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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    i'm the best peoples

    and got cat swag

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  • WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    FirmSkater wrote: »
    I know a girl who just hates physical human contact. She is capable of having relationships, even romantic ones. But hates the idea of hugging, holding hands, or even sitting next to someone. Things like kissing or sex she finds outright gross.

    She describes herself as 'asexual' because she has no desire to ever have sex or even kiss another human being. She does still get crushes and sometimes wants to pursue a romantic (boyfriend/girlfriend) relationship with people but it obviously never works out because everyone else wants a normal relationship with the intimate things that usually involves.

    In case its not already obvious - I went out with her in highschool for a while before I knew this (and probably before she did too). Since then shes had a bunch of "boyfriends" but it has never worked out for more than a few weeks or months.

    kinda sounds like she's broken though

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  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    i thought it was a science word

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Is there like a blog that lists words when they become offensive?

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  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    nothing is more offensive than science, obviously.

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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Wren wrote: »
    FirmSkater wrote: »
    I know a girl who just hates physical human contact. She is capable of having relationships, even romantic ones. But hates the idea of hugging, holding hands, or even sitting next to someone. Things like kissing or sex she finds outright gross.

    She describes herself as 'asexual' because she has no desire to ever have sex or even kiss another human being. She does still get crushes and sometimes wants to pursue a romantic (boyfriend/girlfriend) relationship with people but it obviously never works out because everyone else wants a normal relationship with the intimate things that usually involves.

    In case its not already obvious - I went out with her in highschool for a while before I knew this (and probably before she did too). Since then shes had a bunch of "boyfriends" but it has never worked out for more than a few weeks or months.

    kinda sounds like she's broken though

    Nah. She's just asexual. If she says she's asexual she is and you gotta accept that, your opinion is irrelevant when it comes to determining other peoples sexual and gender identities. Asexuals aren't broken.


    edit: And someone mentioned how someone in highschool was asexual and then later they weren't, and you know what, people change and that's just something you gotta accept. I know an ftm who was a lesbian before transitioning and then afterwards they were gay. Things happen. It doesn't make their gender or sexual identity any less valid.

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  • CogliostroCogliostro Marginal Opinions Spring, TXRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Druhim wrote: »
    Cogliostro wrote: »
    There's also a lot of impotent rage from Americans and ex-Americans alike. Instead of doing something about injustices they just whine about it on the internet and attempt to make themselves feel better. The right thing to do would be to take some kind of action in real life. It's amazing what happens when you do a little real work. :)

    You mean like your recent post about how you'll be laughing at all the dems if Obama is re-elected? Or is that not impotent because you're right and all the dems are wrong? Break it down for me.

    OH! no I'll be laughing because of the impotent rage all my republican friends have about him being in office. I happened to catch the 3 millionth "xxx days till Obama's out of office' facebook thing.

    Honestly, I hate all politicians equally. :)

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    "terrible opinions"

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Kochikens wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    I am not saying that people shouldn't be willing to learn these terms, just that it shouldn't be surprising that often people don't, and that they can get confused by them.

    That's fine. Just be respectful of people and you'll get by fine! Nobody is going to be 100% what that label is most of the time anyways, that's why communication and understanding is so important. Everyone expresses themselves differently. We do what we want, we are who we are, everyone is different. If you're ever confused about what to call someone just ask! As long as you don't start asking super personal questions that you wouldn't ask to any straight cisgendered person, you're fine.

    Peoples are peoples.

    No that's cool

    I'm a pretty big fan of the "generalisations are just that" idea anyway

    Personally I don't want to offend and I think other people feel similarly sometimes, which is why gender terms being complex can become a bit of a struggle.

    But yeah best way to learn is to ask

    And you are good people Kochi, just fyi!

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  • WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Kochikens wrote: »
    Wren wrote: »
    FirmSkater wrote: »
    I know a girl who just hates physical human contact. She is capable of having relationships, even romantic ones. But hates the idea of hugging, holding hands, or even sitting next to someone. Things like kissing or sex she finds outright gross.

    She describes herself as 'asexual' because she has no desire to ever have sex or even kiss another human being. She does still get crushes and sometimes wants to pursue a romantic (boyfriend/girlfriend) relationship with people but it obviously never works out because everyone else wants a normal relationship with the intimate things that usually involves.

