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What the hell is wrong with me?

JadedJaded Registered User regular
edited June 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
I could use some help here from the PA group.

I’m a 32 year old male, 5’9”, 232 (more gut then muscle) who has absolutely no ambition right now.
Sex? Yeah it feels good, but I really don’t want it nearly as often as I used to.
Exercise? Used to do it every day, and then I fell off the wagon about 2 months ago… put back on 12 of the 20 pounds I lost.
Mental state? Not so good… I find myself short with people, or falsely projecting a good mood even though I am god damn miserable.
Sleep? Not too bad. Averaging 6 – 7 hours a night.
Job? Not bad… my short temper and lack of drive is really affecting it though. I’ve been at the same place just over 11 years now. I get great benefits, a good wage and steady hours with room to advance should I choose to.
Relationship? About the only thing I feel that is really going right, aside from the lack of sex, as I know she’s disappointed that I don’t want it nearly as much as she does. For frequency, I suppose I would say it averages about once every 2 weeks. She may correct me as I’m not using an alt to post this message.

Basically what it all comes down to is I just have no drive. I don’t want to do anything. If it were up to me I’d go home, eat, shower and sleep.
What could be driving this? I see these damn commercial’s for Low T and the wife bugs me playfully saying that sounds like me.
I turn to you PA people… I think it’s too early for a midlife crisis… I mean, I don’t find myself wanting a motorcycle and 18 year old girlfriend yet!

I reach out to you! Offer me your advice as I search around town for a new family doctor.

I can't think of anything clever.
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  • SliderSlider Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I don't know what is wrong with you. Only you know that. However, a Counselor could probably help with that, as well.

    Honestly, it just sounds like you need a hobby. I mean, come on. There has to be SOMETHING in life that you enjoy and find interesting.

    Weightlifters know that if their body has stopped responding, they've reached a point where they need to change or alter their workout. They need to shock their muscles to encourage further growth.

    It seems like you need to "shock" your life.

    Slider on
  • EddEdd Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Based on what you describe, you could well be experiencing some sort of chemical imbalance, but I wouldn't want to see you running for a medical solution just yet.

    I mean, you describe a pretty dead-on image of someone feeling the weight of his own inertia. It sounds like your life has been very static for a very long time. How do you respond when you entertain notions of radical change? Is it exciting or just...tiring?

    Sorry if this sounds facile, but have you tried making yourself conform to a fairly rigid work-out schedule? Gutting it out for a good two or three weeks and seeing how you feel about it? Having a regular outlet for self-improvement that will yield demonstrable results (given enough time and effort) can be a great self-propagating way to re-inject some enthusiasm into your life.

    Edd on
  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Go see a doctor.

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  • JadedJaded Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    The thought of new things just bores me. Had a job offer in a new position to consider, which should have at least raised an eyebrow... but I really just shrugged it off and said "M'eh".

    I was seeing a counselor awhile back and she basically said "Get out and do more..." which admitedly probably would help... I just can't find the desire to do it.

    I was on a workout routine... dropped about 30 pounds in 4 months... all from diet change and, amazingly, wii active. Now... I feel like I just can't be assed to get back on that horse.

    AngelHedgie, I appreciate the input, I really do, I'm just looking to draw from other peoples experiences here. I often find myself looking at the threads in thie forums and saying the exact same thing to myself about other people...
    I was seeing a family doctor, however on two consecutive appointments I was delayed over 90 minutes each time. My wife and I share a vehicle and I can't just "duck away" for 2 hours at a time. I actually walked out of my last appointment from the waiting room. I was told I was scheduled for 9:30... by 11:30 I was still waiting for the doctor for a follow up on some tests (which turned out being just fine). This shit just can't fly during a work day for me unfortunately... so as I hunt for a new family doctor I turn to you fine people.

    Jaded on
    I can't think of anything clever.
  • CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Lack of enjoyment in life, which is pretty much what you're describing, can be a symptom of depression. Irritability, low libido, could be other signs.

    You should get a check up with your doctor.

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  • wonderpugwonderpug Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    What kind of counselor did you see? You should see an actual licensed therapist. They can really help, and with more than just "get out more!" Your insurance may even cover it.

