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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Yeah they definately have a lot more combatants in fights, and you have more to do. Though I hate knife guys, their damn three hits of doom always tend to catch me when I'm in a bad place. Especially in challenge rooms.

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  • ZafinaZafina Registered User regular
    Am I the only person who doesn't like the catwoman segments? I mean she plays fine. I would just rather be batman all the time.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Zafina wrote:
    Am I the only person who doesn't like the catwoman segments? I mean she plays fine. I would just rather be batman all the time.

    I thought they were a nice diversion, and she plays different enough from batman that it didn't feel like "Batman minus gadgets". My only problem with her was dudes with guns ripped her up and when she was caught she didn't have a lot of outs, it was just hope you can run away before a dude guns you down.

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  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote:
    Huh, I guess I could buy this Robin as 18 or so. So what's Tim doing now in the comics now that Jerkface Robin has taken over and Dick's back to being Nightwing?

    He's doing his Red Robin thing / leading the Teen Titans. His new costume is kind of terribad: redrobinreboot.jpg

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
  • Delta AssaultDelta Assault Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Preacher wrote:
    Zafina wrote:
    Am I the only person who doesn't like the catwoman segments? I mean she plays fine. I would just rather be batman all the time.

    I thought they were a nice diversion, and she plays different enough from batman that it didn't feel like "Batman minus gadgets". My only problem with her was dudes with guns ripped her up and when she was caught she didn't have a lot of outs, it was just hope you can run away before a dude guns you down.

    What? Dude, just use her whip, it's seriously good. A batarang will stun a guy for a sec, but the whip automatically knocks the guy down for a ground takedown. Abuse that shit. Three guys with guns can be whipped to the ground in a matter of seconds.

    The only issue I have with Catwoman is that it's a lot more annoying and time consuming to roam around the city because she lacks the cape and grapnel boost.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote:
    Huh, I guess I could buy this Robin as 18 or so. So what's Tim doing now in the comics now that Jerkface Robin has taken over and Dick's back to being Nightwing?

    He's doing his Red Robin thing / leading the Teen Titans. His new costume is kind of terribad: redrobinreboot.jpg

    My god thats awful. Like birdman terrible.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    What? Dude, just use her whip, it's seriously good. A batarang will stun a guy for a sec, but the whip automatically knocks the guy down for a ground takedown. Abuse that shit.

    The only issue I have with Catwoman is that it's a lot more annoying and time consuming to roam around the city because she lacks the cape and grapnel boost.

    But it was a lot more visually fun to hit guys...

    Later on I got crazy good at her stealth takedowns which are faster than batmans and (understandably) she seems to be able to get the drop on thugs a lot easier.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote:
    Huh, I guess I could buy this Robin as 18 or so. So what's Tim doing now in the comics now that Jerkface Robin has taken over and Dick's back to being Nightwing?

    He's doing his Red Robin thing / leading the Teen Titans. His new costume is kind of terribad: redrobinreboot.jpg

    Ergh. Ah well, at least he's not passing around Starfire like an anatomically correct blow-up doll like Antihero Robin.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Antihero robin? Starfire? Man I'm glad I don't really read comics. To me batman will always be burtons and TAS up to around season 4.

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  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Preacher wrote:
    cloudeagle wrote:
    Huh, I guess I could buy this Robin as 18 or so. So what's Tim doing now in the comics now that Jerkface Robin has taken over and Dick's back to being Nightwing?

    He's doing his Red Robin thing / leading the Teen Titans. His new costume is kind of terribad: snip

    My god thats awful. Like birdman terrible.

    Yeah. My favorite Robin / Red Robin costume ever is the one Rocksteady used in this game. The hooded cape and buzzcut work surprisingly well.

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
  • JoolanderJoolander Registered User regular
    I have officially played this game too much

    I just saw a security camera on my way to lunch and my immediate thought was throw a batarang

  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote:
    Zafina wrote:
    Am I the only person who doesn't like the catwoman segments? I mean she plays fine. I would just rather be batman all the time.

    I thought they were a nice diversion, and she plays different enough from batman that it didn't feel like "Batman minus gadgets". My only problem with her was dudes with guns ripped her up and when she was caught she didn't have a lot of outs, it was just hope you can run away before a dude guns you down.

    What? Dude, just use her whip, it's seriously good. A batarang will stun a guy for a sec, but the whip automatically knocks the guy down for a ground takedown. Abuse that shit. Three guys with guns can be whipped to the ground in a matter of seconds.

