Or in other words, assuming you're going to buy at least one of these PSP ports, you'll be giving Sony (and PSP developers) more of your money than you would otherwise, right? Sounds like a good idea to me. You said it yourself, you weren't going to buy the PSP anyway, so they're getting more money than they would otherwise.
Well yeah, it's good for me because I have more games I can potentially play without getting another device. It's a plus for Playstation 3 and Playstation 3 owners but something that weakens Sony's handheld market. Yeah, I wasn't going to buy a PSP anyway, but look at TheSonicRetard. Had he known this was coming he probably wouldn't have bought a PSP Go.
As for the game they announced, sure that's relatively new but the system itself is on the way out. So I bring up my backwards compatibility argument again. How's it different from buying a Wii at launch at then buying say, the GC version of RE4?
I don't even get the point you're trying to make, sorry.
Unco's saying that buying a game to play on the PS3 when it's also available on the PSP is no different than buying a game to play on the Wii when you could have bought it on the Gamecube.
In Japan more people have PSPs than PS3s so it works both ways; encourage people who game exclusively on handhelds to pick up the (more expensive, finally not retailing at a loss) home console, netting an additional software sale to boot.
TheSonicRetard's case is a lot less likely to happen. The PSP's 7 years old and the PSPgo is no longer being manufactured afaik, so Sony can afford to downplay it.
Anyway, this is great news and it's good practice for the connectivity Sony promised the NGP would have with the PS3.
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I still don't see how that's the same thing. Gamecube was dead by the time RE4 Wii Edition or New Play Control titles came along. PSP is very much alive in Japan. As irrelevant as it is in the states, I'm pretty sure Sony would still like to sell some systems before the NGP hits. This is very good for the games, not the PSP platform.
...MOTHER FUCKER. 2 weeks ago I caved and bought a PSP GO, a tv-out cable, a matching DS3, and a cradle because I was tired of waiting for something like this.
this sucks.
This is how I feel right now. Then again, this is how I felt when they announced DMC3: Special Edition with a better game so...
I still don't see how that's the same thing. Gamecube was dead by the time RE4 Wii Edition or New Play Control titles came along. PSP is very much alive in Japan. As irrelevant as it is in the states, I'm pretty sure Sony would still like to sell some systems before the NGP hits. This is very good for the games, not the PSP platform.
Monster Hunter Tri came out on the Wii and sold 1 million copies, Monster Hunter Portable 3 came out on the PSP and sold 4.5 million. This isn't going to do a thing to the PSP in Japan, handhelds are kind there and something like this is not going to change anything.
Outside of Japan though (and I think maybe South Korea), the PSP is already dead and this is coming far too late to make any sizable effect to its sales. In fact, I think this might actually encourage publishers to localise games they wouldn't have bothered with otherwise, due to the dried up PSP market (like Valkyria Chronicles 3).
...MOTHER FUCKER. 2 weeks ago I caved and bought a PSP GO, a tv-out cable, a matching DS3, and a cradle because I was tired of waiting for something like this.
this sucks.
It's not going to be anywhere near every game.
It's more of a test bed for some of the shit they are planning with NGP.
I hope hope hope the do this with dissidia and then set up servers to play online. Man that would be awesome.
(yes I know about ad-hoc party, but common)
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I will say this: It's rather interesting how Sony has decided to embrace their handheld's ability to adapt console-like experiences to a portable machine in order to make playable PS3 editions. Rather than avert the issue they faced with the PSP, they've upped the dosage and amplified the effect.
I'm not sure how much they could do this with NGP, with its front and back touch-screen, but this tactic, which I am now dubbing the Super Sonyboy Adapter approach, may come back to hurt their handheld business. If you've got to buy two versions of a game for any kind of connectivity, and it boils down to playing it on an NGP or a PS3, the greater ratio of people will want to play it on the console (from a Western perspective). I like it if their aim is to give the player a great choice in the matter, but I can't imagine this would boost the budding sales of the NGP in any way--it's great for the pre-existing PSP library, but selling a new system requires getting people interested in its own software titles.
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This whole remaster thing is a neat idea, and I was skeptical how the games would look until I saw the MH footage. Imagining Crisis Core and Dissidia looking like that would be awesome.
But I also think they aren't going full throttle with this thing. Instead of merely saying that these are PS3 versions of PSP games that share PSP saves, how about saying that these remaster versions are also compatible with the NGP? Then you've solved the issue of transferring UMD titles you already own, because now you have an incentive to re-purchase them (so long as you own a PS3). That would be awesome.
