No. Get Baldur's Gate Tutu and play that first, then play BG2 straight after with a continuous save. There's literally no reason not to. BG1 is every bit as good as BG2 when you have the updated engine.
I still play Baldur's Gate annually and didn't even know about this. Looks like I need to check the mod pages for both games.
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Yeah, what is this tutu thing about?
Also, since everyone is hating on my P4, I'll explain. I'm normally not a huge PC gamer. I have all 3 current consoles, so I consider myself more of a console gamer. I've just been looking at older rpgs lately and I've been wanting to play one. My PC gaming urge isn't strong enough for me to shell out 500-1000 bucks on a new system yet.
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Also, since everyone is hating on my P4, I'll explain. I'm normally not a huge PC gamer. I have all 3 current consoles, so I consider myself more of a console gamer. I've just been looking at older rpgs lately and I've been wanting to play one. My PC gaming urge isn't strong enough for me to shell out 500-1000 bucks on a new system yet.
Tutu is a mode which basically means you play Baldur's Gate 1 in the BG2 engine. Which allows widescreen resolutions, the new UI, all the backend improvements to combat.
Torchlight is structured entirely around exactly what you do in Diablo 2 once you have dispensed with the crappy story. The lack of co-op is an unforgivable sin but Torchlight 2 I am far more excited for than D3. Mainly because it's going to come out.
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Torchlight is structured entirely around exactly what you do in Diablo 2 once you have dispensed with the crappy story. The lack of co-op is an unforgivable sin but Torchlight 2 I am far more excited for than D3. Mainly because it's going to come out.
:^:
Also, I've been playing Gothic 1and 2 here at work and these computers are pieces of shit. Pentium 4s, 512MB of RAM, integrated graphics, and most of the harddrives only have about 12MB of free space (I have a thumb drive). They're awesome games and you can get them for cheap from gog.com
edit: Oh, and I know I keep advocating these games but all of the games from Spiderweb Software are fucking amazing if you're looking for really old-school RPGs, and both Eschalon: Book 1 & 2 are great (both of those can be gotten off of Steam here and here or the dev's website).
I can't believe it took till the 2nd page for deus ex to be recomended
System Shock 2 if we're going with that vein.
Yes yes yes, so hard. System Shock 2 is absolutely fantastic, and is the predecessor spiritually, of the very artistic Bioshock series. Though in my personal opinion, System Shock 2 is still even better than Bioshock was.
The graphics are decidedly on the old and ugly side, but that's true of a lot of older 3D RPGs anyway. It's sort of open worldish, but there are definite chapters in the story and it's way more structured than Morrowind. If you just walk around and talk to people, it's pretty easy to find quests, and things eventually pick up.
The setting and writing are good. Everyone in the game is a convict, so the choices are mostly between shades of grey.
The combat is pretty different, but you get used to it. It's in real time, and it's more than just hacking and slashing. You're also blocking attacks and dodging and doing counterattacks slicing from different angles and stuff. It's kinda neat once you figure it out, and feels horribly clunky until you do.
Level design-wise it reminds me of Ocarina of Time. Maybe it's just the early 3D feel.
I don't know, maybe I shouldn't recommended it because I'm only in chapter 2? But I've enjoyed the six hours or so I've played so far.
The graphics are decidedly on the old and ugly side, but that's true of a lot of older 3D RPGs anyway. It's sort of open worldish, but there are definite chapters in the story and it's way more structured than Morrowind. If you just walk around and talk to people, it's pretty easy to find quests, and things eventually pick up.
The setting and writing are good. Everyone in the game is a convict, so the choices are mostly between shades of grey.
The combat is pretty different, but you get used to it. It's in real time, and it's more than just hacking and slashing. You're also blocking attacks and dodging and doing counterattacks slicing from different angles and stuff. It's kinda neat once you figure it out, and feels horribly clunky until you do.
Level design-wise it reminds me of Ocarina of Time. Maybe it's just the early 3D feel.
I don't know, maybe I shouldn't recommended it because I'm only in chapter 2? But I've enjoyed the six hours or so I've played so far.
Gothic II stands as one of my favourite RPG's of all time, actually. I haven't played the first, though i do own it on steam so i should try it out some time. Honestly as much as i love some modern RPG's, they just dont make em like they used to. I miss the days when i could see a shopkeeper in his shop and decide i want to brutally murder him for no reason, and the game would allow me to actually do so.