    In case its not already obvious - I went out with her in highschool for a while before I knew this (and probably before she did too). Since then shes had a bunch of "boyfriends" but it has never worked out for more than a few weeks or months.

    kinda sounds like she's broken though

    Nah. She's just asexual. If she says she's asexual she is and you gotta accept that, your opinion is irrelevant when it comes to determining other peoples sexual and gender identities. Asexuals aren't broken.

    no it sounds like she finds the idea of human contact gross which sounds like some sort of physcological block that can be fixed

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  • Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Darmak wrote: »
    Is a gay hermaphrodite attracted to other hermaphrodites?

    I imagine if they are attracted to hermaphrodites that identify as the same gender as them

    yeah sure

    E: Intersex, sorry

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  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    i thought it was a science word

    in medicine, intersex is the predominate & accepted term

    i would link the wiki article titled "Intersex" but it has straight up pics of genitalia and such

    huh, well I did not know that

    not sure what makes it offensive but whatever

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  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Wren wrote: »
    Kochikens wrote: »
    Wren wrote: »
    FirmSkater wrote: »
    I know a girl who just hates physical human contact. She is capable of having relationships, even romantic ones. But hates the idea of hugging, holding hands, or even sitting next to someone. Things like kissing or sex she finds outright gross.

    She describes herself as 'asexual' because she has no desire to ever have sex or even kiss another human being. She does still get crushes and sometimes wants to pursue a romantic (boyfriend/girlfriend) relationship with people but it obviously never works out because everyone else wants a normal relationship with the intimate things that usually involves.

    In case its not already obvious - I went out with her in highschool for a while before I knew this (and probably before she did too). Since then shes had a bunch of "boyfriends" but it has never worked out for more than a few weeks or months.

    kinda sounds like she's broken though

    Nah. She's just asexual. If she says she's asexual she is and you gotta accept that, your opinion is irrelevant when it comes to determining other peoples sexual and gender identities. Asexuals aren't broken.

    no it sounds like she finds the idea of human contact gross which sounds like some sort of physcological block that can be fixed

    and it might be. or it might not be. the point is that's not up to you. it's ultimately up to her, hopefully with some help from a good psychologist.

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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Wren wrote: »
    no it sounds like she finds the idea of human contact gross which sounds like some sort of physcological block that can be fixed

    I know asexuals who find the concept of actually touching another human being in non platonic way to be disgusting and unappealing. Just like how your stereotypical straight guy jock thinks that touching another guy in a non platonic manner to be disgusting. OH NO MAN BUT ITS A STRAIGHT HUG, NO HOMO. NO HOMO BRO.


    also just to copy paste my edit up above down to here

    edit: And someone mentioned how someone in highschool was asexual and then later they weren't, and you know what, people change and that's just something you gotta accept. I know an ftm who was a lesbian before transitioning and then afterwards they were gay. Things happen. It doesn't make their gender or sexual identity any less valid.


    editedit; also yes what cilla said hey cilla < 3333

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Wren wrote: »
    Kochikens wrote: »
    Wren wrote: »
    FirmSkater wrote: »
    I know a girl who just hates physical human contact. She is capable of having relationships, even romantic ones. But hates the idea of hugging, holding hands, or even sitting next to someone. Things like kissing or sex she finds outright gross.

    She describes herself as 'asexual' because she has no desire to ever have sex or even kiss another human being. She does still get crushes and sometimes wants to pursue a romantic (boyfriend/girlfriend) relationship with people but it obviously never works out because everyone else wants a normal relationship with the intimate things that usually involves.

    In case its not already obvious - I went out with her in highschool for a while before I knew this (and probably before she did too). Since then shes had a bunch of "boyfriends" but it has never worked out for more than a few weeks or months.

    kinda sounds like she's broken though

    Nah. She's just asexual. If she says she's asexual she is and you gotta accept that, your opinion is irrelevant when it comes to determining other peoples sexual and gender identities. Asexuals aren't broken.

    no it sounds like she finds the idea of human contact gross which sounds like some sort of physcological block that can be fixed

    maybe it's not how you live your life

    but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with her

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  • Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Kochikens wrote: »
    Wren wrote: »
    FirmSkater wrote: »
    I know a girl who just hates physical human contact. She is capable of having relationships, even romantic ones. But hates the idea of hugging, holding hands, or even sitting next to someone. Things like kissing or sex she finds outright gross.

    She describes herself as 'asexual' because she has no desire to ever have sex or even kiss another human being. She does still get crushes and sometimes wants to pursue a romantic (boyfriend/girlfriend) relationship with people but it obviously never works out because everyone else wants a normal relationship with the intimate things that usually involves.