    Plus, with that special whip trip? In-sane.
    Last segment:
    When you're fighting like 25 guys all at once, it trips them all if you place it right.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote:
    cloudeagle wrote:
    Huh, I guess I could buy this Robin as 18 or so. So what's Tim doing now in the comics now that Jerkface Robin has taken over and Dick's back to being Nightwing?

    He's doing his Red Robin thing / leading the Teen Titans. His new costume is kind of terribad: snip

    My god thats awful. Like birdman terrible.

    Yeah. My favorite Robin / Red Robin costume ever is the one Rocksteady used in this game. The hooded cape and buzzcut work surprisingly well.

    All I know if that guy stepped out of the shadows with his bowstaff? Yeah I'd stop doing whatever I was doing too.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Man I could just not get the special combat moves to pull off for the life of me. The double button presses tended to just get me shanked by some hobo with a knife. I am worst batman/catwoman.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote:
    Antihero robin? Starfire? Man I'm glad I don't really read comics. To me batman will always be burtons and TAS up to around season 4.

    Sadly enough I'm not kidding. He's Red Hood now, hanging around with Speedy or whatever the hell he calls himself now. Starfire now has no short-term memory and no personality beyond wanting to fuck everybody all the time, so much of the first issue of Red Hood and the Outlaws consists of random and awkward cheesecake shots of Starfire and Hood and Speedy joking about how much sex they're getting out of her.

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  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Preacher wrote:
    Preacher wrote:
    cloudeagle wrote:
    Huh, I guess I could buy this Robin as 18 or so. So what's Tim doing now in the comics now that Jerkface Robin has taken over and Dick's back to being Nightwing?

    He's doing his Red Robin thing / leading the Teen Titans. His new costume is kind of terribad: snip

    My god thats awful. Like birdman terrible.

    Yeah. My favorite Robin / Red Robin costume ever is the one Rocksteady used in this game. The hooded cape and buzzcut work surprisingly well.

    All I know if that guy stepped out of the shadows with his bowstaff? Yeah I'd stop doing whatever I was doing too.

    That scene where he
    beats the shit out of the Al Ghul ninjas that have you pinned down?
    So badass.

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
  • Delta AssaultDelta Assault Registered User regular
    Dimaggio is the only non-Hamill Joker voice I've heard which was okay for me. I honestly can't make an objective statement about it; to me, when I see something that's supposed to be Joker related I will always think Hamill's work. However, Dimaggio was similar enough to that that it didn't bother me at, but was unique enough that it wasn't just trying to be a copy of the old voice.

    I didn't find DiMaggio similar at all. The problem with DiMaggio for me was the very prominent gangster accent. Hamill and Ledger never had any real accent in their voice, they were just plain crazy. Their voices sounded crazy. With DiMaggio, the accent got in the way of the crazy for me.

    It was also a much deeper voice then I'm used to with the Joker. Joker's voice is supposed to be high and slightly effeminate. Specially if you're into Frank Miller's idea of the Joker.

  • Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    The weapon distroying takedown is the best thing ever. The game seems to auto target the most dangerous weapon too. I had a guy with a pipe next to me, and a guy with a gun further away and Batman went for the gun.

    Plus, if no one is holding a weapon you get a normal takedown. X+Y for life! The Batswarm/Whipstrike attacks seems like a waste though. I never use them.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote:
    Preacher wrote:
    Antihero robin? Starfire? Man I'm glad I don't really read comics. To me batman will always be burtons and TAS up to around season 4.

    Sadly enough I'm not kidding. He's Red Hood now, hanging around with Speedy or whatever the hell he calls himself now. Starfire now has no short-term memory and no personality beyond wanting to fuck everybody all the time, so much of the first issue of Red Hood and the Outlaws consists of random and awkward cheesecake shots of Starfire and Hood and Speedy joking about how much sex they're getting out of her.

    What is it with Batman and awkward horrible sex writing? I swear most of the cringeworthy comics dealing with sex that aren't written by Mark Millar have a batman connection.

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  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    batswarm is good is you're awkwardly positioned and surrounded by a lot of guys but i don't find myself using it much

    normal takedown keeps enemies off you long enough, while allowing them to shuffle around, that i can normally just evade right over a dude and get where i want to be

  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    Does anyone else find the premise of Batman going to a prison and then beating up the prisoners kind of weird? Like, ethically?

    To be fair, it isn't much of a prison so much as chaotic hellhole.

    Just wait until they trace its funding right back to Bruce Wayne.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Endgame spoiler.

    Strange is the worst killer ever. He has underscheduled food drops for the prisoners all the time, if he would have just simply poisoned the food and delivered more than usual the whole prison would be dead in less than an hour without destroying arkham city!

