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Lasik eye surgery

JadedJaded Registered User regular
edited August 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
Good day H/A. I come to you again!
I've been wearing glasses for the last 13 years of my life and am looking into the potential of laser eye surgery.
My left eye is lazy and wanders, my right eye is decent, but strains as I tend to focus more out of it then using my left eye.
My right eye is not 20 / 20, my left eye, for all intents and purposes is blind as I've just more or less learned to not use it.
Does anyone with previous knowledge know if laser eye surgery could correct this deficency?

If I did get the surgery what kind of receovery would I be looking at (no pun intended).

I can't think of anything clever.
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  • AwkAwk Registered User regular
    Perfectly fixable. You might be a candidate, only a doctor can tell you. Go to a respectable clinic and get tested for candidacy. As with all surgery, there are risks involved. In my opinion the benefit highly outweigh the risk for laser surgery. You might walk away with perfect vision, but not all candidates do. Some are asked to return for adjustment surgery.

    One of the best decisions in my life. YMMV!!

  • OpposingFarceOpposingFarce Registered User regular
    You have to talk to a doctor if you are applicable. I imagine you are.

    And yes, I absolutely love Lasik. I got it a few months ago. The operation was a complete success, and it takes less than 10 minutes, closer to 5. Be warned, though, that during the operation there is a period of around 5 seconds you will go completely blind. My brother had his done years before me, so I knew to expect it.

    Also, it takes about a full month or two for your vision to heal. You're completely functional, but it will be a tad blurry. Eventually they ease you off medicated drops and your vision returns. I'm still taking non prescription drops for dryness though. Dryness can pester your for 5-6 months, and this is the norm.

    Oh, and after the operation your eyes will hurt for the day. Just sleep it off. You can't read or go on the computer anyways, your vision will be awful right after.

  • CangoFettCangoFett Registered User regular
    I got lasik about a year ago. My experiences were similar to opposing. Its real uncomfortable for a day or so, just sleep it off. Everything was perfect for me within about 24 hours, except for halos/starbursts, which slowly went away over the course of a couple months. The first night out was crazy though. I still get *minor* halo/starbursts if my eyes are dry and i've been awake for a long time and its a really high contrast area, like bright lights at night. But generally its not noticeable, and many people dont get them at all.

    My lasik center didnt charge me a dime until the day of the operation. Had 2 consultations beforehand, one as a preliminary thing to see if I was a candidate at all, and another to get the exact measurements to get ready for the operation. Everything was explained very clearly too me. Be wary of a place that just kinda rushes you through the process.

  • Conroy BumpasConroy Bumpas Registered User regular
    if you have no sight in the lazy eye then lasic wont do anything. it sounds like you are amblopic. thats where the brain ignores that eye because it dosnt work right. if that the case and you are over the age of 7 then nothing can be done. surgery could correct the sight in the other eye . bit if you only have 1 good eye. its down to weather you want to take the risk.

    Please note I cannot be held responsible for any mental, physical, emotional, spiritual, karma, dharma, metaphysical, religious, philosophical, Logical , Ethical, Aesthetical, or financial damage caused by this post
  • JadedJaded Registered User regular
    if you have no sight in the lazy eye then lasic wont do anything. it sounds like you are amblopic. thats where the brain ignores that eye because it dosnt work right. if that the case and you are over the age of 7 then nothing can be done. surgery could correct the sight in the other eye . bit if you only have 1 good eye. its down to weather you want to take the risk.

    I can seeout of my left eye, it's just that if both eyes are open I really favour my right eye. I can close the right eye and see "decently". I guess as an example I typed this whole reply with my right eye closed. My right eye kept wanting to open, as I favour it quite a bit, but I can funtion for short amounts of time without it.

    I can't think of anything clever.
  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    yeah consultations are free at 99% of the places (I wouldn't go to a place that wanted money up front anyways) you would go. You can even get a prelim from your normal eye doctor. If it turns out they can help you, recovery is a breeze. They gave me a vicodin right before the procedure, it took all of 10 minutes and i could actually see way better right away. However, due to the vic, i could barely keep my eyes open. You get a little plastic eye cover (they look like bret the hitman hart's sunglasses, if you ever watched WWF), and you go to sleep with it on, when I woke up the next day i felt no pain, i was a bit sensitive to bright light, but nothing sunglasses wouldn't fix. went to the eye doc the next day for a follow up, I was 20/20.

    I get halos and stuff occasionally as people have stated, but well worth never having to worry about/buy glasses again.

    I'm talking LASIK here, there are a few different kinds of surgeries i think, so take this with a grain of salt if you are a candidate for a different one. I got it done like 6 years ago, and they mentioned a surgery that had potentially better results, but it was more expensive, and recovery was way longer or something... they said in my case it probably wouldn't make much difference so i didn't even think twice.

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  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    dangit....