Mass Effect 2 is one of my favorite games of all time, and one that ive played through multiple times... Im not normally the type to do that.
Won't run on his machine, at least the few specs that he stated. It might be prudent for the OP to state his full system specs.
Another reason why I've never upgraded my system is because a lot of these newer rpgs are on consoles too. I've played quite a bit of Mass Effect 2 on my 360. It is good. I find most of the games I want to play for the PC are either on the consoles or are old or indie games that run on my PC fine anyway.
PC versions of a lot of games are superior to their console counter parts in many cases though, graphically and controls wise (in my opinion.). I am an avid PC gamer with a 360 which is seeing less and less use as time goes on and PC as a platform continues to progress while consoles are sitting at 6 year old tech. This is all just imo. I also prefer the lower price points on PC games, and a lot of the indie offerings i enjoy are PC only.
Also, since everyone is hating on my P4, I'll explain. I'm normally not a huge PC gamer. I have all 3 current consoles, so I consider myself more of a console gamer. I've just been looking at older rpgs lately and I've been wanting to play one. My PC gaming urge isn't strong enough for me to shell out 500-1000 bucks on a new system yet.
Tutu is a mode which basically means you play Baldur's Gate 1 in the BG2 engine. Which allows widescreen resolutions, the new UI, all the backend improvements to combat.
It should be noted that while Tutu is still quite usable and very good, Baldur's Gate Trilogy is a bit simpler to use and a bit more compatible with mods, due to BGT being newer and more up to date and Tutu being finished like five years ago.
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PC versions of a lot of games are superior to their console counter parts in many cases though, graphically and controls wise (in my opinion.). I am an avid PC gamer with a 360 which is seeing less and less use as time goes on and PC as a platform continues to progress while consoles are sitting at 6 year old tech. This is all just imo. I also prefer the lower price points on PC games, and a lot of the indie offerings i enjoy are PC only.
To each his own. I def. agree with the price of PC games and the indie games for sure, though. But like I said earlier a lot of indie games don't require a powerful PC, as do a lot of the steam sales I get. I have over 100 games in steam and my crappy computer can play all of them.
Torchlight is structured entirely around exactly what you do in Diablo 2 once you have dispensed with the crappy story. The lack of co-op is an unforgivable sin but Torchlight 2 I am far more excited for than D3. Mainly because it's going to come out.
I can't imagine playing a Diablo/Titan Quest/Dungeon Siege game single-player. It seems like it would be so boring - does Torchlight not have any sort of online play?
Torchlight is structured entirely around exactly what you do in Diablo 2 once you have dispensed with the crappy story. The lack of co-op is an unforgivable sin but Torchlight 2 I am far more excited for than D3. Mainly because it's going to come out.
I can't imagine playing a Diablo/Titan Quest/Dungeon Siege game single-player. It seems like it would be so boring - does Torchlight not have any sort of online play?
Not a damn bit, which is going to be fixed by it's sequel. However, I almost never play Diablo or it's various clones with anyone anyway so it's lack of online never bothered me (except Titan's Quest, I played through almost all of it co-op with a friend).
I can't believe it took till the 2nd page for deus ex to be recomended
System Shock 2 if we're going with that vein.
Yes yes yes, so hard. System Shock 2 is absolutely fantastic, and is the predecessor spiritually, of the very artistic Bioshock series. Though in my personal opinion, System Shock 2 is still even better than Bioshock was.
I adore System Shock 2. I say do more of this. The System Shocking 2.
I would drown a sack full of babies for System Shock 3.
I can't believe it took till the 2nd page for deus ex to be recomended
System Shock 2 if we're going with that vein.
Yes yes yes, so hard. System Shock 2 is absolutely fantastic, and is the predecessor spiritually, of the very artistic Bioshock series. Though in my personal opinion, System Shock 2 is still even better than Bioshock was.
I adore System Shock 2. I say do more of this. The System Shocking 2.
I would drown a sack full of babies for System Shock 3.
There were rumors EA was having someone working on SS3, actually. I don't now how true it is or if it was just someone making shit up and spreading it around, but there ya go.
To get back on topic, I recommend both KOTOR games as well. They both run well on my PC and it's about the same vintage as the OP's. The 2nd was great...I just wish it had the polish of the original.
