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emigration

republic of merepublic of me Registered User regular
edited May 2011 in Debate and/or Discourse
I was just thinking about emigration in general due to my brother going to England in September, my black friend going to either Germany or America (his race is slightly important due to the fact that he has an Irish accent and passport so im here imagining him constantly having to explain himself due to most peoples disbelief that we have anything other than white people here which i would imagine will get old fast) and most of my friends going to Canada, America, England and Australia. It makes me think that this will be a new lost and scattered generation, brings to mind my own fears that i will be the last one standing if i dont go to my uncle in Bulgaria during the summer (as he wants me to) and if i do i will be joining the lost generation

In short, we arent the only country with an emigration problem and i believe this will only make the economic crisis world wide so much worse. And will add to cultural issues and racism as the nations of the earth swap populations. basically it saddens me deeply. My 16 year old friend left for england 2 months ago and is not returning home shes seeking work as a hairdresser, her boyfriend has already moved to France and one of the girls doing the same course as me has gone to Australia with her husband and kids and left everything and everyone she knows behind. Then you have my immensely dependent friend who has only recently let go of his mothers apron strings and cant cope without his whole social group looking out for him going to Scotland.

But maybe this is the new way of the world. maybe its progress? I am not qualified to say. Who realy knows what the future is any more any way?


Theres my openion, what does everyone else think

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  • Torso BoyTorso Boy Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    In short, we arent the only country with an emigration problem and i believe this will only make the economic crisis world wide so much worse.

    How?

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    The overwhelming majority of individuals in the world do not have any opportunity for inter-country mobility.

    So..?

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  • republic of merepublic of me Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    well im not saying emigration is wrong people shouldn't be restricted but they shouldn't be forced to leave. And its bad for everywhere because the country people are emigrating from is losing its young bright minds and the country they are immigrating to will find a strain on services when there are more job seekers than jobs as often happens, it happened here.

    What im saying is governments aren't doing enough to help the situation and are too busy lining their own pockets they should be encouraging industry and trying to keep the kids the country spent so much money educating here to improve and drive the progress of the nation

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    An immigrating talent pool is a good thing for countries. I also don't think the "massive" population leaving Ireland for any number of countries is going to stress, well, much.
    If Ireland really is losing that many people, I might think about immigrating my ass over there.

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Brain drain is a real problem, and it doesn't have easy or short-term solutions.

    It's also a lot more of a problem in low-income countries.

    It's particularly a problem when governments subsidize education only to have graduates flee to more developed countries. The medical fields have a pretty strong issue with this.

    The ultimate fix is having enough economic opportunity that your emigrants will want to return.

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Part of joining the Euro was signing up for the common labor market, which also entails labor moving around within the common currency area.

    Migration within-country isn't generally considered undesirable, at that, even though the suburbs invariably lose their bright young minds to urban cores.

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  • republic of merepublic of me Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    adytum wrote: »
    Brain drain is a real problem, and it doesn't have easy or short-term solutions.

    It's also a lot more of a problem in low-income countries.

    It's particularly a problem when governments subsidize education only to have graduates flee to more developed countries. The medical fields have a pretty strong issue with this.

    The ultimate fix is having enough economic opportunity that your emigrants will want to return.

    I agree completely that is exactly what i am talking about. And on your medical example, most of the doctors in the A&E in my city are non nationals and one of my ex boyfriends sisters had to go and work in a hospital in the UK. Also most of our hospitals are currently understaffed and the government has a recruitment embargo on the health services. I have no problems with non national doctors I was very sick as a child and the only doctor that could help me was an Asian doctor by the name of Dr Bashir he was a very old man then, he is probably dead but i owe my life to that man. But what gets me is the recruitment embargo on front-line services when it costs as much a year to run the Irish health services for 4 million people as it does to run NASA for 2 years (Or so RTE News said any way) . And its all administration almost every last penny of it.

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I dunno, NASAs budget has gotten pretty handedly slashed

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited May 2011
    I think there's a potentially interesting subject here, but it's buried under an OP that does nobody any favors.

    republic of me, please consider lurking and participating in topical threads more before starting a new discussion. There's a certain art to starting a conversation and this isn't quite it.

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