    In case its not already obvious - I went out with her in highschool for a while before I knew this (and probably before she did too). Since then shes had a bunch of "boyfriends" but it has never worked out for more than a few weeks or months.

    kinda sounds like she's broken though

    Nah. She's just asexual. If she says she's asexual she is and you gotta accept that, your opinion is irrelevant when it comes to determining other peoples sexual and gender identities. Asexuals aren't broken.


    edit: And someone mentioned how someone in highschool was asexual and then later they weren't, and you know what, people change and that's just something you gotta accept. I know an ftm who was a lesbian before transitioning and then afterwards they were gay. Things happen. It doesn't make their gender or sexual identity any less valid.

    Actually, that sounds a lot more like a psychological block, kochi

    she doesn't just lack a want for sex but it sounds like she finds that just touching other people, in a sexual manner or otherwise, is straight up gross

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  • UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    there's a Q and an I now?

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I wouldn't get mad at someone using hermaphrodite

    intersex is a lesser known word, and it's rooted in mythology, of course it's going to be known, even if the origins aren't

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  • WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    on principle I refuse to touch an other guy unless they're attractive. touching ugly dudes is just gross and homo

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  • Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Ubik wrote: »
    there's a Q and an I now?

    Queer and Intersex

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  • SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Ubik wrote: »
    there's a Q and an I now?

    I learned something today!

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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Actually, that sounds a lot more like a psychological block, kochi

    she doesn't just lack a want for sex but it sounds like she finds that just touching other people, in a sexual manner or otherwise, is straight up gross

    tommy its completely irrelevant what it sounds like to you

    if she decides shes asexual
    she is asexual

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  • Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Antimatter wrote: »
    I wouldn't get mad at someone using hermaphrodite

    intersex is a lesser known word, and it's rooted in mythology, of course it's going to be known, even if the origins aren't

    Intersex just kinda sounds like more of an adjective than a noun to me, so my brain went straight to hermaphrodite

    which is probably pretty telling on my part, but whatever

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  • SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    I wouldn't get mad at someone using hermaphrodite

    intersex is a lesser known word, and it's rooted in mythology, of course it's going to be known, even if the origins aren't

    you should, because its offensive

    and intersex is not really lesser known

    Hey Koshi! Why is it offensive?

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  • WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Dubh wrote: »
    Wren wrote: »
    Kochikens wrote: »
    Wren wrote: »
    FirmSkater wrote: »
    I know a girl who just hates physical human contact. She is capable of having relationships, even romantic ones. But hates the idea of hugging, holding hands, or even sitting next to someone. Things like kissing or sex she finds outright gross.

    She describes herself as 'asexual' because she has no desire to ever have sex or even kiss another human being. She does still get crushes and sometimes wants to pursue a romantic (boyfriend/girlfriend) relationship with people but it obviously never works out because everyone else wants a normal relationship with the intimate things that usually involves.

    In case its not already obvious - I went out with her in highschool for a while before I knew this (and probably before she did too). Since then shes had a bunch of "boyfriends" but it has never worked out for more than a few weeks or months.

    kinda sounds like she's broken though

    Nah. She's just asexual. If she says she's asexual she is and you gotta accept that, your opinion is irrelevant when it comes to determining other peoples sexual and gender identities. Asexuals aren't broken.

    no it sounds like she finds the idea of human contact gross which sounds like some sort of physcological block that can be fixed

    maybe it's not how you live your life

    but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with her

    if someone is afraid of going outside I think that's something wrong. maybe being afraid of touching other people is some sort of phobia with less harm attached to it but you're really not doing that person any favors by ignoring it

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    you're the red white and blue

    all the queerest things you do

    america, america, you're fucking gay

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    I wouldn't get mad at someone using hermaphrodite

    intersex is a lesser known word, and it's rooted in mythology, of course it's going to be known, even if the origins aren't

    you should, because its offensive

    and intersex is not really lesser known

    que te jodan

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    I wouldn't get mad at someone using hermaphrodite

    intersex is a lesser known word, and it's rooted in mythology, of course it's going to be known, even if the origins aren't

    you should, because its offensive

    and intersex is not really lesser known

    you know, just like it's not someone's place to decide if someone who considers themself asexual is "broken" or "wrong", it's not your place to tell someone they should be offended and angry about a word you're offended and angry over

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    you know I rarely have cause to discuss people with male and female reproductive organs in my day to day

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  • UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Ubik wrote: »
    there's a Q and an I now?

