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Will Libya become another Iraq?
Squall Leonhart
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What do you guys think about American and UN intervention in the Libyan Civil War? Personally I think we shouldn't have gotten involved at all, it isn't our fight. But since those bombs were already created, might as well use them for good anyway instead of letting them get old and having them scrapped, right? Anyway, do you guys think this will be another long conflict? Possibly even with US troops on Libyan soil, and not just "advisers"? That's how Vietnam started, with us sending military "advisers" to help South Vietnam. Do you think this will turn into another Iraq/Afghanistan/Vietnam?
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1) We have no troops on the ground.
2) The people actually do want our help.
So no, it won't.
He's started one, escalated three, and drawn down one. One of which (this one) is blatantly illegal.
so, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya. The other two must be Yemen and Pakistan? And those are legal because of the amorphous authorization to use force against 'terror' that Bush received back in 2001?
I'm not sure about the general legality of drone strikes with regards to the War Powers Act. Those might technically only be CIA operations which are covered under different legislation.
Am I reading this wrong or are you saying the Libya action is blatantly illegal?
Yup, has been for about two weeks. Needs Congressional authorization. Which is pro forma, basically, which is why it's not a huge deal.
he's probably relying on the constitutionality of the war powers resolution which says that Obama has to seek specific authorization from Congress after 60 days have elapsed after introducing the armed forces into hostilities. Note that no president since Nixon has accepted the constitutionality of the bill (not a terribly valid factoid, true), and the Supreme Court hasn't bothered to rule specifically on the issue.
But they have hinted that it might not conform to the constitutional specifications for Congressional action. 40 years ago. So who knows what they'd do today?
I'm too lazy to lime.
But lime.
What?
No...
If congress voted to remove ourselves from the venture, I think Obama would shrug his shoulders and pull our military out of there. He's been pretty tepid in his support of the venture.
The idea that this would become another Vietnam situation is simply laughable.
Given that I doubt that Gates is going entirely off the reservation when he warns NATO that we're tired of doing their heavy lifting, my suspicion is that we have little interest in pursuing NATO's goals for them.
Granted, we do kinda owe NATO for the whole Iraq debacle, but we should be even stevens after Libya. Right? Right? Bueller?
Too late.
Gah. What's the point of doing something like that?