I'm also miffed they're still sticking with the ad-hoc system, since I own a PS3 that apparently doesn't support it (you need a version with built-in WiFi). Unless they change that requirement, I'm left in the cold once again.
Perhaps Sony will look at it more from a financial aspect rather than a pure sales perspective. As game budgets go up, exclusives die down. When you're spending a lot of money you want to put it on as many platforms as possible. There is zero incentive to make a PSP2 exclusive game rather than a 3DS/PSP2 or PSP2/360/PS3/PC. We're already seeing some publishers/developers limit themselves on the 3DS. Perhaps they offer the feature to Sony exclusive games. i.e you expand the potential market right off the bat. It also gives incentive to buy the PSN version which earns Sony the retail cut along with any licensing fees, making it far more beneficial for them. While you sell fewer PSP2's, you potentially gain more Sony exclusives which could push people towards buying a PS3 over a 360 if it doesn't get them to buy a PSP2 and gets people buying more games on Sony systems from the Sony store, all of which gets them more money.
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Man its about time monster hunter is coming to the ps3. One of the main reasons I bought one was so I could play it this generation, and then they put it on the wii! =(
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It's not time to celebrate yet. It's Monster Hunter, but it's definitely not MH4. Or even 3, really.
It's a higher-res port of a down-port from Wii's Monster Hunter 3 (tri). It has about twice the content (more monsters, more weapons) but there's no possibility any of the features cut in the down-port will come back; aside from the graphics, it's the exactly the same as the PSP game.
While your opinions may vary on most of the changes from Tri, the further-reduced monster HP and severely nerfed attack patterns of all the difficult monsters makes Portable 3rd the least challenging Monster Hunter game released by far. I know the difficulty is meant for you to be able to kill anything while waiting 5-10 minutes for a bus or train, but they really took it too far by making sure the all of the monster attack patterns just aren't threatening any longer. Well, except Diablos. He's still Diablos.
It's not time to celebrate yet. It's Monster Hunter, but it's definitely not MH4. Or even 3, really.
It's a higher-res port of a down-port from Wii's Monster Hunter 3 (tri). It has about twice the content (more monsters, more weapons) but there's no possibility any of the features cut in the down-port will come back; aside from the graphics, it's the exactly the same as the PSP game.
While your opinions may vary on most of the changes from Tri, the further-reduced monster HP and severely nerfed attack patterns of all the difficult monsters makes Portable 3rd is the least challenging Monster Hunter game released by far. I know the difficulty is meant for you to be able to kill anything while waiting 5-10 minutes for a bus or train, but they really took it too far by making sure the all of the monster attack patterns just aren't threatening any longer. Well, except Diablos. He's still Diablos.
I haven't played since the first one, back on the PS2. =/
I would definately prefer just a MH4 on the PS3, but I will probably settle for this for now.
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I'm pretty sure this "PSP" up-port label is the essentially the death knell for PSP, but also the first sure sign there will be PS3/NGP games which will work in exactly the same way. It's a test for the tech, and a migration in the making.
There's rumors about a Portable 3rd G. If they're real, then let's hope it's for NGP/PS3 (and maybe Wii), runs the actual MH Tri engine with all of its features, keeps all the monsters from P3rd and Tri (with a few more of course), and gets completely rebalanced.
It's not time to celebrate yet. It's Monster Hunter, but it's definitely not MH4. Or even 3, really.
It's a higher-res port of a down-port from Wii's Monster Hunter 3 (tri). It has about twice the content (more monsters, more weapons) but there's no possibility any of the features cut in the down-port will come back; aside from the graphics, it's the exactly the same as the PSP game.
While your opinions may vary on most of the changes from Tri, the further-reduced monster HP and severely nerfed attack patterns of all the difficult monsters makes Portable 3rd is the least challenging Monster Hunter game released by far. I know the difficulty is meant for you to be able to kill anything while waiting 5-10 minutes for a bus or train, but they really took it too far by making sure the all of the monster attack patterns just aren't threatening any longer. Well, except Diablos. He's still Diablos.
I haven't played since the first one, back on the PS2. =/
I would definately prefer just a MH4 on the PS3, but I will probably settle for this for now.
For Capcom this is most likely a test model for the PS3. If it works you can so see MH4 being an NGP/PS3 exclusive. If this was true and Capcom and Sony were savvy they would include a 50% off downloading the PS3 version with every NGP purchase.