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  • JadedJaded Registered User regular
    yeah consultations are free at 99% of the places (I wouldn't go to a place that wanted money up front anyways) you would go. You can even get a prelim from your normal eye doctor. If it turns out they can help you, recovery is a breeze. They gave me a vicodin right before the procedure, it took all of 10 minutes and i could actually see way better right away. However, due to the vic, i could barely keep my eyes open. You get a little plastic eye cover (they look like bret the hitman hart's sunglasses, if you ever watched WWF), and you go to sleep with it on, when I woke up the next day i felt no pain, i was a bit sensitive to bright light, but nothing sunglasses wouldn't fix. went to the eye doc the next day for a follow up, I was 20/20.

    I get halos and stuff occasionally as people have stated, but well worth never having to worry about/buy glasses again.

    I'm talking LASIK here, there are a few different kinds of surgeries i think, so take this with a grain of salt if you are a candidate for a different one. I got it done like 6 years ago, and they mentioned a surgery that had potentially better results, but it was more expensive, and recovery was way longer or something... they said in my case it probably wouldn't make much difference so i didn't even think twice.

    My god! I could be part of the Hart Foundation? Sign me up!
    Seriously though, the company here (Lasik MD) states that initial consultations are free... what could it hurt?
    Also they give away one free surgery every 3 months, so I tossed my name in the hat for that as well... maybe I'll get lucky!

    I can't think of anything clever.
  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    When I looked into this I was told they provide a gel for when you slept. I don't wear contacts because I just can't bring myself to touch my eyes, so that sorta stopped me cold.

    Anybody have something like this?

    Nod. Get treat. PSN: Quippish
  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    I had two sets of eyedrops, one seemed a bit thicker than the other buy i wouldn't have called it "gel." i certainly didn't have to apply it with my fingers. In fact do NOT touch your eyes for a good while, even with them closed.

  • mr_michmr_mich Mmmmagic. MDRegistered User regular
    Nobody's mentioned how they have to cut open a flap of your cornea? That's the dealbreaker for me. I have coworkers/family members that had Lasik, and love it. They said the whole cornea-cutting isn't really painful, I just can't fathom seeing it happen. It takes two full-grown men to keep my eyelids open at the optometrist for eyedrops. If a doctor put a cigar-cutter thing by my eye to slice open a flap I'd probably punch her right in the vagina.

  • mullymully Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    I had exactly the same eye issues that you are describing. I had lasik in January 2010 and have absolutely no regrets, and 20/10 vision.

    @mr_mich you can't see it happen. everything's blurry when you're getting it done - you barely even feel any pressure. and they use a really specific tool. the weirdest part to me was the miniature squeegee they use to put the flap back down.

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  • mr_michmr_mich Mmmmagic. MDRegistered User regular
    I heard that too.

    So wait, you don't actually see them slice open your eye?

  • mullymully Registered User regular
    nah. it just looks like they're looking at you, and pressing something down. that's all. you can't make out much of anything with all the eyedrops they give you.

  • CangoFettCangoFett Registered User regular
    In PRK they actually scrape the top off the eyeball

    In intralase they dont cut it with a blade, but with a second laser.

    They use a plastic looking thing to keep your eye open as well.

    I had 2 sets of eyedrops I had to use. One for the weekend, the other for 2 weeks, then just regular eyedrops as needed for dry eyes.

  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    mr_mich wrote:
    Nobody's mentioned how they have to cut open a flap of your cornea? That's the dealbreaker for me. I have coworkers/family members that had Lasik, and love it. They said the whole cornea-cutting isn't really painful, I just can't fathom seeing it happen. It takes two full-grown men to keep my eyelids open at the optometrist for eyedrops. If a doctor put a cigar-cutter thing by my eye to slice open a flap I'd probably punch her right in the vagina.

    I'm pretty close to you there, I can handle eyedrops, but barely. The place I talked to said they'd prescribe something like Valium so you really wouldn't give a fuck about what was happening.

    Nod. Get treat. PSN: Quippish
  • mr_michmr_mich Mmmmagic. MDRegistered User regular
    One of these days I'll get over my eye-touching phobia and consider Lasik. By then hopefully it will be a bit cheaper.

    Until then, I stick with the air-puff glaucoma tests instead of the UV cone thing.

  • CycloneRangerCycloneRanger Registered User regular
    I had PRK 6 months ago and asked a very similar question on this very forum prior to my surgery. PRK is different from lasik in that no flap is created (the corneal flap created during lasik is permanent), but the discomfort is greater and the healing process is many months instead of days. In PRK the "skin" of the eye (the epithelium) is removed either chemically or mechanically and the cornea is ablated directly from the surface. The epithelium later grows back. Lasik involves the creation of a flap and subsequent ablation of underlying material. I only have first-hand experience with PRK, but some parts of it will apply to either procedure so I'll tell you what I experienced.

    Devoutly Apathetic is correct in that my surgeon prescribed valium (along with two other tranquilizers). The purpose of these is both to numb the pain (for which purpose local anaesthetic is also used) and to help calm the patient so that they can look directly into the laser during the entire procedure--wiggling your eyes is, obviously, to be avoided.