    Queer and Intersex

    i don't want to offend

    but isn't queer used as a synonym for some of the other things?

    what makes it different?

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    If a word used to describe a group of people is over 100 years old, it's offensive by default. This is the rule.

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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Wren wrote: »
    if someone is afraid of going outside I think that's something wrong. maybe being afraid of touching other people is some sort of phobia with less harm attached to it but you're really not doing that person any favors by ignoring it

    You don't know this girl. You don't know if she's AFRAID of touching someone. That's like me saying, Wren, touch that guys dick. And if you don't then there's something psychologically wrong with you? No no. You don't know anything about this girl. If she says she's asexual, you accept that, face value. Someone's gender or sexual identity is none of your business.


    Asexuals get a lot of shit from everyone. They get accused to just being pederasts or into bestiality or somethings wrong with them or broken. Sorry if I get a bit touchy guys. : (

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Ubik wrote: »
    Ubik wrote: »
    there's a Q and an I now?

    Queer and Intersex

    i don't want to offend

    but isn't queer used as a synonym for some of the other things?

    what makes it different?

    queer/questioning

    basically, not quite sure

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  • TheGerbilTheGerbil Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Hermaphrodite is offensive now? Because in the university lab I work at we use that time all the time.

    It mostly applies to other animals and such, but hermaphrodite is something still very much used in certain fields of Academia.

    Edit: Oh I get it, applying it ot humans is offensive because it means that the individual is fully male and female, which is true for many organisms but not people. That makes a lot more sense.

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  • UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Ubik wrote: »
    Ubik wrote: »
    there's a Q and an I now?

    Queer and Intersex

    i don't want to offend

    but isn't queer used as a synonym for some of the other things?

    what makes it different?

    queer/questioning

    basically, not quite sure

    ah ok, ty

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Druhim wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    I wouldn't get mad at someone using hermaphrodite

    intersex is a lesser known word, and it's rooted in mythology, of course it's going to be known, even if the origins aren't

    you should, because its offensive

    and intersex is not really lesser known

    you know, just like it's not someone's place to decide if someone who considers themself asexual is "broken" or "wrong", it's not your place to tell someone they should be offended and angry about a word you're offended and angry over
    Actually it is. Hermaphrodite does not address the biological conditions known as "Intersex." Hermaphrodite implies a presentation of both genitals, when rarely are both fully developed. Sorry, you don't get to do that and it isn't okay.

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  • CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    I wouldn't get mad at someone using hermaphrodite

    intersex is a lesser known word, and it's rooted in mythology, of course it's going to be known, even if the origins aren't

    you should, because its offensive

    and intersex is not really lesser known

    Oh thank God you're here to make sure everyone has the correct emotional response to everything.

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  • WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Kochikens wrote: »
    Wren wrote: »
    if someone is afraid of going outside I think that's something wrong. maybe being afraid of touching other people is some sort of phobia with less harm attached to it but you're really not doing that person any favors by ignoring it

    You don't know this girl. You don't know if she's AFRAID of touching someone. That's like me saying, Wren, touch that guys dick. And if you don't then there's something psychologically wrong with you? No no. You don't know anything about this girl. If she says she's asexual, you accept that, face value. Someone's gender or sexual identity is none of your business.


    Asexuals get a lot of shit from everyone. They get accused to just being pederasts or into bestiality or somethings wrong with them or broken. Sorry if I get a bit touchy guys. : (

    you don't know this girl either. but with what information I was given I was able to form my opinion. and before I touch this guys dick, is he cut or uncut? this is important

    and I know how you feel. I like fucking animals and its hard to live with

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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Ubik wrote: »
    Ubik wrote: »
    there's a Q and an I now?

    Queer and Intersex

    i don't want to offend

    but isn't queer used as a synonym for some of the other things?

    what makes it different?

    Queer is a sexual identity. It's very all inclusive and means a lot of things. It can mean anything from I am a guy who dates women 90% of the time but I really like sucking dick. It can mean I am a person who likes men and women and transgendered people and genderqueer people. It can mean a lot of things.

    It is prettymuch the other checkbox.

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  • CogliostroCogliostro Marginal Opinions Spring, TXRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    "terrible opinions"

    I assume you're speaking of my reputation around here.

    Yes, around here I have terrible opinions. It's something I've learned to live with and embrace in able to live in these boards. :>

    Like people with herpes.

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