I put like 120 hours into Monster Hunter Tri for the Wii during the time I had it. I would lose myself in this, mostly because of the people here I know I would be able to play it with.
Not to mention that I absolutely love Monster Hunter now thanks to a certain german forumite.
A remaster of Valkyria Chronicles 3 would be lovely. I have no problems playing it on my PSP, but the game seem more suited to consoles if you ask me.
Sadly it's looking less and less likely that we will see a translation of Valkyria Chronicles 3. It seems that Sega has completely given up on the PSP outside of Japan. Maybe if these up ports sell well, they might translate it and pack it in with 2 but my hopes are very very low.
...MOTHER FUCKER. 2 weeks ago I caved and bought a PSP GO, a tv-out cable, a matching DS3, and a cradle because I was tired of waiting for something like this.
Perhaps Sony will look at it more from a financial aspect rather than a pure sales perspective. As game budgets go up, exclusives die down. When you're spending a lot of money you want to put it on as many platforms as possible. There is zero incentive to make a PSP2 exclusive game rather than a 3DS/PSP2 or PSP2/360/PS3/PC. We're already seeing some publishers/developers limit themselves on the 3DS. Perhaps they offer the feature to Sony exclusive games. i.e you expand the potential market right off the bat. It also gives incentive to buy the PSN version which earns Sony the retail cut along with any licensing fees, making it far more beneficial for them. While you sell fewer PSP2's, you potentially gain more Sony exclusives which could push people towards buying a PS3 over a 360 if it doesn't get them to buy a PSP2 and gets people buying more games on Sony systems from the Sony store, all of which gets them more money.
Are you trying to say that PS3/NGP will basically just be the same platform? Buy Uncharted 3 or Uncharted Portable and you can play it on either system? Then no, I don't think there's even a remote chance of that happening, especially considering the functionality of each system (how does the PS3 emulate the touch screen/pad?) and the fact that developers would have to actually port their games between each system, rather than just emulate them, which is what it appears the PS3 will be doing with PSP games.
Or are you saying that going forward we'll see far less exclusives than there was on the PSP and a lot more multiplatform games? Then sure, I agree, but I think there's still plenty of room for exclusives in there, though I doubt mostly be small scale experiences and for the larger scale ones, Sony will have to be the main driver of them (which is something Sony's done really well with the PS3 but pretty horribly with the PSP).
...MOTHER FUCKER. 2 weeks ago I caved and bought a PSP GO, a tv-out cable, a matching DS3, and a cradle because I was tired of waiting for something like this.
this sucks.
Wait, wasn't PSN still down 2 weeks ago?
Yes. If you've got a standard PSP and UMDs, though..
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...MOTHER FUCKER. 2 weeks ago I caved and bought a PSP GO, a tv-out cable, a matching DS3, and a cradle because I was tired of waiting for something like this.
this sucks.
Wait, wasn't PSN still down 2 weeks ago?
Yes. If you've got a standard PSP and UMDs, though..
...MOTHER FUCKER. 2 weeks ago I caved and bought a PSP GO, a tv-out cable, a matching DS3, and a cradle because I was tired of waiting for something like this.
this sucks.
Wait, wasn't PSN still down 2 weeks ago?
Yes. If you've got a standard PSP and UMDs, though..
But.... he bought a GO....
I don't see the problem here. I have a Go as well.
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How was he going to play his Go without a PSN connection to download games?
EDIT: Or is there a UMD slot? I've never seen a Go outside the box.
I hope this practice carries over to the PSP2 so I don't have to buy one.
Oh yeah. It'll be even easier for them to port over NGP titles. I wasn't planning on getting one to begin with and this only strengthens my resolve to stay away from Sony portables. Why waste the money when the games will likely end up on PS3 anyway?
Way to make your portable irrelevant, Sony.
I'd understand it more if it were just MH3. Sony has now effectively told their costumers to not pick up an NGP. How the fuck can they be this incompetent?
I think I need new eyes. In the Monster Hunter video, other than the armor comparison shots (which were side by side, so you could see it clearly) I barely noticed the difference as the video transitioned from PSP to PS3. I mean, if I looked very hard I could see the little extra crispness, but...
I'd understand it more if it were just MH3. Sony has now effectively told their costumers to not pick up an NGP. How the fuck can they be this incompetent?
Why the unnecessary corporate rage?