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  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    You sound somewhat depressed. Will it take a long time to get a new doctor? Are you using the scheduling difficulties as an excuse not to see one? Obviously you are having motivational issues, and that could be also impacting your motivation to get round to seeing a doctor.

    If your existing doctor can't do anything fast, maybe take a half day off to ensure you have the time to hang around waiting for the appointment. If your work won't allow you half a day off, maybe it's a high pressure environment that could be the root of your troubles.

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  • JadedJaded Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    wonderpug wrote: »
    What kind of counselor did you see? You should see an actual licensed therapist. They can really help, and with more than just "get out more!" Your insurance may even cover it.

    Absolutely licensed. The whole experience felt pretty shitty to be honest. I was initially set up with her through EAP (employee assistance program).

    Work does cover counselling as part of our benefits however, maybe it's time to look for a new one.

    Jaded on
    I can't think of anything clever.
  • wonderpugwonderpug Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Jaded wrote: »
    wonderpug wrote: »
    What kind of counselor did you see? You should see an actual licensed therapist. They can really help, and with more than just "get out more!" Your insurance may even cover it.

    Absolutely licensed. The whole experience felt pretty shitty to be honest. I was initially set up with her through EAP (employee assistance program).

    Work does cover counselling as part of our benefits however, maybe it's time to look for a new one.

    I'd highly recommend trying another one. Sounds like you got a stinker. There's a lot of different styles and approaches (and quality), and there's sure to be a good match for you.

    wonderpug on
  • RadicalTurnipRadicalTurnip Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    What did you used to enjoy doing when you were younger? Video games (presumably)? Sports? Crocheting? Fishing? Model Rockets? Swimming? Camping? Hair-dressing? Whatever it was that got your fire up, have you done any of that recently? Have you done any of it care-free recently, without worrying about all the other stuff in life. If you have some PTO saved up, consider taking a few days off and just trying to get back into a hobby or a leisure activity. This certainly isn't "therapeutic" advice, which I also recommend you take (it does sound an awful lot like depression), but even getting excited about something again can work wonders for people, sometimes.

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  • JadedJaded Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I used to video game quite a bit... still do between WoW, ME2, DA2 and assorted other games. I sit down to do it now and I play, but I get no real enjoyment from it.

    I swam, but I'm going to be honest... I'm not comfortable enough with my body to go swimming in public anymore.

    I have time off at the end of July, but thats with the wife and kids around and I do want to spend it with them. I just had a week off at the end of April (for my b-day) in which I did nothing overly constructive.

    Jaded on
    I can't think of anything clever.
  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Yeah i would get a second opinion if i were you, i'm no therapist but there seem to be some depression symptoms there. You definitely seem to be in a rut, whether that's due to the supposed depression or exacerbating it, i don't know. Try and find something new to do. I'm the same age as you, and it's easy to just come home from work, vegetate, go to sleep, rinse and repeat. You didn't mention anything social, do you hang out with friends at all? maybe a night away from the wife and kids will be good for you?

    Depression can be chemical, and it sounds like you are saying: I've got no reason to be depressed, so WTF? My mom has/had chemical depression, and no amount of talking to a therapist helped. once she got some meds she was much better, she's since gotten off meds (with doctor's approval) and is better than she was.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Jaded, your symptoms are pretty typical for depression. Do you have a history of this? Any major life events stressing you out?

    bowen on
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  • JadedJaded Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    To be honest outside of work neither my wife nor I have a lot of a social life.
    We moved to this city three years ago to be closer to her children (plus I got a sweet job transfer) and we've never really spread out roots out to establish a new social network.

    I was on effexor (sp) a couple years back but quit the treatment when the meds made me quite sick. I told my Dr. and more or less got a "Whatever" from her. No new drug to try.

    Jaded on
    I can't think of anything clever.
  • SilverEternitySilverEternity Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I personally have never found counselors to be of much help so I'm going to go against what many people are saying.

    However, I really do think you should force yourself to exercise more, possibly with your wife or a friend (i.e. going on a walk in the evening, starting a new active hobby, etc.). There have been a number of studies that show exercise as incredibly useful in treating depression/anxiety (I've actually had doctors tell me it can be as effective as medication in some cases).