Torchlight is structured entirely around exactly what you do in Diablo 2 once you have dispensed with the crappy story. The lack of co-op is an unforgivable sin but Torchlight 2 I am far more excited for than D3. Mainly because it's going to come out.
:^:
Also, I've been playing Gothic 1and 2 here at work and these computers are pieces of shit. Pentium 4s, 512MB of RAM, integrated graphics, and most of the harddrives only have about 12MB of free space (I have a thumb drive). They're awesome games and you can get them for cheap from gog.com
edit: Oh, and I know I keep advocating these games but all of the games from Spiderweb Software are fucking amazing if you're looking for really old-school RPGs, and both Eschalon: Book 1 & 2 are great (both of those can be gotten off of Steam here and here or the dev's website).
Haven't tried spiderweb's games, but I can vouch for Eschalon. The first game has a pretty sizable demo that should tell you if they're up your alley, and it got me hooked pretty quick. It's the kind of game where it's possible to screw yourself if you're careless in character building, but almost every problem has a way forward if you stop and think about it, even if it's using a portcullis to crush a monster. Really good music, too.
Other than that, I largely echo what's been said already: Deus Ex, Baldur's Gate, Torment, Arcanum, etc. I saw Barkley: Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden mentioned earlier, that game was inspired. And free.
I'll throw in a tentative recommendation for Anachronox, too. Tentative because it plays like a watered down FF7 knockoff. Recommended anyways because it's still one of the best written, acted, and directed RPGs I've ever seen. It saddens me to no end that the game will never get a sequel.
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I never really thought of Deus Ex as a rpg. I thought it was more of a shooter with rpg elements? Anyway, I do have that. I'm stuck in Chinatown right now, though.
The russian army RPG where you explore a radioactive zone and fight its mutants (awful lot of russian games like that) is good although it doesn't animate well with window 7.
I never really thought of Deus Ex as a rpg. I thought it was more of a shooter with rpg elements? Anyway, I do have that. I'm stuck in Chinatown right now, though.
It's the other way around. It's an RPG with shooter elements.
Also, why stuck?
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I started Gothic the other day due to this thread and after getting used to the controls I am enjoying it a fair bit! I do feel a bit lost at times though.
Well Darklands is an enitrely sandbox game with some very vague goals that do a poor job of giving you any guidance, which is something the OP mentioned not wanting. So I didn't say it.
Otherwise Darklands is one of my favorite games of all time.
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I never really thought of Deus Ex as a rpg. I thought it was more of a shooter with rpg elements? Anyway, I do have that. I'm stuck in Chinatown right now, though.
It's the other way around. It's an RPG with shooter elements.
Nope. It's an adventure game with RPG and Shooter elements.
I love this game. LET'S DEFINE DEUS EX! Everyone loses!
Something that may greatly enhance your enjoyment of Fallout anoffday is not using all of your Action Points on your turn in combat. Left over points get dumped into defense, greatly enhancing your suvivability, especially in the early game. Start thinking of moving one or two hexes for best effect in terms of movement. Making an enemy move just one hex also can be the difference between getting attacked multiple times and getting attacked once.
I love the combat in Fallout (aside from big fights taking FOREVER to resolve), it's got some meat to it.
I need to get back into the original, I just powered through it while enjoying 2 a lot longer, of course, 2 I abused the jet cure a little too much. I was actually overwhelmed with all the stuff that was put in and cut out. A pity that Enclave conversation wouldn't let you wipe out Gecko guns free.
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I still play Baldur's Gate annually and didn't even know about this. Looks like I need to check the mod pages for both games.
Also, since everyone is hating on my P4, I'll explain. I'm normally not a huge PC gamer. I have all 3 current consoles, so I consider myself more of a console gamer. I've just been looking at older rpgs lately and I've been wanting to play one. My PC gaming urge isn't strong enough for me to shell out 500-1000 bucks on a new system yet.
Enjoy. It goes on sale often, but $20 is still cheaper than what I paid for it.
Tutu is a mode which basically means you play Baldur's Gate 1 in the BG2 engine. Which allows widescreen resolutions, the new UI, all the backend improvements to combat.
It's nigh essential.