I'm pretty sure that people who are interested in buying an NGP aren't interested solely because it will be able to play PSP games.
I'd understand it more if it were just MH3. Sony has now effectively told their costumers to not pick up an NGP. How the fuck can they be this incompetent?
Why the unnecessary corporate rage?
I'm pretty sure that people who are interested in buying an NGP aren't interested solely because it will be able to play PSP games.
And again, how is this any different from the 3DS being backwards compatible? Isn't that just saying that 'costumers' (who I assume have a sweet costume at that :P) should just not pick up a DS? I mean really, the only real difference is that in this case the backwards compatiblity is cross-platform, similar to PS1 games on the PSP/PS3.
If you want to argue that this is too early then you might have a point, considering the PSP's successor isn't even out yet, but really, it's not going to make a difference at all to the PSP's sales. Japan isn't suddenly going to switch back to being console focused and the PSP has been virtually dead in the west for at least a year now.
I think I need new eyes. In the Monster Hunter video, other than the armor comparison shots (which were side by side, so you could see it clearly) I barely noticed the difference as the video transitioned from PSP to PS3. I mean, if I looked very hard I could see the little extra crispness, but...
Did you see the one in 720p? Or just the standard youtube resolution? it's more noticeable with a proper video quality
I bought my go used, not new, and it came with a few games already on there. LBP, Socom 3, Tetris, and Killzone. I play those on my TV and it's pretty cool. But I haven't been able to buy the game I bought this entire setup for - MGS:PW. Not yet at least.
I should also have clarified that I've had a PSP-1000 since launch. It's not like I haven't had the ability to play these games. I bought this specifically so I could play them on my TV.
I'd understand it more if it were just MH3. Sony has now effectively told their costumers to not pick up an NGP. How the fuck can they be this incompetent?
Why the unnecessary corporate rage?
I'm pretty sure that people who are interested in buying an NGP aren't interested solely because it will be able to play PSP games.
And again, how is this any different from the 3DS being backwards compatible? Isn't that just saying that 'costumers' (who I assume have a sweet costume at that :P) should just not pick up a DS? I mean really, the only real difference is that in this case the backwards compatiblity is cross-platform, similar to PS1 games on the PSP/PS3.
If you want to argue that this is too early then you might have a point, considering the PSP's successor isn't even out yet, but really, it's not going to make a difference at all to the PSP's sales. Japan isn't suddenly going to switch back to being console focused and the PSP has been virtually dead in the west for at least a year now.
I think Sony is sending a message to its consumers that eventually all popular games will be ported to all systems. So, if someone was thinking of getting an NGP for the Uncharted game, they're simply not going to take the plunge and buy it because they now think Sony will probably end up porting it anyway. Sony can even pro-actively deny that NGP ports are coming. But, just like how Nintendo can't convince people there's no revision for 3DS in the works, Sony isn't going to be able to convince people that ports of NGP games aren't coming to PS3.
I bought my go used, not new, and it came with a few games already on there. LBP, Socom 3, Tetris, and Killzone. I play those on my TV and it's pretty cool. But I haven't been able to buy the game I bought this entire setup for - MGS:PW. Not yet at least.
I should also have clarified that I've had a PSP-1000 since launch. It's not like I haven't had the ability to play these games. I bought this specifically so I could play them on my TV.
You can play PSP games on a TV using a PSP 1000 if you track down an old PSP2TV mod kit. They haven't been sold in half a decade so they're pretty hard to find though. It adds a composite-out and DualShock port to the PSP, meaning you can play games in full screen using a wired DualShock or DualShock 2. Obviously it's limited to 480i (the image looks decent on am SDTV though), but it supports both 16:9 and 4:3 at fullscreen without having to worry about whether your TV can scale the image.
I think he means a second PSP, that has a UMD drive, to rip it to the memory card to put on the go?
Wait you can do this? Because I have the retail version of MGS:PW
If your Go is modded you can boot any game you want on it. If your Go is unmodded you can boot (almost) any game you want from it providing the filesize is under 728MB easily, and some that are larger than that depending on your PSN purchase history.
If you wanted to do everything legally you would need a way to read the data from the Peace Walker UMD that you purchased, which would mean your 1000 would have to be modded as well.
edit: CygnusZ, the majority of people don't buy handhelds because of their exclusives, they buy them because it's really hard to play a PS3 game while you're in a waiting room or on the bus. If every release from here on out was ported between the PS3, PSP, and NGP, people who want to buy a portable system will still buy an NGP.