    On the sex front, I think exercise can help. Personally I've always found sex much more enjoyable when I'm in better shape. Also, I think it's important to have sex even if you don't feel like it at the time because: a. it's good for your relationship b. I think the more you have sex the more you want to have sex c. it's a stress-reliever. Talk with your wife and see if there is a way you can spice things up or maybe let her know you need some extra seduction/foreplay to get going.

    Personally I think this shit is pretty common for the late twenties/early thirties crowd (or at least it is amongst a lot of my friends), things just get pretty boring unless you make a concerted effort to make life exciting.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Jaded wrote: »
    To be honest outside of work neither my wife nor I have a lot of a social life.
    We moved to this city three years ago to be closer to her children (plus I got a sweet job transfer) and we've never really spread out roots out to establish a new social network.

    I was on effexor (sp) a couple years back but quit the treatment when the meds made me quite sick. I told my Dr. and more or less got a "Whatever" from her. No new drug to try.

    You should probably find a new doctor, any doctor that thinks clinical depression is going to go away like that is crazy. You should see about getting back on one, even a different one, because what you described is really classic indicators for depression. Longstanding lethargy, meh feeling, decreased libido, etc. Short of diabetes, it really fits, especially considering your history.

    You can probably trace all this back to when you stopped taking it.

    bowen on
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  • ThundyrkatzThundyrkatz Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I can identify with the sex thing, lack of a libido and the wife playfully jabbing me when the testosterone commercials come on. My drive is lower then hers, and it bugs me. Probably more then it bugs her, because i feel like i am not holding up my end of the bargain. Also there is a lot of stress about knowing she wants it and i don't but i feel like i should do it.. blah blah blah. suffice to say it blows.

    I would say that you should stop flogging the dolphin if you are doing that, also try to cut out any Porn if you are doing that. That can help keep your attention focused on your wife as your sexual outlet. Also, try to have sex be non-distracting. you have kids so... not easy. but, try not to have the TV on if you do that, I recently stopped that and it has actually been a big help!

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  • JadedJaded Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Our kids are part time with us (hers from a previous marriage) so thats not so much a problem!
    The friendly handshake and porn I'll work on cutting out, see if that helps at all... it'll be like breaking a ritual though! When we do have sex it's in the good old bedroom (usually) which has no TV or computer, so no real distracting outlets. And yes, you more or less summed up how I feel in regards to that aspect of this whole mess.

    Jaded on
    I can't think of anything clever.
  • mellestadmellestad Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    How long has this been going on? Mild depression usually does resolve itself, with or without drugs, which might explain your doctor's 'meh' attitude. (At least that's what I remember from psych classes and all the little graphs of clinical outcomes). Obviously you aren't having a major depressive episode.

    Anyhow, I'd say you are in the midst of a mild depression. There are lots of different medications that a doctor might work with you on. I doubt counseling alone would do much, to be honest, but you never know...

    Other than that the only thing I can think of is 'try new stuff, meet new people'. Which is trite :)

    Good luck, dude! I know I've felt the same way before. It passed, I honestly can't say I did anything useful to help it along.

    mellestad on
  • MentalExerciseMentalExercise Indefenestrable Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Personally? When I'm feeling like I'm in that state where all the flavor seems to have just drained out of life, I just keep trying things until something clicks. I start with getting a little extra rest, being too tired for a long period of time makes me a bit depressed. Then I start trying something else every day. My favorite pizza, double pepperoni, extra sauce, extra crispy, ice cold coke. Re-read one of my most guilty pleasure novels. Check out that grade A tv show everybody seems to love, I'd recommend Modern Family, but if you like drama maybe The Wire which people love. Learn something new that you've always thought was cool. Learn a little cool slight of hand like a coin trick. Don't tell anyone about it then bust it out self deprecatingly some time and people love it, which is fun. Instead of playing some current videogame, try playing one you loved in middle school!

    That list may or may not be things that seem like fun to me. Maybe your list should be things that seem like fun to you instead.

    MentalExercise on
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  • KidDynamiteKidDynamite Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I agree with a lot of the posters. Unfortunately, I know what you mean.

    Sometimes I just force myself to do things, and surprisingly "fake it till you make it" works for me while having fun too!

    I never actually want to work out, but I just focus on the time period after my work out, to kind of zone out through it. It's amazing how much better and focused I feel afterwards, and seeing results helps a lot.

