot suffers a lot due to being cut from a six volume series, as you can expect.

    but the soundtrack!
    the soundtrack!

    seconds on pretty much everything.

    I do think you can have dystopia without having cyberpunk or apocalyptica present; Catch 22, The Mission, and (ironically) Apocalypse Now all offer a sort of localized societal and social breakdown as opposed to global, and things like Martian Chronicles, The Power and The Glory, and most of Haruki Murakami's short stories offer a sort of sidelong glance at the same principles of broken civilizations.

    of course, there's always:
    I recently purchased this and it isn't terrible so far.
    Shadowrun- the SNES/genesis game, i'm not familiar with the tabletop or current-gen ones.
    Dystopia- a sort of meh source mod that is very cyberpunk.
    Metro 2033
    Fallout (any of them)
    Bioshock (any of them)
    lots of Ayn Rand
    lots of Isaac Asimov, including I, Robot
    lots of William Gibson

    and getting a little more tangential;
    lots of Joseph Conrad
    lots of HP Lovecraft
    lots of Jack London

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  • SpawnbrokerSpawnbroker Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Not really a dystopia, more Lovecraftian in the sense that the world is way more fucked up than you imagined:

    John Dies At The End

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