You could release a handheld with a library comprised entirely of PS3 ports and people who wanted a handheld would still buy it because it'll fit in their pocket.
I think I need new eyes. In the Monster Hunter video, other than the armor comparison shots (which were side by side, so you could see it clearly) I barely noticed the difference as the video transitioned from PSP to PS3. I mean, if I looked very hard I could see the little extra crispness, but...
Did you see the one in 720p? Or just the standard youtube resolution? it's more noticeable with a proper video quality
I went for the external link to Japanese site, not the embedded youtube, yeah. Still requires me to pay a lot of atention to notice, except on the very close shots (such as armor shots) where the jaggies in the PSP version become noticeable. Other than that, though, I have trouble seeing much difference beyond an extra bit of sharpness that I have to look for to actually notice.
Maybe I just have a brain so used to filling in the blanks after twenty years of pixel gaming that I don't need such crisp definition, my mind just supplies the definition :P.
edit: CygnusZ, the majority of people don't buy handhelds because of their exclusives, they buy them because it's really hard to play a PS3 game while you're in a waiting room or on the bus. If every release from here on out was ported between the PS3, PSP, and NGP, people who want to buy a portable system will still buy an NGP.
You could release a handheld with a library comprised entirely of PS3 ports and people who wanted a handheld would still buy it because it'll fit in their pocket.
I think this is wrong. If people aren't buying consoles because of their exclusives, how do you explain the skyrocketing sales of DS with the release of Brain Training/Super Mario or PSP suddenly being sold out across Japan after the release of MH3?
I'd understand it more if it were just MH3. Sony has now effectively told their costumers to not pick up an NGP. How the fuck can they be this incompetent?
Why the unnecessary corporate rage?
I'm pretty sure that people who are interested in buying an NGP aren't interested solely because it will be able to play PSP games.
And again, how is this any different from the 3DS being backwards compatible? Isn't that just saying that 'costumers' (who I assume have a sweet costume at that :P) should just not pick up a DS? I mean really, the only real difference is that in this case the backwards compatiblity is cross-platform, similar to PS1 games on the PSP/PS3.
If you want to argue that this is too early then you might have a point, considering the PSP's successor isn't even out yet, but really, it's not going to make a difference at all to the PSP's sales. Japan isn't suddenly going to switch back to being console focused and the PSP has been virtually dead in the west for at least a year now.
I think Sony is sending a message to its consumers that eventually all popular games will be ported to all systems. So, if someone was thinking of getting an NGP for the Uncharted game, they're simply not going to take the plunge and buy it because they now think Sony will probably end up porting it anyway. Sony can even pro-actively deny that NGP ports are coming. But, just like how Nintendo can't convince people there's no revision for 3DS in the works, Sony isn't going to be able to convince people that ports of NGP games aren't coming to PS3.
First off, the PSP's been out for almost 7 years, so if the same thing happens with the NGP then they sure as hell won't be ported to the PS3, it'll be the PS4.
Secondly, if people are willing to wait 7 f'n years on the chance that NGP games will be ported to the PS4 then they were never going to buy a NGP in the first place. Again, it really is no different from skipping the Wii/DS because the Cafe/3DS will be backwards compatible with them anyway. Yeah sure, that's a great plan, if you're willing to wait 5-7 years for those new systems to actually come out.
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Well yeah, it's good for me because I have more games I can potentially play without getting another device. It's a plus for Playstation 3 and Playstation 3 owners but something that weakens Sony's handheld market. Yeah, I wasn't going to buy a PSP anyway, but look at TheSonicRetard. Had he known this was coming he probably wouldn't have bought a PSP Go.
I don't even get the point you're trying to make, sorry.
In Japan more people have PSPs than PS3s so it works both ways; encourage people who game exclusively on handhelds to pick up the (more expensive, finally not retailing at a loss) home console, netting an additional software sale to boot.
TheSonicRetard's case is a lot less likely to happen. The PSP's 7 years old and the PSPgo is no longer being manufactured afaik, so Sony can afford to downplay it.
Anyway, this is great news and it's good practice for the connectivity Sony promised the NGP would have with the PS3.
I had no idea they were bringing this game to XBLA. That's another PSP game I was mildly interested in, so this is good news for me!
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This is how I feel right now. Then again, this is how I felt when they announced DMC3: Special Edition with a better game so...