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It has some horrendous mechanics and nowhere near the build flexibility of d2, so idk...
on the other hand you do get a cool pet
:^:
Also, I've been playing Gothic 1 and 2 here at work and these computers are pieces of shit. Pentium 4s, 512MB of RAM, integrated graphics, and most of the harddrives only have about 12MB of free space (I have a thumb drive). They're awesome games and you can get them for cheap from gog.com
edit: Oh, and I know I keep advocating these games but all of the games from Spiderweb Software are fucking amazing if you're looking for really old-school RPGs, and both Eschalon: Book 1 & 2 are great (both of those can be gotten off of Steam here and here or the dev's website).
Yes yes yes, so hard. System Shock 2 is absolutely fantastic, and is the predecessor spiritually, of the very artistic Bioshock series. Though in my personal opinion, System Shock 2 is still even better than Bioshock was.
The graphics are decidedly on the old and ugly side, but that's true of a lot of older 3D RPGs anyway. It's sort of open worldish, but there are definite chapters in the story and it's way more structured than Morrowind. If you just walk around and talk to people, it's pretty easy to find quests, and things eventually pick up.
The setting and writing are good. Everyone in the game is a convict, so the choices are mostly between shades of grey.
The combat is pretty different, but you get used to it. It's in real time, and it's more than just hacking and slashing. You're also blocking attacks and dodging and doing counterattacks slicing from different angles and stuff. It's kinda neat once you figure it out, and feels horribly clunky until you do.
Level design-wise it reminds me of Ocarina of Time. Maybe it's just the early 3D feel.
I don't know, maybe I shouldn't recommended it because I'm only in chapter 2? But I've enjoyed the six hours or so I've played so far.
I recommended it two posts above yours. :P
In my defense, you hadn't when I started writing that. ;-)
But hey, two recommendations within minutes of each other! It must be good!
And yes, the game is good!
It should be noted that while Tutu is still quite usable and very good, Baldur's Gate Trilogy is a bit simpler to use and a bit more compatible with mods, due to BGT being newer and more up to date and Tutu being finished like five years ago.
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I can't imagine playing a Diablo/Titan Quest/Dungeon Siege game single-player. It seems like it would be so boring - does Torchlight not have any sort of online play?
Not a damn bit, which is going to be fixed by it's sequel. However, I almost never play Diablo or it's various clones with anyone anyway so it's lack of online never bothered me (except Titan's Quest, I played through almost all of it co-op with a friend).
I adore System Shock 2. I say do more of this. The System Shocking 2.
I would drown a sack full of babies for System Shock 3.
There were rumors EA was having someone working on SS3, actually. I don't now how true it is or if it was just someone making shit up and spreading it around, but there ya go.
Haven't tried spiderweb's games, but I can vouch for Eschalon. The first game has a pretty sizable demo that should tell you if they're up your alley, and it got me hooked pretty quick. It's the kind of game where it's possible to screw yourself if you're careless in character building, but almost every problem has a way forward if you stop and think about it, even if it's using a portcullis to crush a monster. Really good music, too.
Other than that, I largely echo what's been said already: Deus Ex, Baldur's Gate, Torment, Arcanum, etc. I saw Barkley: Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden mentioned earlier, that game was inspired. And free.
I'll throw in a tentative recommendation for Anachronox, too. Tentative because it plays like a watered down FF7 knockoff. Recommended anyways because it's still one of the best written, acted, and directed RPGs I've ever seen. It saddens me to no end that the game will never get a sequel.
Now playing: Teardown and Baldur's Gate 3 (co-op)
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http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
It's the other way around. It's an RPG with shooter elements.
Also, why stuck?
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darklands
any of the old SSI games by tsr
pools of radiance
the azure bonds
secret of the silver blades
pools of darkness
Otherwise Darklands is one of my favorite games of all time.
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Probably true, but Dead Space was severely lacking in the SHODAN department.
Look at you hacker, a pathetic creature of meat and bone.
Come to think of it, EVERY game is severly lacking in the SHODAN department. Exception: Glados.
Nope. It's an adventure game with RPG and Shooter elements.
Something that may greatly enhance your enjoyment of Fallout anoffday is not using all of your Action Points on your turn in combat. Left over points get dumped into defense, greatly enhancing your suvivability, especially in the early game. Start thinking of moving one or two hexes for best effect in terms of movement. Making an enemy move just one hex also can be the difference between getting attacked multiple times and getting attacked once.
I love the combat in Fallout (aside from big fights taking FOREVER to resolve), it's got some meat to it.
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534