some times a dude (that ain't me, I'm goddamned immortal) just gets a cancer

Vixx

oh god Rank

neat storytelling and puzzles

get him a DS and make him play Phoenix Wright

not very cinematic sure but I hope you get what I am getting at here

Macro9

Yeah, Enslaved is a fun game. It's short, has nice gameplay, looks good, and has some very nice environments and such that draw you into it. I ended up renting it after playing the demo and taking Raijin's suggestion on actually playing the full game, and I had a nice time.

Blake T

Enslaved visually is pretty amazing.

Ledneh

I really wanted to say Demon's/Dark Souls for the way their stories are presented, but then I read the difficulty clause and, uh


yeah

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Vivixenne wrote:

oh god Rank

neat storytelling and puzzles

get him a DS and make him play Phoenix Wright

not very cinematic sure but I hope you get what I am getting at here

yes

Pony

i don't understand dark souls in the same way i don't understand genital piercing

it's just a thing some people are into that they enjoy and insist has benefits and i just see as painful and unpleasant and unattractive

Macro9

After playing Enslaved I learned that I shouldn't worry so much about DmC.

Vixx

also throw a couple of good JRPGs in there for flavour... I know you said that he might not be into them but Lost Souls comes to mind as it has a GREAT story and totally engaging characters.

Ledneh

Damnit I never did actually finish RDR... think I got to Mexico then a malaise settled in for some reason

Blake T

Ledneh wrote:

Damnit I never did actually finish RDR... think I got to Mexico then a malaise settled in for some reason

Mexico is that one game's flaw.

With the exception of the impasse scene.

Vixx

Mexico is a pretty common gamekiller in RDR

Pony

i never finished RDR's singleplayer because the Mexico section of the game was all full of unpleasant shit and i was like

fuck it i'm out

multiplayer is pretty boss though, still do that sometimes

The Geek

Metroid Prime tells a great story, but in a different way than most games.

Final Fantasy Tactics has an exellcent story, if he can wade through the localization issues. I heard that the PSP version cleaned that up, though.

Blake T

To be fair, Mexico was a comment on actual mexico.

As in, the are all as bad as each other.

But you don't need to spend ten hours making a point.

Ledneh

Oh, if he likes games for stressin yon noggin (you DID say Myst) a little bit, get him Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective for DS

Cabanela demands it

Blake T

The Geek wrote:

Metroid Prime tells a great story, but in a different way than most games.

oh yeah.

Totally.

Pony

RDR's Mexico section made me go

"jesus john marsden has like no moral code whatsoever, he just sorta trundles along as the plot demands"

The Lovely Bastard

I didn't do much in Mexico

I am sure there was probably things to do there

I was just burned out from doing so much already and now here's a bunch more you can do only in mexico it is like the game started over again

I guess I was hoping there would be less to do and it would be almost a bullet train to the finish

but, no

Note: I am really bad at open world games. I just don't want that many options, dangit

Pony

mexico like, went out of its way to make you feel like you were starting over and were back to being a worth-nothing piece of shit

Beef Avenger

Pony wrote:

RDR's Mexico section made me go

"jesus john marsden has like no moral code whatsoever, he just sorta trundles along as the plot demands"

Rockstar syndrome

A Dabble Of Thelonius

The Longest Journey. Fantastic story telling.

Curse of Monkey Island.

WeedLordVegeta

Syberia.

Vixx

Crystal Key is super old, but was a great Myst-like puzzle game. I honestly do not remember a thing about the story, however.

Buttlord

Pony wrote:

the civ games are not for me

it took me several iterations of the civ games to come to this conclusion, which is unfortunate

but they are just not for me

I thought the same thing until I played Civ V and got science, culture, and whatever the one where you crush everyone beneath your heel, all in the same game.

Quoth

I know people have already suggested them but I would like to second Heavy Rain and Fallout 3 as excellent examples of what video games can do/be

The good thing about Fallout is it can be played in third person, which reduces nausea (for me at least)

Baroque And Roll

Orikaeshigitae wrote:

Cinematic experiences:

Heavy Rain
LA Noire
Beyond Good and Evil
Shadow Complex
Silent Hill 2 (good for slow reflexes)
Fallout 3: New Vegas
Dark Souls

Neat Storytelling:
The Last Express (very myst-like, he'll love it)
Blue Lacuna
King of the Dragon Pass
...others. most of what i got right now is text adventures

THis is a good post.