It's just business as usual.
Monster Hunter Tri came out on the Wii and sold 1 million copies, Monster Hunter Portable 3 came out on the PSP and sold 4.5 million. This isn't going to do a thing to the PSP in Japan, handhelds are kind there and something like this is not going to change anything.
Outside of Japan though (and I think maybe South Korea), the PSP is already dead and this is coming far too late to make any sizable effect to its sales. In fact, I think this might actually encourage publishers to localise games they wouldn't have bothered with otherwise, due to the dried up PSP market (like Valkyria Chronicles 3).
It's not going to be anywhere near every game.
It's more of a test bed for some of the shit they are planning with NGP.
(yes I know about ad-hoc party, but common)
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I'm not sure how much they could do this with NGP, with its front and back touch-screen, but this tactic, which I am now dubbing the Super Sonyboy Adapter approach, may come back to hurt their handheld business. If you've got to buy two versions of a game for any kind of connectivity, and it boils down to playing it on an NGP or a PS3, the greater ratio of people will want to play it on the console (from a Western perspective). I like it if their aim is to give the player a great choice in the matter, but I can't imagine this would boost the budding sales of the NGP in any way--it's great for the pre-existing PSP library, but selling a new system requires getting people interested in its own software titles.
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Type-0 exclusive Remaster version for NA. Hmm.
This whole remaster thing is a neat idea, and I was skeptical how the games would look until I saw the MH footage. Imagining Crisis Core and Dissidia looking like that would be awesome.
But I also think they aren't going full throttle with this thing. Instead of merely saying that these are PS3 versions of PSP games that share PSP saves, how about saying that these remaster versions are also compatible with the NGP? Then you've solved the issue of transferring UMD titles you already own, because now you have an incentive to re-purchase them (so long as you own a PS3). That would be awesome.
I'm also miffed they're still sticking with the ad-hoc system, since I own a PS3 that apparently doesn't support it (you need a version with built-in WiFi). Unless they change that requirement, I'm left in the cold once again.
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It's a higher-res port of a down-port from Wii's Monster Hunter 3 (tri). It has about twice the content (more monsters, more weapons) but there's no possibility any of the features cut in the down-port will come back; aside from the graphics, it's the exactly the same as the PSP game.
While your opinions may vary on most of the changes from Tri, the further-reduced monster HP and severely nerfed attack patterns of all the difficult monsters makes Portable 3rd the least challenging Monster Hunter game released by far. I know the difficulty is meant for you to be able to kill anything while waiting 5-10 minutes for a bus or train, but they really took it too far by making sure the all of the monster attack patterns just aren't threatening any longer. Well, except Diablos. He's still Diablos.
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I haven't played since the first one, back on the PS2. =/
I would definately prefer just a MH4 on the PS3, but I will probably settle for this for now.
There's rumors about a Portable 3rd G. If they're real, then let's hope it's for NGP/PS3 (and maybe Wii), runs the actual MH Tri engine with all of its features, keeps all the monsters from P3rd and Tri (with a few more of course), and gets completely rebalanced.
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For Capcom this is most likely a test model for the PS3. If it works you can so see MH4 being an NGP/PS3 exclusive. If this was true and Capcom and Sony were savvy they would include a 50% off downloading the PS3 version with every NGP purchase.
Not to mention that I absolutely love Monster Hunter now thanks to a certain german forumite.
He knows who he is.
Also, Crisis Core Final Mix.
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Sadly it's looking less and less likely that we will see a translation of Valkyria Chronicles 3. It seems that Sega has completely given up on the PSP outside of Japan. Maybe if these up ports sell well, they might translate it and pack it in with 2 but my hopes are very very low.
But I pretty much just got a psp for Monster Hunter and Final Fantasy Type 0. It would kind of be a bummer if they both end up on ps3.
Hopefully buying the hd version on psn will give you a free psp copy or something. I couldn't really complain if they did that.
Wait, wasn't PSN still down 2 weeks ago?
Are you trying to say that PS3/NGP will basically just be the same platform? Buy Uncharted 3 or Uncharted Portable and you can play it on either system? Then no, I don't think there's even a remote chance of that happening, especially considering the functionality of each system (how does the PS3 emulate the touch screen/pad?) and the fact that developers would have to actually port their games between each system, rather than just emulate them, which is what it appears the PS3 will be doing with PSP games.