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    You should see the reboot of Catwoman. The first two pages are full of nothing but various shots framed by her tits; you don't see her face until the third page.

    Speaking of sucking at combat, is there some sort of trick to the Riddler challenge of doing an aerial takedown and then jumping onto another guy? I swear I'm doing what the tutorial is telling me to do (do the takedown, then hit the stick and the attack button to hit another guy) but I never get credit for it.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote:
    You should see the reboot of Catwoman. The first two pages are full of nothing but various shots framed by her tits; you don't see her face until the third page.

    Speaking of sucking at combat, is there some sort of trick to the Riddler challenge of doing an aerial takedown and then jumping onto another guy? I swear I'm doing what the tutorial is telling me to do (do the takedown, then hit the stick and the attack button to hit another guy) but I never get credit for it.

    Now are you doing the aerial takedown of b+A A (thats xbox controls). Its the move thats used on shield henchs but can be used on anyone, to get credit you have to leap off of one dude and land on another. Took me a few tries to get it down, and you need to do 3 of them.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote:
    cloudeagle wrote:
    You should see the reboot of Catwoman. The first two pages are full of nothing but various shots framed by her tits; you don't see her face until the third page.

    Speaking of sucking at combat, is there some sort of trick to the Riddler challenge of doing an aerial takedown and then jumping onto another guy? I swear I'm doing what the tutorial is telling me to do (do the takedown, then hit the stick and the attack button to hit another guy) but I never get credit for it.

    Now are you doing the aerial takedown of b+A A (thats xbox controls). Its the move thats used on shield henchs but can be used on anyone, to get credit you have to leap off of one dude and land on another. Took me a few tries to get it down, and you need to do 3 of them.

    That's exactly it. I'm not sure I'm leaping onto the second dude, it's more of a lunge. A regular combat lunge, now that I think about it. Do I need to hit the button for the second guy relatively quickly or more slowly?

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote:
    Preacher wrote:
    cloudeagle wrote:
    You should see the reboot of Catwoman. The first two pages are full of nothing but various shots framed by her tits; you don't see her face until the third page.

    Speaking of sucking at combat, is there some sort of trick to the Riddler challenge of doing an aerial takedown and then jumping onto another guy? I swear I'm doing what the tutorial is telling me to do (do the takedown, then hit the stick and the attack button to hit another guy) but I never get credit for it.

    Now are you doing the aerial takedown of b+A A (thats xbox controls). Its the move thats used on shield henchs but can be used on anyone, to get credit you have to leap off of one dude and land on another. Took me a few tries to get it down, and you need to do 3 of them.

    That's exactly it. I'm not sure I'm leaping onto the second dude, it's more of a lunge. A regular combat lunge, now that I think about it. Do I need to hit the button for the second guy relatively quickly or more slowly?

    Honestly, I have no idea! It seemed like luck. When done right you should be doing a double knee drop on the second dude like he was the original target of it. Harder to pull off in a big meele because you can be hit while doing the knee drop.

    It was one of the last challenges I ever completed.

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  • DeMoNDeMoN twitch.tv/toxic_cizzle Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote:
    You should see the reboot of Catwoman. The first two pages are full of nothing but various shots framed by her tits; you don't see her face until the third page.

    Speaking of sucking at combat, is there some sort of trick to the Riddler challenge of doing an aerial takedown and then jumping onto another guy? I swear I'm doing what the tutorial is telling me to do (do the takedown, then hit the stick and the attack button to hit another guy) but I never get credit for it.

    You want to try to hit the other guy while you are running up the first guy. What happens is you jump off the first guy without taking him down and land on another guy instead.

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  • JoolanderJoolander Registered User regular
    for big fights a good strategy is to get that free flow combo going (the red flashy one) and start knocking everyone on the ground with one hit, the you do the move where batman jumps in the air and throws a batarang at everyone on the ground, knocking them out

  • BuddiesBuddies Registered User regular
    Joolander wrote:
    for big fights a good strategy is to get that free flow combo going (the red flashy one) and start knocking everyone on the ground with one hit, the you do the move where batman jumps in the air and throws a batarang at everyone on the ground, knocking them out

    I enjoy picking out a guy with Armor, a Hammer/Sickle, or a Titan. Doing a Beat Down on them, countering anyone that attacks you and then continuing the beatdown. If there are guys with shields/stun rods then destroy those ASAP, and continue doing the beatdowns. This allows you to get a combo of like 40+ really easy. It's awesome when you get good at blade takedowns too, cause those are worth +100xcombo score. It makes getting +500 bonus points for using 5 gadgets seem really silly when you can just hit Square 23 times and Triangle 25 times for a move worth 5000 points.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I'm terrible at bladetakedowns, even when its like one on one they just mess me up.