    I also instituted a rule lately, that unless I had a good reason (i.e. had to work, something already happening, etc...) I would not say no to any invite. Even if its just a friends get together, go by for half an hour, and socialize. When the only people you see are co-workers, and your SO, it's hard to remember how to act in groups of peers.

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  • Zombie NirvanaZombie Nirvana Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    You should start surrounding yourself with more positive vibes. A start? Not naming yourself Jaded. Not sure if that's just for this post but each positive/negative action you take can start to snowball you in that direction. You've got to decide that you're going to be happy. It's not a state you exist in, but an ongoing decision. :)

    New experiences and people are the only things that will keep most humans happy. You're stuck and it sounds like you have been for some time. You just have to decide to not be stuck. I know it sounds cliche, but it's true. Get off your ass.

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  • ThundyrkatzThundyrkatz Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Good point, sex in the bedroom can become routine and expected. I find that i am least in the mood at bed time, but that is moment of highest expectation! So, double whammy.

    At this point, she is probably good to go almost all the time. I suggest that the next time the mood hits you, let her know that you are ready to go and attack! You will be in the moment, and it will be great and you both will be happy. I suspect that she is stressed out because she knows its a hot button topic, so making a pass at you and being shot down is no fun for her.

    Also, i read a study that showed that watching porn can essentially desensitize you to normal sex. So, i stopped watching it "almost all the time" and... it works. in my case anyway.

    Getting over that hump "pun intended" will do wonders for the rest of your issues.

    Thundyrkatz on
  • mellestadmellestad Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Also, you might try more sleep. If you are getting '6-7' hours, does that really mean '6'? It might be an interesting experiment for you to consciously block out 9 hours of sleep for three nights in a row and see how you feel on the fourth day.

    mellestad on
  • jefe414jefe414 "My Other Drill Hole is a Teleporter" Mechagodzilla is Best GodzillaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I'd say you need to get more sleep, go back on an exercise regimen (doesn't have to be anything strenuous, hell, grab the wife and go for a 30 minute walk every night before dinner), and change up (i.e. improve) your eating habits. If your mood doesn't improve though these types of general life/health improvements, I'd go see a therapist.

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  • JadedJaded Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Went to the Dr. today. She gave me Wellbutrin and 1o days worth of Lorazepam. She also suggested seeing a shrink if I can get the cash to put towards one.

    Starting on 150mg of Wellbutrin a day for 10 days then going to 300mg a day. To review in 3 months.

    Jaded on
    I can't think of anything clever.
  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Good luck Jaded. I hope it works out for you bro.

    bowen on
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  • WildEEPWildEEP Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Words of the wise - complete the regimen.....don't skip out, even if you think its not working.

    If you complete the regimen and still feel the same, followup with your doctor...and they'll try you out on something different or adjust dosage levels. If you start getting worse in any way, call the doctor immediately. Remember that these are brain meds - if the stuff takes a hard left turn, you'll be out naked in midtown traffic, covered in green jello, and hunting leprechauns with your penis spear.

    In short... Take the meds, and your condition, seriously.

    WildEEP on
  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I felt similar prior to going to the docs and it turned out to be my thyroid. Underactive and thus slowing down my metabolism. It reduces labido and can make you quite lethargic and apathetic. Of course I was also exhausted all of the time so it's less likely to be that.

    Oh, just spotted your post. Good luck!

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  • JadedJaded Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Well hello 8.2K bike ride to work into the wind and rain this morning.
    Took one of the Lorazepam's last night and slept like a baby. I have this nasty habit of waking up between 2 and 3 in the morning every day, this didn't happen last night... must admit my legs felt like jello and my rear felt like a bunch of men had their way with me... but I made it!
    Looked outside this morning and said to myself... "Self, if you can do this today, you can do this anyday."

    Jaded on
    I can't think of anything clever.
  • MentalExerciseMentalExercise Indefenestrable Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Jaded wrote: »
    Well hello 8.2K bike ride to work into the wind and rain this morning.
    Took one of the Lorazepam's last night and slept like a baby. I have this nasty habit of waking up between 2 and 3 in the morning every day, this didn't happen last night... must admit my legs felt like jello and my rear felt like a bunch of men had their way with me... but I made it!
    Looked outside this morning and said to myself... "Self, if you can do this today, you can do this anyday."

    Blah blah blah, look at me improving my life and shit. You son of a bitch!








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