Or are you saying that going forward we'll see far less exclusives than there was on the PSP and a lot more multiplatform games? Then sure, I agree, but I think there's still plenty of room for exclusives in there, though I doubt mostly be small scale experiences and for the larger scale ones, Sony will have to be the main driver of them (which is something Sony's done really well with the PS3 but pretty horribly with the PSP).
Yes. If you've got a standard PSP and UMDs, though..
But.... he bought a GO....
I don't see the problem here. I have a Go as well.
EDIT: Or is there a UMD slot? I've never seen a Go outside the box.
I'd understand it more if it were just MH3. Sony has now effectively told their costumers to not pick up an NGP. How the fuck can they be this incompetent?
Why the unnecessary corporate rage?
I'm pretty sure that people who are interested in buying an NGP aren't interested solely because it will be able to play PSP games.
And again, how is this any different from the 3DS being backwards compatible? Isn't that just saying that 'costumers' (who I assume have a sweet costume at that :P) should just not pick up a DS? I mean really, the only real difference is that in this case the backwards compatiblity is cross-platform, similar to PS1 games on the PSP/PS3.
If you want to argue that this is too early then you might have a point, considering the PSP's successor isn't even out yet, but really, it's not going to make a difference at all to the PSP's sales. Japan isn't suddenly going to switch back to being console focused and the PSP has been virtually dead in the west for at least a year now.
Did you see the one in 720p? Or just the standard youtube resolution? it's more noticeable with a proper video quality
Thought that was funny, given the Remaster news.
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I should also have clarified that I've had a PSP-1000 since launch. It's not like I haven't had the ability to play these games. I bought this specifically so I could play them on my TV.
Wait you can do this? Because I have the retail version of MGS:PW
I think Sony is sending a message to its consumers that eventually all popular games will be ported to all systems. So, if someone was thinking of getting an NGP for the Uncharted game, they're simply not going to take the plunge and buy it because they now think Sony will probably end up porting it anyway. Sony can even pro-actively deny that NGP ports are coming. But, just like how Nintendo can't convince people there's no revision for 3DS in the works, Sony isn't going to be able to convince people that ports of NGP games aren't coming to PS3.
You can play PSP games on a TV using a PSP 1000 if you track down an old PSP2TV mod kit. They haven't been sold in half a decade so they're pretty hard to find though. It adds a composite-out and DualShock port to the PSP, meaning you can play games in full screen using a wired DualShock or DualShock 2. Obviously it's limited to 480i (the image looks decent on am SDTV though), but it supports both 16:9 and 4:3 at fullscreen without having to worry about whether your TV can scale the image.
If your Go is modded you can boot any game you want on it. If your Go is unmodded you can boot (almost) any game you want from it providing the filesize is under 728MB easily, and some that are larger than that depending on your PSN purchase history.
If you wanted to do everything legally you would need a way to read the data from the Peace Walker UMD that you purchased, which would mean your 1000 would have to be modded as well.
edit: CygnusZ, the majority of people don't buy handhelds because of their exclusives, they buy them because it's really hard to play a PS3 game while you're in a waiting room or on the bus. If every release from here on out was ported between the PS3, PSP, and NGP, people who want to buy a portable system will still buy an NGP.
You could release a handheld with a library comprised entirely of PS3 ports and people who wanted a handheld would still buy it because it'll fit in their pocket.
I went for the external link to Japanese site, not the embedded youtube, yeah. Still requires me to pay a lot of atention to notice, except on the very close shots (such as armor shots) where the jaggies in the PSP version become noticeable. Other than that, though, I have trouble seeing much difference beyond an extra bit of sharpness that I have to look for to actually notice.
Maybe I just have a brain so used to filling in the blanks after twenty years of pixel gaming that I don't need such crisp definition, my mind just supplies the definition :P.
I think this is wrong. If people aren't buying consoles because of their exclusives, how do you explain the skyrocketing sales of DS with the release of Brain Training/Super Mario or PSP suddenly being sold out across Japan after the release of MH3?
First off, the PSP's been out for almost 7 years, so if the same thing happens with the NGP then they sure as hell won't be ported to the PS3, it'll be the PS4.
Secondly, if people are willing to wait 7 f'n years on the chance that NGP games will be ported to the PS4 then they were never going to buy a NGP in the first place. Again, it really is no different from skipping the Wii/DS because the Cafe/3DS will be backwards compatible with them anyway. Yeah sure, that's a great plan, if you're willing to wait 5-7 years for those new systems to actually come out.