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  • CenoCeno pizza time Registered User regular
    So is that encounter with Jack Ryder that was shown off in the demos in the game? I've never encountered it.

  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    I accidentally ran into Ryder in an alleyway. Nothing really momentous happened, other than a terrified journalist trying to get a story while trying not to get killed.

    At any rate, thanks for the advice on the challenge, looks like I was doing things too slow.

    I love love LOVE beatdowns. There's just something lovely about beating the shit out of a guy, pausing to casually backhand the dude walking up behind me, then resuming beating the shit out of the first guy. It just feels so Batman.

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  • agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    Joolander wrote:
    for big fights a good strategy is to get that free flow combo going (the red flashy one) and start knocking everyone on the ground with one hit, the you do the move where batman jumps in the air and throws a batarang at everyone on the ground, knocking them out

    But you get crap for points.

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  • JoolanderJoolander Registered User regular
    I mean for campaign

  • BloodsheedBloodsheed Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote:
    Preacher wrote:
    Antihero robin? Starfire? Man I'm glad I don't really read comics. To me batman will always be burtons and TAS up to around season 4.

    Sadly enough I'm not kidding. He's Red Hood now, hanging around with Speedy or whatever the hell he calls himself now. Starfire now has no short-term memory and no personality beyond wanting to fuck everybody all the time, so much of the first issue of Red Hood and the Outlaws consists of random and awkward cheesecake shots of Starfire and Hood and Speedy joking about how much sex they're getting out of her.

    Wrong Robin, Jason (2nd Robin) is Red Hood. Also, that shot of new 52 Tim/Red Robin is not his actual costume. That's just what he could throw on before jumping out the window of his apartment when bad guys bust in (the room blowing up in the background).
    Ceno wrote:
    So is that encounter with Jack Ryder that was shown off in the demos in the game? I've never encountered it.
    It's in there, but you have to find it before the courthouse, or at least that's when I did.

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote:
    I'm terrible at bladetakedowns, even when its like one on one they just mess me up.

    I can't get them to work at all. I've done one; when I do what the game tells me for the blade takedown, Batman does the movement for dodging the blade but gets sliced up anyway. Even just doing the dodge seems really sketchy.

    So I've stopped trying to dodge/counter them at all and just punch/combo takedown anybody with a blade the first chance I get. It's really not worth the hassle of not knowing why you're failing.

  • agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    Blade takedowns are pretty awesome, and not that hard to do. Release Y between each swing of the blade, and then hold it again. Remember to keep holding back though, or you'll stop dodging all together.

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  • WishpigWishpig Registered User regular
    Skull2185 wrote:
    ryven wrote:
    John DiMaggio is the only suitable replacement for Hammil

    I agree with you. Crazy people will not agree with you.

    Hearing Bender's Joker was the least offensive to my ears, and I am comfortable with the switch if that's what they have to do.

    I agree, DiMaggio does a damn fine Joker. He's no Hammil, but he does a good job and has his own take on it.

    He's pretty good, but his voice would not for THIS version of the Joker. DiMaggio's Joker seems less crazy. He talks slower, more menacingly, more serious (at least as serious as Joker can get) kinda like Jack Nicholson's Joker. His voice just wouldn't work with the extremely animated, bouncing off the walls Joker in the Arkham series. Hamil's joker is much more animated.

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  • Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    I've held Y, and released it between the third and fourth knife swipe, and countered it. So maybe you only have to release before the thug's knife combo finishes?

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Bloodsheed wrote:
    cloudeagle wrote:
    Preacher wrote:
    Antihero robin? Starfire? Man I'm glad I don't really read comics. To me batman will always be burtons and TAS up to around season 4.

    Sadly enough I'm not kidding. He's Red Hood now, hanging around with Speedy or whatever the hell he calls himself now. Starfire now has no short-term memory and no personality beyond wanting to fuck everybody all the time, so much of the first issue of Red Hood and the Outlaws consists of random and awkward cheesecake shots of Starfire and Hood and Speedy joking about how much sex they're getting out of her.

    Wrong Robin, Jason (2nd Robin) is Red Hood. Also, that shot of new 52 Tim/Red Robin is not his actual costume. That's just what he could throw on before jumping out the window of his apartment when bad guys bust in (the room blowing up in the background).

    No, I meant Jason, but figured "Antihero Robin" more or less summed him up.

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