A great post, even.

:^:

Baroque And Roll

Macro9 wrote:

After playing Enslaved I learned that I shouldn't worry so much about DmC.

Yes.

Yes you fucking should.

Locked at 30fps, bullet-time Devil Trigger, only three melee weapons, "finishers" that slow down combat, retconned story, awful art direction, etc.

Artreus

If you want him to see how cinematic games have become, the Uncharted series would probably be the best games to show that off. Shit is beautiful

naengwen

EDIT: whoosh wrong screen

Macro9

Baroque And Roll wrote:

Macro9 wrote:

After playing Enslaved I learned that I shouldn't worry so much about DmC.

Yes.

Yes you fucking should.

Locked at 30fps, bullet-time Devil Trigger, only three melee weapons, "finishers" that slow down combat, retconned story, awful art direction, etc.

Still not worried.

Initially I was, but that's all gone now.

Feels good, man.

Slider

Orikaeshigitae wrote:

Cinematic experiences:

Heavy Rain
LA Noire
Beyond Good and Evil
Shadow Complex
Silent Hill 2 (good for slow reflexes)
Fallout 3: New Vegas
Dark Souls

Neat Storytelling:
The Last Express (very myst-like, he'll love it)
Blue Lacuna
King of the Dragon Pass
...others. most of what i got right now is text adventures

Heavy Rain is a good one, as is Dark Souls.

I would also recommend God of War 3, to give him a taste of what that's like, Dead Space, and the Force Unleashed...because being a Jedi is fucking awesome.

naengwen

So he's got a PS3, then? And you want to demonstrate the cinematic impact of games to a person who doesn't play games all that much?

Get him Flower.

Edit: that's not a request, or a suggestion. It's a demand. Accessible enough to ease him into playing console games, no consequences so he can figure out objectives without running into a game over screen every minute, cinematic escapist experience, procedural music to demonstrate the merits of the tech, eye/earcandy to attract visitors and nurses to the scene.

So yeah. Get him Flower.

CorporateLogo

Pony wrote:

i don't understand dark souls in the same way i don't understand genital piercing

it's just a thing some people are into that they enjoy and insist has benefits and i just see as painful and unpleasant and unattractive

It's not really any harder than the old Contra games

I do hate the way everyone talks up the difficulty, because if you take your time doing things ingame it's not really all that bad

Ledneh

I've never actually played any of the Uncharted games

Is this something I should correct?

Dead Legend

The Geek wrote:

Metroid Prime tells a great story, but in a different way than most games.

Final Fantasy Tactics has an exellcent story, if he can wade through the localization issues. I heard that the PSP version cleaned that up, though.

isn't FFT out on the app store now?

i imagine with an ipad it'd be pretty good

(apparently that version hasn't been released yet)

naengwen

FFT for the iPhone/iPad would prolly just frustrate him.

Metroid Prime's a good one, too. If you're going that route, be sure that copy of the Orange Box gets to him so he can see Half Life 2.

EDIT: also for the PC games, self-explanatory but make sure if he gets copies from someone else that they're not buggy as shit. Game crashes are a real mood killer.

Dead Legend

i haven't tried it yet

i have an iphone, but 16 bucks for FFT is making me flinch (and it's my favorite goddamn final fantasy game ever)

Tommy2Hands

beyond good and evil for sure

naengwen

Dead Legend wrote:

i haven't tried it yet

i have an iphone, but 16 bucks for FFT is making me flinch (and it's my favorite goddamn final fantasy game ever)

I know, it's mine too. It's still just a dumbed down port of the PSP version, and the bugs they claimed to fix are just kludges that appeared from side effects of the algorithms necessary for iPhone functionality. In other words, you can rotate the screen however you want, but the framerate's fucked the whole time, sound effects are watered down like crazy, and casting is just horrible.

Point is, best experience is still the PSX version. Even with the crappy localization.

Futore

BMX XXX

Paladin

make sure the game can be played in short bursts