    Due to a communication error between the surgeon and myself I ended up not taking any of these medications and was fully aware during the surgery. It was really not that bad. First you'll lie back on the table and the surgeon will prop your eye open with a plastic tool before applying anaesthetic. A technician will wash your eye periodically with saline so you needn't worry about it drying out (or even worry about blinking--I was encouraged to try to blink whenever I felt the need; it's futile anyway). This bit was actually really uncomfortable because the saline solution was cold as hell; no idea if there's a reason for that or if most people just don't notice. The surgeon will then attach a little machine with a suction cup to the surface of your eye* (I'm guessing this part is consistent between PRK and lasik--or at least those types of lasik using a physical keratome to create the flap; newer procedures can accomplish this with another laser). That thing hurt like a bitch--moreso than anything else, in fact. To get a good seal the surgeon will apply a lot of pressure to your eye; the pressure was sufficient in my case to interrupt the blood flow to my retina, causing my vision to temporarily fail in that eye. There may be some temporary cosmetic damage (I had a mild subconjunctival hemorrhage in my left eye) as a result. The suction-cup machine has a little blade on the end of it that spins around your eye, cutting through the epithelium and then removing it. The actual "cutting" bit is completely painless--there are few (if any) nerves of the right type to perceive pain in that part of your eye and the surgeon has by this time used a local anaesthetic anyway.

    After that, the surgeon swung the laser arm into place and I was instructed to stare unwaveringly at the small light in the center of the laser apparatus. The ablation took a little under 40 seconds. It was more difficult than I expected to avoid any movements during this period (I think I was getting a little nervous), but nothing too tough. This part is probably much easier with the tranquilizers, and I'm told that the laser itself will automatically shut off if you move your eye past some threshold. As the laser clicks away you'll notice an awful smell--it's a very intense "burning hair" type of odor. That's your cornea vaporizing. Neat!

    The healing processes for PRK and Lasik are quite different, so I won't go into that in any real detail unless someone wants to hear it. Overall I'd say the surgery itself was pretty simple and easy. It was actually very cool to be alert for the whole thing and to see my vision change as layers were removed or ablated, and to be able to ask the surgeon any questions that popped into my mind. I did keep thinking back to that scene in St:TNG where Picard is assimilated--you know the one. As a kid I found that scene frightening, but it no longer bothers me.


    *This is for the mechanical epithelium removal version of PRK. Because the surgeon was unable to get a seal on one of my eyes with the little suction cup armature I ended up having the old-fashioned version (in which an alcohol solution is used to degrade the epithelium, which is subsequently removed with forceps) on one eye and the above-described procedure on the other. They differ only in the method used to remove the epithelium.

  • mr_michmr_mich Mmmmagic. MDRegistered User regular
    I almost vomited reading that.

    (But thanks, it was certainly informative)

  • WulfWulf Disciple of Tzeentch The Void... (New Jersey)Registered User regular
    I think the worst part of my LASIK experience was with my left eye. They had a really hard time getting a good seal... and let me tell you what, each time they re-tried sealing? Yeah, felt like the longest punch to the face ever. But totally worth it to be able to go outside on rainy days, or fall asleep reading something and not wake up with bend glasses :lol:

    Everyone needs a little Chaos!
  • SpongeCakeSpongeCake Registered User regular
    mr_mich wrote:
    One of these days I'll get over my eye-touching phobia and consider Lasik. By then hopefully it will be a bit cheaper.

    Until then, I stick with the air-puff glaucoma tests instead of the UV cone thing.

    I had a massive eye phobia which is why I never wore contacts. Got fed up with glasses and thought "fuck it, it's only ten minutes of horror, then a life of good vision". Got the LASIK, and not only did I have awesome vision, my phobia was also totally cured.

    I also got a huge, badass eyeball bruise which made me look like the terminator.

  • mullymully Registered User regular
    @devoutlyapathetic & @mr_mich - just wanted to let you both know that prior to my lasik, i not only had never put in contact lenses, but i also couldn't stand eye drops - couldn't touch my eye - would flinch if i hand got within a foot of my face. and i was fine!

  • SneakertSneakert Registered User regular
    I've been thinking about LASIK because I can't seem to get contacts in. Not that i'm afraid to touch my eyes, cause I'm not. *touches eyeball*
    For some reason the moment a contact lens touches my eyeball it triggers an unstoppable reflex of my eyelids and it immediately falls out again. Well the reason is clear; my eyes dont like stuff in them. But it's annoying nonetheless.

    Anyway; LASIK. I'm worried because I read somewhere that it's strongly adviced not to do martial arts after LASIK because your eyes will be much easier to damage for the rest of your life. I really enjoy doing Krav Maga and it gets really rough so thats a dilemma. Specially since I can't wear glasses during Krav Maga (for obvious reasons) and im unable to get contacts in. This results in always having to stand close to the trainer at all times to see the techniques etc.

    blegh

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